Err... This is weird...

[Ref]

Ness' back air clanked with a Jump canceled Lucas Up smash on frame 1 once it started....(Meaning the jump was canceled on frame 2 in which Lucas' up smash began.)

Lucas charged it a bit and Ness remained paused there for 16 frames (The normal Hit lag)... while Lucas was still moving and proceeding through is charging and about to up smash frames.... After the hit lag, Lucas got hit on frame 17.

So... I'm guessing Lucas has up smash invincibility on frame 1? But that kind of defeats all purposes because he still got hit....

That or it has some weird box attached to that part of his body on frame one...

Or does someone else have some sort of explanation.. ?

 

[prOAPC]

i've been told that Lucas' usmash has invicibility frames (which is true), but i don't which frames
0:41 at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEuR0IZB9ic
MK uses a dash attack, but he eats an usmash in his face

 

[Irsic]

Oh ****, solid proof dude. I had some idea, but I thought it was just rumor.

 

[Chuee]

lol that would be a pretty funny way for lucas to die (the getting hit by the attack on frame 17 part).

 

[themrskills]

all of lucas's deaths are funny. jk jk

 

[Irsic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aVUm9tlcTo&feature=channel_page

Happens at the very end of this video. It happens at 6:39.

I previously had figured it because it looked like Lucas' hit box ducked down too low for DDD to hit, but invinvibility on frame 1 makes more sense.

 

[Tyr_03]

Easy way to be sure if a move has invincibility frames:

Get two players. Have one player charge Mario's FLUDD. Have the other player initiate the move you want to test. Have Mario shoot FLUDD at the opponent as they're doing the move. The player being hit with FLUDD will not be affected by it while in invincibility frames.

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

Easy way to be sure if a move has invincibility frames:

Get two players. Have one player charge Mario's FLUDD. Have the other player initiate the move you want to test. Have Mario shoot FLUDD at the opponent as they're doing the move. The player being hit with FLUDD will not be affected by it while in invincibility frames.

i like using falcon punch because it's falcon.

 

[Neon Ness]

i like using falcon punch because it's falcon.

Objection. Relevance.

 

[Chuee]

i like using falcon punch because it's falcon.

Falcn is just too epic.

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

ok so like i didn't test it, but i had it happen to me in a match today. i was playing and then the opponent was ZSS and tried to grab me and, i used my usmash and the grab went through me and i killed them i dont know if it was invincibilty frames or if i just ducked my head too low for the grab or if i was too close for the grab to connect. i'll have the vid up eventually.

eww terrible grammar.