DC vs Marvel | Victory!

[~ Gheb ~]

Poor Ryu lmao.

Either KWK is scum or somebody on his wagon is imo. Hard to decide for me. KWKs play is all sorts of underwhelming but at the same time it's way too easy to push for his lynch right now. Since it seems like his role is more or less confirmed to be true, it's a question of whether it's more likely a town role or a scum role. I'm currently leaning towards the former.

Vote Gorf

Non-voters + Beat - Ryu can die too.

 

[Chaco]

Poor Ryu lmao.

Either KWK is scum or somebody on his wagon is imo. Hard to decide for me. KWKs play is all sorts of underwhelming but at the same time it's way too easy to push for his lynch right now. Since it seems like his role is more or less confirmed to be true, it's a question of whether it's more likely a town role or a scum role. I'm currently leaning towards the former.

Vote Gorf

Non-voters + Beat - Ryu can die too.

It just seems waaay to strong to be a town role, and like I said, I truly wonder if it is even his role. You tell me the likelihood of TWO people watching one person in a 16-man game.

And for his other claims, he could just throw out any three names of people who were not online during the Ranmaru kill, and say he was tracing them. If BSL publicly outed all of his info to his scum mates, there is no stopping a fake claim off the same data, albeit tweaking it, and making your role look too good to lynch. Then come up with some BS about how he has two other people helping him with his role, WELL let's see. He seems to know who they are, but they don't know who he is? C'mon now. There's holes all in this. Especially after Gorf confirms visiting his target, and THEN KWK. It's very possible BSL just had a track down on gorf as well and shared that he visited the target intended, or whoever the target was, and it showed Gorf visiting. (Idr who it was right now...haven't looked back. Laundry?) Anyways, I see too many possible patched up fixes to make this claim. All info comes from D1 practically. And after outing himself he conveniently gets roleblocked so no new info. It's VERY possible that a roleblocker does exist, but the convenience of it is just too much for me to not have the trigger pulled on KWK.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Didn't one of them claim tracker, and the other one watcher? They're very similar roles, but is there a distinction that needs to be made? I would assume a Tracker follows their target to see who they visit, while a Watcher just watches that one person, and only sees people who visit them.

I guess I'm unclear if they actually claimed the same thing or not, or how either of their roles actually functions. I'm pretty sure one of them said "watcher" and the other said "tracker", but I think they've both claimed that the way their roles function is identical to each other.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Although I guess BSL was actually a "bug planter" or wutever, so the difference may have just been a mistake on his part.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

These are some decent counter-points. At first I thought that KWK'ss role would be quite OP in the hands of scum though hence me thinking his claim makes him likely town.

Now that BSL is dead KWK shouldn't be able to come up with fake results though, right?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Lol



Looks like you can drop the self-pity for the time being. What's your take on these events surrounding you?

I don't even know anymore, the light seems way more town than the punch now that I know it is a thing, it removed the one less vote thing only for two days thing.

But the punch still hit BSL unprovoked so I don't think his mates did it.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

Sorry Marshmellowmen, I forgot about that rule.

Can someone explain what happened to ryu? I don't get it.

Jexs, you'll have to explain your town read on scary cause I'm just not seeing it.

Chaco, you're forgetting the thing with rake. And with your theory, that would require bsl watching myself and laundry when gorf visited us. I'm not saying it's impossible, I just want you to think everything through thoroughly before trying to lynch us.

Beat, that means that bsl would be watching both his scummates

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

Oh hey, ninja'd

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

Ebwop: beat, that means bsl would be watching both his scummates according to your theory.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

These are some decent counter-points. At first I thought that KWK'ss role would be quite OP in the hands of scum though hence me thinking his claim makes him likely town.

Now that BSL is dead KWK shouldn't be able to come up with fake results though, right?

he sure is rb'd though so unless we find the rb thatll never happen

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Beat, that means that bsl would be watching both his scummates

... so what?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

he sure is rb'd though so unless we find the rb thatll never happen

Hmmm, I forgot about that after skimming through the last pages. That's awfully convenient and makes me consider just using Occam's and lynch KWK ...

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ah, didn't see it.

Murderbush has been ok but I would like to see some more recent thoughts from him. I wanna see how his thoughts will change since one of his bigger scum reads in Chaco is a confirmed townie. Also wanna see if he's going to continue on Gorf when he returns since that's been his primary push.

Bardull is cool as well. Solid town read I would say.



Didn't see this lol. KWK is on the rise to town lean but still remaining skeptical. I don't really have a concrete answer for ya.

Along with keeping an eye in KWK, looking at Rake. Haven't really been high on him all game and his wasting his posts is kinda bothersome. Also wondering about the recent interaction between joker and bardull wrt to joker. Gonna check that out again.

This isn't gonna fly.

Make a firm stance not half of one.

 

[JeXs]

I already explained my read on scary. It was his jump from you to bsl which put bsl at L-1. If you're town and Scary is scum, why would he put his scum mate at L-1 when he could just as easily stayed on you? Especially when you were a completely valid lynch choice at the time. I don't see why scum would do that.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

... so what?

Well we don't even know if bsl could watch more than one person, he never claimed that. But that doesn't mean he couldn't.

I'm just putting out my thoughts in case there are some aspects people haven't considered.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

I already explained my read on scary. It was his jump from you to bsl which put bsl at L-1. If you're town and Scary is scum, why would he put his scum mate at L-1 when he could just as easily stayed on you? Especially when you were a completely valid lynch choice at the time. I don't see why scum would do that.

Oh ya, forgot about that. Good point. I retract my scum read on scary.

 

[JeXs]

Well we don't even know if bsl could watch more than one person, he never claimed that. But that doesn't mean he couldn't.

I'm just putting out my thoughts in case there are some aspects people haven't considered.

Bsl said that he could only watch 1 target per day and it's locked. Don't know if he's lying or not though.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

IMO don't delve too deep into what BSL claimed.

 

[Chaco]

IMO don't delve too deep into what BSL claimed.

I'm just saying a BUG PLANTER, fits multiple tracks/watches whatever perfectly. It IS a theory though., but I think we'll get solid information out of a KWK lynch.

And the way he's reacting to the pressure on him is like he's trying not to show a reaction much. IDK, anyone else feeling that vibe. Most people get frustrated when town keeps applying the same pressure. Just a feeling.

 

[Marshmellowman]

"Why...that's a fantastic idea Mister Jay!"​

WATT, Harley Quinn, Town Sidekick, has been killed!

a beam of light engulfs red ruy. he is once again lynched at a majority for d2 n d3!

Kreative Whiz Kids (5): Rake, Gorf, Chaco, Joker, Beat!
Gorf (4): Murderbush, Laundry, JeXs, Gheb
Rake (1): KWK

Not Voting (3): Scary, Bardull, Red Ryu

Deadline is 9/6 11:59:59 PM. With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

[collapse=voting log]
1. #HBC | Gorf => KWK > Bardull > Chaco > KWK > Ruy > BSL
3. Beat! => Chaco > Chaco > unvote > KWK
4. #HBC | Laundry => Murderbush > Ruy
5. Chaco => Gheb > Gorf > KWK > KWK
6. Gheb_01 => KWK > Gorf
7. Kreative Whiz Kids (Potassium/Sokr) => Joker > unvote > BSL > Rake > unvote > Red Ryu > Rake
8. #HBC | BarDeezy => Evil Eye > Gorf > Joker > Gorf > unvote
9. mUrDeRbUsH (Raziek/#HBC | Ryker) => Chaco > Gorf > Ruy > Gorf > BSL > Gorf
10. JeXs => Rake > BSL > KWK
11. Wots All This Then? (JDietz43/Orboknown) => Murderbush > Scary > Murderbush > unvote > KWK > unvote > KWK
12. #HBC | Rake. => JeXs > KWK > KWK
13. #HBC | Joker => KWK > KWK
14. #HBC | Red Ryu => Gorf > Chaco > unvote > Ranmaru > unvote
15. #HBC | Scary => KWK > BSL[/collapse]

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Well the idea those shots were a vig is now out the window.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i guess that ALSO means bad guys could be town.

and for the record if ran's flavor was a villain well screw you i dont know who nr trippy face trenchcoat is

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Not sure what you're talking about Ryu. We had two kills yesterDay and I'm sure one of them was the factional kill of the mafia. Dunno about the other kill but I don't see how a Vig is out of the window at all.

 

[Chaco]

i guess that ALSO means bad guys could be town.

and for the record if ran's flavor was a villain well screw you i dont know who nr trippy face trenchcoat is

Roarshach, he wasn't a villain. You NEED to watch the movie with Rorshach, it's ****in good.

And mother****, there goes the idea of shield voting Wot. Back on me I guess.

but now that he's dead, I'm not afraid to reveal this. When I targetted people with my town confirmation, I targeted people who were pushing me to see if they would continue or not after I was confirmed to them. D1 it was Ran, and D2 was MB. However, WATT was on MB, and my confirmation was sent to him. That's why we were having the discussions, we were and why he wanted BP. It would've been solid as ****. We needed to vote him sooner...but oh well...

Ryu and Gheb have both been active during his death. Noted. BUT, we'll see who else I can see online.

 

[Chaco]

EBWOP: Oops and Gorf.

now to cross reference the last lists...

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Not sure what you're talking about Ryu. We had two kills yesterDay and I'm sure one of them was the factional kill of the mafia. Dunno about the other kill but I don't see how a Vig is out of the window at all.

uhh... no we didnt yesterDay? ran and who else?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

also chaco if youre gonna try n deduce the nk by who was in thread youll need to include every person whos posted from the nk to the mod's last post here. kwk claimed he got his rb immediately, and no scum would have any reason to rb em prior. so that has more merit to scrutinize.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Not sure what you're talking about Ryu. We had two kills yesterDay and I'm sure one of them was the factional kill of the mafia. Dunno about the other kill but I don't see how a Vig is out of the window at all.

It was just Ran.

If they were mafia kills, Ran's death is really bizarre.

 

[Marshmellowman]

MOD NOTE

any votes to give the shield to WATTve been reset! so if yu were votin him b4 it now counts as yu not voting any1

SWAG!!

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

What does a sidekick do usually?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

It was just Ran.

If they were mafia kills, Ran's death is really bizarre.

Wouldn't it be similarly bizarre for a townie to kill WATT though?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

What does a sidekick do usually?

Afaik, sidekick targets player X to draw all NAs used on him that Night towards himself.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Wouldn't it be similarly bizarre for a townie to kill WATT though?

Even if some was seriously considering WaTT as a shot, why him over me or others?

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Wouldn't it be similarly bizarre for a townie to kill WATT though?

Are you thinking an Indy survivor or something along those lines?

 

[Chaco]

Even if some was seriously considering WaTT as a shot, why him over me or others?

dude is this even a question, the conversation me and him had obviously. His power plus BP would be OP as hell.

 

[Chaco]

also chaco if youre gonna try n deduce the nk by who was in thread youll need to include every person whos posted from the nk to the mod's last post here. kwk claimed he got his rb immediately, and no scum would have any reason to rb em prior. so that has more merit to scrutinize.

Yeah, I was gonna look back at it, but I got busy. I'll look at it in a bit. While I want the list, I want it more so to reflect reads off of.

 

[Chaco]

Shield needs to be distributed, and soon. Had we organized faster before, we could've prevented WATT's death. It appears that the popular consensus is to SV (Shield vote) me or JeXs. I am perfectly FINE with receiving shield. If the need arises to move it later, I will be more than happy to move it instantaneously.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

Thanks Gheb

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Even if some was seriously considering WaTT as a shot, why him over me or others?

Why the **** would anybody kill you?!?

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

Chaco, I don't think Gorf is the killer based off of my results. Who are the rest of your possibilities?