Correct description of a Zero to Death?

[saladtossfalcon]

I've heard mixed opinions. I've always been told that a Zero to Death is a combo that brings your opponent from 0% to death. However, at a local I was at a while ago, my opponent took off a stock right after he had spawned after I had taken off one of his stocks. He pauses and pops off, saying "Get zero to death'd, fraud" Totally confused, I told him that it wasn't a zero to death. After I'd said this, a few people told me that it was.

So which one is it? Is it a combo that brings someone from 0 to death or is it essentially killing someone while you're at 0%?

 

[-ACE-]

LOL. Your "friends"....

If someone is at 150% and you KO them, it's not a 0-death.

0-death means they were at 0% and you combo'd them without being hit until they lose their stock.

You are correct, the other guy is crazy.

 

[Masondeanm]

LOL. Your "friends"....

If someone is at 150% and you KO them, it's not a 0-death.

0-death means they were at 0% and you combo'd them without being hit until they lose their stock.

You are correct, the other guy is crazy.

The only thing I have to add to this is that "combo" isn't really well defined. So I would just say it's when you take someone from 0% to death without getting hit yourself.

 

[-ACE-]

It's still a combo even if it isn't all in stun. That's why I added the part about not being hit.

Ex: there are lots of throw setups that lead into aerial, but for some the stun technically ends before they're hit by a frame or two. It doesn't mean that throw doesn't combo into the aerial at that percent.

I will say though, if neutral is reset and no one gets hit for like 10 seconds, it's not really a 0-death even though you were untouched.

 

[Masondeanm]

It's still a combo even if it isn't all in stun.

I'm not saying it's not, I'm just saying what is and isn't a combo isn't well defined, so it's not the best thing to use when defining something.

I will say though, if neutral is reset and no one gets hit for like 10 seconds, it's not really a 0-death even though you were untouched.

Yeah this is a grey area for me, I don't really know what to think.

 

[-ACE-]

It's a matter of whether they get away from your pressure or not imo.

 

[saladtossfalcon]

LOL. Your "friends"....

If someone is at 150% and you KO them, it's not a 0-death.

0-death means they were at 0% and you combo'd them without being hit until they lose their stock.

You are correct, the other guy is crazy.

The only thing I have to add to this is that "combo" isn't really well defined. So I would just say it's when you take someone from 0% to death without getting hit yourself.

Yes, exactly what I thought . Thank you both

 

[Jenna Zant]

The only thing I have to add to this is that "combo" isn't really well defined. So I would just say it's when you take someone from 0% to death without getting hit yourself.

It doesn't matter if they can escape or not, what matters is if they actually do escape or not.

 

[Masondeanm]

It doesn't matter if they can escape or not, what matters is if they actually do escape or not.

Again, what does "escape" actually mean? If you want a rigorous definition where there can be no argument about what is and isn't considered a 0 to death, then you can't use words like these (unless you define them too).

 

[-ACE-]

Again, what does "escape" actually mean? If you want a rigorous definition where there can be no argument about what is and isn't considered a 0 to death, then you can't use words like these (unless you define them too).

Damn, you're really pushing for something trivial here, lol. The only solution must be pi, so once your opponent regains his footing onstage, if 3.14159265389 seconds go by without you hitting them, it's no longer a 0-death.

Now that that's over, you can go terrorize someone else over the exact definition of a "Johnny stock"

 

[Jenna Zant]

Again, what does "escape" actually mean? If you want a rigorous definition where there can be no argument about what is and isn't considered a 0 to death, then you can't use words like these (unless you define them too).

You know what I mean by escape. You're grasping at straws.

 

[AlexIsStarving]

Personally, i refer to a zero to death combo as a combo that leads to death with no resets in neutral.

I refer to a zero to death as basically the same thing but with resets.

It is kinda trivial, but i can see how one can get caught up in it.

 

[Masondeanm]

You know what I mean by escape. You're grasping at straws.

I'm not graspig at straws, I'm merely saying if you want a definition that is so clear cut that you can look at footage and say yes or no and have there be nothing up to individual interpretation, you can't use words like that.