Dthrow to rest. worth it?

[Kick]

I was fooling around on training mode trying new rest combos on fox and came across one that might be interesting.

This is for high percentage, I tried at 70%, but can go as low as 45%(perhaps more, but my fingers are too slow) Dthrow>WD>rest. basically dthrow sends them a little up and forward. WD under them and rest before they hit the ground.

There is also a harder version (again to 45%, perhaps lower) where you meet the fox at the peak of the throw and rest there.

I havent done this against an opponent actively trying to escape, so im not sure how DI and recovery time will play. could someone check this out?

 

[technomancer]

You can Uthrow to rest up until like 100% (I think), and if they're at high% like that, you can probably just Dthrow -> forward smash them. Probably better against opponents that DI, but I haven't looked into it, so I dunno.

 

[Kick]

uthrow to rest at 100%? i thought different. and i edited my original post.

 

[Raves]

theres a vid where magus shows that the uthrow rest can combo til like 100+

dthrow-> rest = very easy to di = hard to land the rest.

 

[Kick]

yeah i saw the magus vid, but that had no DI either. plus the Dthrow>rest is much faster allowing for less time to DI. Besides no one will use the 100+ uthrow rest in a tourney and get away with it. I was thinking Dthrow might be tourney worthy. so i guess my real question is to a pro. what is you opinion of Dthrow>midair/WD>rest

 

[Magus420]

the Dthrow>rest is much faster allowing for less time to DI.

U-throw is almost instantaneous. D-throw has you rolling ontop of them for roughly a year and a half. What d-throw are you using? o_O

 

[Kick]

i meant the time the fox is in the air.

 

[doyoung2win]

doesnt matter, gives them a hell lot more time to di. think of how fast jiggs upthrows vs downthrows, the reason upthrow is better because if done quickly enough then it wont give the opponent much of a chance to di and you can rest them.

 

[highandmightyjoe]

All rest combos are very dependant on the character. There are very few lead ins to rest that work on every character. I find down throw somewhat useful on FastFallers, but even on them it isn't incredibly reliable. But then it never hurts to try.

 

[Aero]

simply put, dthrow to rest on fox and falco doesn't work unless your opponent is clueless since DI happens at the throw, not when they are in the air. sure, they can sort of DI your uthrow after they have been in the air for awhile, but you should've landed rest by then.

against semifastfallers like shiek, it doesn't hurt to try, though. they might be clueless and decide not to DI. it's not like you can do much better with jiggly's throws.

 

[Magus420]

To elaborate, if they are able to move in the air they are also able to jump/attack/airdodge.

 

[Raves]

this is sorta of off in a tangent, but.. i heard somewhere you can dthrow>rest shiek @ like %40 and they can't di out(well, they can di, mayb just not far enough?) of it or something along those lines, is it true?

 

[ChozenOne]

No.. you can DI the Dthrow at any %, but it'll hit her without DI until around 40%...

 

[holywhack]

this also works on link

 

[ChozenOne]

If a Cfalcon isn't expecting it, you can Dthrow, and then rest them if they tech into you...

 

[wuthefwasthat]

for all the rest combos people have - resting out of techs and rolls is pretty underrated

and crouching rests sorta too - especially against certain chars/attacks