Down Smash Technique

[MarthZ]

If your enemy reads the run cancel they have quite a bit of time to grab you so to stop this you can run up to them wave dash back (baiting them if they didn't get baited you could dash dance nair) and then down smash The down smash is good because if it misses and they try to pivot grab you the second hit gets you also it makes them fly up and if you're by the ledge you can spike them and get a stock I'd suggest using this at like idk 60%

 

[Nicholas1024]

For the record, any plan that relies on the enemy running into the second hit of down smash is a bad plan.

 

[MarthZ]

For the record, any plan that relies on the enemy running into the second hit of down smash is a bad plan.

but they won't read it opposed to the down tilt

 

[tonic]

why would they ever pivot grab you from that position? Also, Dsmash -> dair should never combo, except maybe on spacies at super niche percents

 

[MarthZ]

why would they ever pivot grab you from that position? Also, Dsmash -> dair should never combo, except maybe on spacies at super niche percents

yeah at 50 or 60% it sends them up so you could jump over them and D air I never said it had to combo

 

[PiZyy]

The down smash is good because if it misses and they try to pivot grab you the second hit gets you also it makes them fly up and if you're by the ledge you can spike them and get a stock I'd suggest using this at like idk 60%

yeah at 50 or 60% it sends them up so you could jump over them and D air I never said it had to combo

It looks like you suggested it combo'd into eachother. Make sure you are more clear

 

[AirFair]

Yeah, I would not try to do that. Downsmash is a very situational move imo. I think it might be good for covering platform techs when you are on the same platform, but honestly, I would stay away from it.

Thoughts?

 

[MarthZ]

well thats why I made this because people wont expect the move but they will most likely think you're going to use a down tilt

 

[Flippy Flippersen]

Your goal isn't to be random. Your goal is to get your opponent killed. Sure most opponents won't expect you to dsmash. But is dsmash faster or bigger than dtilt? Not mentionably so at least. As long as your opponent expects dtilt he also covers dsmash. The only difference being that he gets a better reward if you miss/get shielded don't hit a sweetspot etc. and you get less reward for hitting. Dsmash is afaik best used as a situational killmove against people that amsahtech your fsmashes too much. (And even then the better answer is combo them in a way that doesn't allow them to amsahtech your fsmash)

 

[Armant Natu]

Best tip I ever got for using down smash. Don't. Just don't.

 

[NightRaid|tAmA?]

D-smash has it's uses. In neutral it has little to none ( I would say none ) .