I was able to get M2K three consecutive times with the extender grapple: one grab and two tech chases with it. I was able to avoid gimps by saving my DJ and using grapple cancels to get back since he was sniping my bombs. I only got to play one game with him and got 2 stocked, but I definitely made the robot analyze some new stuff, because, had I been someone with the competence of Darrel or Hugs, I might have been able to beat his Shiek with Samus.
In other words, one of the top players in the world didn't know how to handle some tricks that have been known for a decade simply because they're underused. Perhaps the extended FoD recovery isn't as difficult to figure out as some other things, but that doesn't mean that it's never a valid option. It also doesn't mean that a pro will be able to counter it since it's a rarely used tactic.
Lastly, K-Lit, you're just like me from 2008. I was a gigantic troll, attention *****, dismissive, and unproductive as heck. I made people dislike this community and I wasn't doing anything to coutneract it. You're the same way. You're an abrasive, rude jerk that only serves to boost his own unsubstantiated successes through the belittlement of others. At least have some humility, because it's borderline depressing how hard you try to act superior to everyone.
Hey Corigames, I have played M2K, and despite his title of robot, he is still human and isnt aware of every option on a character he rarely plays against, he is the best because he can just better player you, as he did to me (despite myself only getting 1 stocked...) I am dismissive because the vast majority of players on here are very new to the character, and others are just not as good as they claim to be, you call me an attention *****, and unproductive, but I would completely disagree. You were the one who came with guns blazing here with no shots fired in your direction, other than a ghost of your past of how ****ty of a person you used to be, that you saw in me. You used to be like that, hurray for you, but don't let what you once were cloud your judgement for what others are now. I am not the most patient person, but I certainly am productive, get to the point and get the job done, and wait ironically the same could be said for past you? you did control these boards for a while, despite being a very mediocre samus (<- self admitted), so really you need to rethink your insults, because comparing a past self to me, is kind of a compliment.
LOL, first of all, you calling somebody else a "condescending douche" is hilarious, anytime anyone says anything you are there to tell them they are wrong, how did this whole conversation get started? Oh right somebody posted their combo video and you called them bad. I would put money on it that Phillip Coast Phillip is a much better samus player than you, despite the fact that you got ***** by KDJ, Spawn, TOpe, M2k.
The reason samus is still playable is because of her bag of tricks, being able to mix up how she throws out attacks, recovers, uses her charged shot. Some tricks are more useful than others, but I like how when I list specific situations where you could use the recovery with your second jump you fail to acknowledge it.
That's okay I guess, like I said all your years of experience, you're probably the best samus here. I mean considering every other samus plays her wrong, you probably must be winning tournaments left and right. I can't wait to see MLG and EVO champion Klit.
As for Mars, I call you a condescending douche... because you were wrong... not because you were just condescending or a douche, both together and wrong at the same time warranted that insult in my book. Hmmm ***** by KDJ, Tope, Spawn, and M2K, I could get 3/4 of those that could confirm that I did not get *****, one of whom I team with, another who I trained with, and the last played at WQF at the last Mass Madness I went to where it was no where close to ****. From the combo video I saw of Phillip Coast Phillip, he has his basics down, and they are indeed good combos, but most of them were off poor techs, or lack of situational awareness from the other players, which as noted at the end of the video were not exceptional players (top 100 material), so I gave a critique of the video and he took strong offense to that. Putting money on 2 other players play is a very dumb idea sir, but if you care to every arrange it, I would be happy to oblige your request and play phillip. I would much rather play you though, or at least play you after phillip, because I know personally the only thing that gets a condescending douche to shut up, is for him to put his money where his mouth is. ^_^. To address your final points, its not samus's bag of tricks, its just the sheer number of options she has that can put her on the same footing as other viable characters, and I did acknowledge that situation, but I also said that there are other options in that situations which could be used, just because you like sticking your arm shoulder deep in her bag of tricks, doesnt mean they are necessary, or more useful than any alternative that could be used in that situation. Its not just tricks that make top samus's out there better than the rest, just look at HugS game, where the majority of his play, is just solid fundamentals with very little advanced missile or grapple "tricks". I know my place when speaking to a better player, but most of them don't even bother going on here, so when I shoot someone down, its not because I just don't respect them as a player, its because I genuinely put thought into what they say, consider if I have done it myself, if I have not, try it myself, and then speak, I just don't flip out just because someone doesn't agree with myself..........