Speedy Gonzales
Smash Apprentice
It doesn't look like it.
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Did they modify the graphics at all in the Melee stages?
- Thread starter Speedy Gonzales
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blayde_axel
Smash Master
That was the point. >.>
M.K
Level 55
Then they would be new stages...seriously.
::FalcoFTW::
Smash Apprentice
Probably not, but that adds to the retro/nostalgia factor of them, so I'd have it no other way.
limitbreak
Smash Ace
No. They didn't want to.
Cereal Rabbit
Smash Lord
Of course they didn't modify it. It's as of modifying Dream Land 64/DK 64 stages in Melee. Barely any modifications except for probably ceiling height or distance from stage and "walls of death."
Mario & Sonic Guy
Old rivalries live on!
They wouldn't be called past stages if the stages were modified.
Captain Anthony
Smash Apprentice
I must be mistaken then, I should get another look at Melee... They looked pretty new to me.
Captain Anthony
Smash Apprentice
Yeah... guys, I've been looking, they've definitely been updated. The textures are much more intricate, they're the same design and lay out of course, but they've most certainly gotten a coat of Brawl paint.
Croco
Smash Lord
Well what I am seeing is that the textures are more clear and vibrant.
Everything is more crisp and visible..
Nothing was really added.. or upgraded.
It's probably just the new hardware/updated engine the maps are being displayed on.
Pokemon Stadium was updated.
Battlefield was updated.
We might get an updated..
Poke Floats
Princess Peach's Castle
Mute City
Kongo Jungle
Dream Land or Green Greens
Final Destination
etc. etc. etc.
Everything is more crisp and visible..
Nothing was really added.. or upgraded.
It's probably just the new hardware/updated engine the maps are being displayed on.
I don't want to defend something I am not sure of.. but..
Pokemon Stadium was updated.
Battlefield was updated.
We might get an updated..
Poke Floats
Princess Peach's Castle
Mute City
Kongo Jungle
Dream Land or Green Greens
Final Destination
etc. etc. etc.
coolfufuman
Smash Apprentice
erm
the rainbow ride boat looks a little different, and i dont remember the acid being green in the previous brinstar- or that car in onett
the rainbow ride boat looks a little different, and i dont remember the acid being green in the previous brinstar- or that car in onett
Mexican Brawler
Smash Cadet
the only graphic update that I see is on the caharacter that are fighting on the stages, and why Rainbow Cruise... is like Pokefloats or the IC stage, i hope that this Mario stage dont take the place of a Bowser Casttle
Strongside
Smash Apprentice
I actually think there was 0 change. In other words, its developers being kinda lazy...
tsk tsk. Atleast we got 5 new stages.
*thumbs up*
tsk tsk. Atleast we got 5 new stages.
*thumbs up*
blayde_axel
Smash Master
They still had to make this stage from scratch, you know? lol.
2nd Stamp
Smash Ace
That's true. The only thing they reused was colors textures and elements. They "remade"everything. This is also stated in Melee Stages: Part 1
Strongside
Smash Apprentice
Actually... I did not. My mistake.
blayde_axel
Smash Master
Right. So things will be different by a tiny bit. Whatever would be modified would have to be necessary (like somewhere for Pokemon Trainer to stand, for example.).
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
no they arent different, atleast anything beyond a lil messup from trying to recreate it. thats why theyr past stages. corneria from melee got a graphical upgrade from its 64 counterpart which is why its a new stage, not a past stage. these melee stages in brawl are past stages.
Monshou_no_Nazo
Smash Journeyman
I think the resolution is a bit higher, so at the very least the stages will look sharper and the textures smoother.
The Lasers are the exact same thing, the effect of the explosions and hits have changed, and they are defeneatly not part of a stage, so it's natural that the effects when you are hit by a laser are different.they changed them
look at the lasers
Maybe you were just being sarcastic, if it's that way then it doesn't care, sarcasm on internet fails, much people don't realize that, including me...
Lunaretic
Smash Apprentice
old stages with updtaed graphics are still old stages.. I would've though they would've used the increased texture size/memory to update the piss bad acid texture on the metroid level at least though... : /
Edit: Oh, and from a technical perspective, no, they don't have to re-make the stages from scratch actually. As long as the base systems are the same, most likely they can just import old maps in as long as they still have the relevant files, which I'm sure they do.
An example is importing Half-Life 1 maps into the Half-Life 2 engine, the engine renders them slightly differently and interacts with some of the entities differently due to the added physics system, but the map itself is the same map/data.
Edit: Oh, and from a technical perspective, no, they don't have to re-make the stages from scratch actually. As long as the base systems are the same, most likely they can just import old maps in as long as they still have the relevant files, which I'm sure they do.
An example is importing Half-Life 1 maps into the Half-Life 2 engine, the engine renders them slightly differently and interacts with some of the entities differently due to the added physics system, but the map itself is the same map/data.
kingjoekur
Smash Apprentice
i wish they would give ssb stages
Shiny Pidgey
Smash Cadet
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I'm pretty sure they used the same textures, so while they did technically have to rebuild the stages (because, Lunaretic, it's not the same engine being used AFAIK), they probably won't look any different. The same thing applies to the "past stages" in Melee. The ones that were in the first game, but were graphically improved, such as Corneria, were not considered "past stages".
InvincibleAgent
Smash Lord
They can. But they didn't.
FoulPlay
Smash Lord
Thats the ONLY car I remember from that horrible level.
Do you know how weird that would be?
Donkey Kong 64 and Kirby Dream Land 64 coming back? Although I admit Kirby Dream Land 64 was by FAR one of the best stages in Melee, along with Donkey Kong as you can see by my Location, (It was a joke by another competitve Smasher, don't be like "LULZ NUBNUBNUB" :/) But, I personally wish he'd Buff the graphics for the N64 stages so I can get my DL64 back. :/
Fonz
Smash Ace
The black car is the one that spikes, it's definitely not new.
AnimalCrosser
Smash Cadet
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Rainbow Ride: The boat looks shinier.
Brinstar: No change.
Onett: That van was always there. It just doesn't say Runaway 5 on the side like it did in the Melee version.
'Graphically improved' as in 'change of location'?
reu_1303
Smash Apprentice
Yeah it looks like the changed them a little bit, but not by much. I'm kinda glad that they did not change them.
Norm
Smash Lord
it seems like the textures and etc are more well done but outside that nope same ol' same ol'.
TheKruskinator
Smash Apprentice
And how exactly did you come across this information?
blayde_axel
Smash Master
Because... they're making the game?
My bad. Didn't read what post you got that from.
Anyway, if they did import, then there wouldn't be any changes at all. But he's mentioned that they've been changed. In fact, I think he even says they had to remake it, in a sense.
But hey, if they could have, they would have.
Serebii
Serebii Owner
They def. look more vibrant
Ebonyks
Smash Apprentice
There were some subtle changes, a few textures are different, and the color warmth has been changed slightly. It requires one hell of a trained eye to notice though
ff7freddy
Smash Cadet
I don't understand why people ask these kinds of questions. Why do you ask us if we haven't played the **** game besides the demo.....