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CPU Top Tier

floofy

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you guys are also forgetting that a lot of the computers suicides a lot, or are stupid are recorvery

they suicide a lot with marth, roy, most of the marios, even with peach.

Ganon is the best because he doesnt suicide much, and hes also a very good fighter.
I also like link because he does annoying grabs, and doesnt suicide much
 

Da Black Rabbit

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Computer Ganondorf is actually good for some reason.

Maybe cuz I play as Link the games feels they have to make my rival smarter then other CPU characters.

Peach usually puts in work and on certain levels Bowser and Falco are good in the hands in the computer, too. Final Destination being on of those certain levels.
 

Psychoace

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you guys are also forgetting that a lot of the computers suicides a lot, or are stupid are recorvery

they suicide a lot with marth, roy, most of the marios, even with peach.

Ganon is the best because he doesnt suicide much, and hes also a very good fighter.
I also like link because he does annoying grabs, and doesnt suicide much
Lol. Walk over to the ledge, grab it continually ledgehop do it once in the air and most of the time the ganon will try to up b you and fall to his death.
 

Dragmire

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my disk must be ****ed up then I got
1. ganon
2. bowser WTF
3. fox WTF
4. ness What the hell

I don't know if I have a weird disk or something but I've tried this a few times and this is usually how it turns about
 

2007

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let's see... I'll go with a 1-10 scale, 1 being crap and 10 rocking.
actual suckage of the character anyways might have some impact.
Dr. Mario-6
Mario-3 (always tries to meteor and fails)
Luigi-1 (never uses up+B)
Peach-6
Bowser-5
DK-4
Link-9
Y Link-8 (sure YL isn't that great but the comp knows how to play on my game)
Ganondorf-10
Zelda-3
Sheik-8
Samus-10
C. Falcon-7
Ness-2 (on DK river stage (not the raft): 0)
Yoshi-2 (he sucks anyways)
Kirby-1 (on Temple: -5)
Fox-4(he's a suicidal idiot)
Falco-7 (not to hard over here)
Pikachu-9 (see bottom)
Pichu-4
Mewtwo-6(for botom tier he plays pretty well)
Jigglypuff-3
Marth-? (varies greatly with stage. see bottom)
Roy-2 (comp. Roy does NOTHING!! enn-you-tee... well, you know, nothing.)
G&W-4
ICs-5

NOTES:
Falco: he's just not too hard. he plays pretty well though
Roy: for some reason, comp Roy can't seem to pull off the simplest KO tactics. it's been so long since I remember getting KO'd even once with him
Marth: This is one of the intersting ones.if he's on a stage where edgeguarding is vital, then he plays at about a 7 or 8, but without edgeguarding, Marth (even in the real world) Marth is crap. I'd say a 3 at best, which means the average is around 1 or 2.
Pikachu: maybe it's because I main Pika, but I can't seem to counter lvl 9 Pika too well. it might be just me though.

So, that in mind, let's organize it into 5 tiers!

TOP TIER: (10-9)
Ganondorf (10)
Samus (10)
Pikachu (9)
Link (9)

HIGH TIER: (8-7)
Sheik(8)
YL (8)
C. Falcon (7)
Falco (7)

MID TIER: (6-5)
Dr. Mario (6)
Peach (6)
Mewtwo (6)
Bowser (5)
ICs(5)

LOW TIER: (4-3)
Fox (4)
DK (4)
Pichu (4)
G&W (4)
Mario (3)
Jigglypuff (3)
Zelda (3)

CRAP TIER: (2-1)
Ness (2)
Yoshi (2)
Roy (2)
Kirby (1)
Luigi (1)

Now, before everyone gets after me for excluding Marth from the tier list, read this post more carefully and you'll know why he's gone. And for those of who who are still not happy, you must recover!

=2007=
 

Johnknight1

Upward and Forward, Positive and Persistent
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-Ganondorf: Since cpus just run into attacks and he spams his B moves, he wins.

-Link: Spams the throw bomb grab down tilt combo! :laugh:

-Falco: IMMA CHARGIN MA LAZOR! Seriously though, he sits there and does his nB all day long, lol!

-Roy: He charges his nB, and CPUs run into it like the f***ing scrubs they are. NUFF' SAID!

and LOL @ n00bs who think "their cpus" are unbeatable.
 

drengist

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Sometimes I have hard time beating cpu Fox with my Fox. When I switch to Samus beating AI is ridiculously easy. The best - or most annoying - cpu character in general is Mario. AI Mario spams his throw like a madman if you let him come close.
 

de_gLory^

Smash Cadet
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Ganondorf ftw!
his jab is anoying, he punishes every of ur mistakes...
up b, really annoying....
and his **** hylian kick, that sucks :D
how ever, i 2 stock 2 of them in team against me :cool:
 

Patinator

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I find Ganondorf extremely annoying... Unless he's a Level One. (lolzzzz)

Ganondorf
Luigi
Peach
Link/Young Link
Samus
Dr. Mario
Mario
Marth

From there... All computers get pwned by the above. And even then, the top three pwn all...
 

finalark

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It's odd... one day it will be C.F, the next Falco. It seems almost random on my disk.

But they all share one common weakness: they seem to taunt right after getting KO for no reason at all.
 

Crooked Crow

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I teamed up with Level 9 Ganon a few days ago on a whim against 2 other people

and wooooooooooooowww

He's a lot more amazing than I thought
 

Psychoace

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I don't know about anyone elses mario but at mid percents he doesn't recover from his fair of the stage but a like zero to 40 he will make it back with up b.
 

eddiethe4th

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1: Luigi
2: Bowser
3:pikachu
4: Zelda
5:Link

However I have done this before and have had Ganondorf, Samus and Link in first place.
 

peach-man

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at first, I had a hard time beating Fox cuz his speed, but now he's sooooo easy, one on one, I get 30 points ahead of him in 10 minutes lolzz (yes, I play time battles, not stock battles)
but he still KO's me most of the time when he meteors me with his down throw edge guard XD

now luigi is the most annoying one. Because of his floatiness, he's like Peach's kryptonite! XD and he always uses nair, wich is fast and breaks through a lot of peach's attacks... god he's so annoying when he uses nair.
I hope it's nerfed in brawl...lolzzz
 

simplicityho

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^ lollzzz and it's so easy like rite yeah uh huh liek omg yeah liek so cool rite.

Hey, I made a coherent sentence.
 

Eternal Yoshi

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I play a LOT of All-Star mode so my CPU's play very differently and moderately better than they have before.
Ganondorf still dominates everyone, including Fox.
Marth didn't even take one stock from Ganondorf.
Pikachu and Samus came the closest to beating him, taking him down to one stock.
Luigi is better than before but more self-destructive. He defeated Mewtwo and Peach.
Peach seems to be a wiz at comboing foes and destroyed Roy, but lost to Luigi.
Dr. Mario made it quite far, defeating Falco and Luigi before being pwned by Ganondorf.
Link defeated Yoshi and Mario and lost to Samus.
In other words. the best 7 CPU in my game are:
#1 Ganondorf
#2 Dr. Mario
#3 Peach
#4 Luigi
#5 Samus
#6 Pikachu
#7 Link
Note: My CPU Bowser can spam the Bowser Bomb cancel, but didn't fare well against Marth.
There were ocassions where my CPU Ganondorf wavedashes in All-Star mode and once, Sheik was dash dancing and short hopping.
 

Eternal Yoshi

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On my game it seems so, but it's a VERY slow progress. There are extremely rare ocassions where Peach will pull out 3 Bob-ombs in a row, and Samus will use the SWD to recover. Seriously.
 

Drack

Smash Apprentice
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The discs are the same, but there may be adaptive AI saved on the memory card.

Anyone able to confirm this?
 

Eternal Yoshi

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I don't the materials to make a video but there is a notable difference in the AI for me when the memory card is in and when I take it out.
 
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