COMPETITIVE Brawl+: Code Agenda

[Blank Mauser]

I honestly hope MAD isn't dropped. I like wavelanding on platforms and Pikachu's QAC into wavedash is awesome srsly.

Only thing it really needs is more lag after free fall and of course it takes massive lines. I still somehow manage to fit it into my codeset though.

 

[kupo15]

One thing that needs to be added to the triple jump which I just pmed is the lag after landing from a "yes!". Also happens with ganon.

@kupo:
Yeah, the german ones are my favorite, which isn't so surprising since in general I prefer "german music" or whatever (<3 the three B's), although Vivaldi has a special place in my heart. Not that I have any disdain for other country's music, but man do I love Brahms, haha.

Love Brahms. Saw the phily orch play Brahms 4 <3

I honestly hope MAD isn't dropped. I like wavelanding on platforms and Pikachu's QAC into wavedash is awesome srsly.

Only thing it really needs is more lag after free fall and of course it takes massive lines. I still somehow manage to fit it into my codeset though.

You have to be missing a crucial code.

 

[Alopex]

All is clear now, Plasma. Thanks! Time to git crackin'!

Expect new results in 7.2 soon.

Then we'll get everyone to start saving up those 2 lines by using the 7.2 code.

 

[shanus]

All is clear now, Plasma. Thanks! Time to git crackin'!

Expect new results in 7.2 soon.

Then we'll get everyone to start saving up those 2 lines by using the 7.2 code.

ohsnaps2lines

thanks for the help though, seriously :D

 

[kupo15]

All is clear now, Plasma. Thanks! Time to git crackin'!

Expect new results in 7.2 soon.

Then we'll get everyone to start saving up those 2 lines by using the 7.2 code.

Well, Giza will be saving 40!!!

Jk! Thanks for this!

 

[shanus]

Mookie, how much attention does Brawl+ get in the SBR btw? Is there not much talk going on in there about it or just not enough followers?

 

[kupo15]

OMG. Brawl+ feels soo good. All we need is the horizontal air speed code and we are pretty much set as far as feel is concerned. Two more glitches left but ****..

 

[Alopex]

Well, Giza will be saving 40!!!

Jk! Thanks for this!

It's all part of the plan.

PW's P.Trainer codes + Infinite replay = 42 lines.

Muhaha!

 

[shanus]

OMG. Brawl+ feels soo good. All we need is the horizontal air speed code and we are pretty much set as far as feel is concerned. Two more glitches left but ****..

It's pretty awesome I have to say. Nice work all, specially thankful of the coders!

 

[GPDP]

What's the Sonic Triple Jump glitch, again?

Also, are we messing with shield regeneration at all? Are you, kupo?

 

[kupo15]

What's the Sonic Triple Jump glitch, again?

Also, are we messing with shield regeneration at all? Are you, kupo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSOiGOvTzws

Yes I am. Shield regen is at .05 which feels pretty nice

 

[zxeon]

I can't tell if you're truly in favor of this project or are a troll.

Also, most of the community isn't in favor of Super Smash Bros. Slip n Slide, so you might want to take MAD out of your code list.
And no ASL? Come on now.

as long as he has the buffer at 1 it won't go all slip and slide. You need to keep up with the facts.

 

[wazgood]

OMG. Brawl+ feels soo good. All we need is the horizontal air speed code and we are pretty much set as far as feel is concerned. Two more glitches left but ****..

psst dont forget scarjumping. warioware will be the new yoshi's island =]

 

[kupo15]

psst dont forget scarjumping. warioware will be the new yoshi's island =]

lol sure. Maybe one of our hackers could do this like paprika? Just disable the wall jump on the same wall timer.

 

[shanus]

kupo what have you changed recently in your files? Anything that would merit me testing a new gct? Also, could we get the standard gct to get a stagefreeze on norfair and falcon's new level whatever its called?

 

[Shell]

I did a bunch of testing with a friend, and here are some (fast paced) settings we enjoyed if anyone's looking for a place to start:

Downward gravity 1.30
Shorthops .95
Hitstun 9.25% (yes, we tested 9 and 9.5)
Shieldstun v7.2 *2.5, +3
50% Hitlag
1 frame buffer

And the stupid(ly fun) dash cancel + no dash end animation.

No out of control juggles, tight control, no trouble with recoveries, and one Yes! combo. There's just enough shield stun and hitstun for a pretty good jab game. It's perfect for me.

I know we decided it would be difficult to make a no-fastfalled-c-stick'd-arials code, but did you ask PW what he thought about it yet, kupo?

 

[kupo15]

kupo what have you changed recently in your files? Anything that would merit me testing a new gct? Also, could we get the standard gct to get a stagefreeze on norfair and falcon's new level whatever its called?

sure one sec

I did a bunch of testing with a friend, and here are some (fast paced) settings we enjoyed if anyone's looking for a place to start:

Downward gravity 1.30
Shorthops .95
Hitstun 9.25% (yes, we tested 9 and 9.5)
Shieldstun v7.2 *2.5, +3
50% Hitlag
1 frame buffer

And the stupid(ly fun) dash cancel + no dash end animation.

No out of control juggles, tight control, no trouble with recoveries, and one Yes! combo. There's just enough shield stun and hitstun for a pretty good jab game. It's perfect for me.

I know we decided it would be difficult to make a no-fastfalled-c-stick'd-arials code, but did you ask PW what he thought about it yet, kupo?

I was planning on asking him when he provides us with the final triple jump code

 

[kupo15]

http://rapidshare.com/files/182671961/Brawl_.txt.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/182671962/RSBE01.gct.html

 

[shanus]

sure one sec


I was planning on asking him when he provides us with the final triple jump code

Thanks kupo, I'll just take whatever you are using and if you have the time to tack on the stage freezes too thatd be sick, but not crucial.

Edit: man simulposts ftw

 

[kupo15]

Thanks kupo, I'll just take whatever you are using and if you have the time to tack on the stage freezes too thatd be sick, but not crucial.

Edit: man simulposts ftw

oh forgot the stage codes....

We are having trouble combining the
ALC
Lagless
No ASL
Buffering
Triple
Dash canceling codes

Can someone do this and color coat each code separately and color the changing values yellow also?

 

[Flamingo]

I like the no tripping code!

 

[kupo15]

here is with the new level freezes

http://rapidshare.com/files/182673781/RSBE01.gct.html

 

[wazgood]

I like the no tripping code!

lolol quoted for truth

 

[Almas]

Seems some of you may have missed it. I'd appreciate testing for:

Short Hop Height/Dash Speed Multiplier [Almas, 9 Lines]
045A9304 SHORTHOP
045A9308 DASHDASH
C285765C 00000006
3FC0805A 3BDE7304
2C002F20 4082000C
C3FE2000 EC3F0072
2C002F00 4082000C
C3FE2004 EC3F0072
4E800020 00000000

Short Hop Height/Dash Speed/Fastfall Speed Multiplier [Almas, 12 Lines]
045A9300 FASTFALL
045A9304 SHORTHOP
045A9308 DASHDASH
C285765C 00000006
3FC0805A 3BDE7304
2C002F20 4082000C
C3FE2000 EC3F0072
2C002F00 4082000C
C3FE2004 EC3F0072
2C002F5C 4082000C
C3FE1FFC EC3F0072
4E800020 00000000

Dividing by one isn't possible if you want decimal multipliers or additions. Express everything as a fraction.

For example, if I wanted a multiple of 2.8 with 3.5 added on, I'd rewrite:

2.8 = 14/5
3.5 = 7/2

Then I'd find the lowest common denominator:

14/5=28/10
7/2=35/10

So I would multiply by 28, add 35, then divide by 10. Which in hex would be a multiply of 1B, add of 23, divide of A.

Anything to do with gentle presses of L/R is truly impossible. The game is only capable of registering full presses. Preventing fastfalls with c-stick down is... implausible but possible given enough effort, I think. I'm not certain though.

And y'all need to stop saying things like "has he done it YET" or "JUST do this". It's somewhat patronising. We don't exactly load up WiiRD, type in "enable scarjumping" and POOF, it's done. I'm just in a bit of a foul mood tonight, but it's really quite frustrating.

Oh, and combining is more than just finding all the lines which are the same and deleting them. Y'all haven't been deleting the E0000000 80008000, have you?

 

[shanus]

here is with the new level freezes

http://rapidshare.com/files/182673781/RSBE01.gct.html

<3 <3 <3 much appreciated

 

[kupo15]

oh right I should add those to the OP.

Almas, do you mind combining the codes I listed above yours?

Oh, and combining is more than just finding all the lines which are the same and deleting them. Y'all haven't been deleting the E0000000 80008000, have you?

Nope. Isn't combing something like delete the common beg lines, change a number the the amt of lines following and deleting the common ending lines? I know four codes share the same beg and ending lines

 

[Shell]

That dash speed code looks intriguing. Sonic's about to engage warp speed.

I'll check it out for you tomorrow.

 

[zxeon]

I'll give the speed code a swing.

 

[shanus]

Almas, I thikn a lot of people are just excited at the high turnout lately that they somewhat took it for granted. I know I, and I'm sure many others really am thankful for your hard work. I wish I knew how to do it so I could contribute more than just as testing, but I really have no idea how you guys do what you do. Your making awesome contributions and I really appreciate it.

 

[lamelikemike]

ditto, thanks for all your work. ill be testing the new code in 10 minutes or so.

 

[Jiangjunizzy]

id just like to add that samus is terrible without some kind of nerf to her short hop.

 

[shanus]

id just like to add that samus is terrible without some kind of nerf to her short hop.

your samus seemed so pretty in the vids you posted before :O

 

[Team Giza]

Well, Giza will be saving 40!!!

Combining these codes is a lot more difficult then I thought it would be. My keeps wii constantly freezing or doesn't read past the first code.

edit: found my main problem, feel stupid. edit 2: or I didnt. Now I feel stupider.

 

[Jiangjunizzy]

your samus seemed so pretty in the vids you posted before :O

i tried kupo's codeset and it has no trace of a short hopping samus resulting in a very sad samus that missed a plethora of nairs

 

[CyberGlitch]

Wow, 200 pages of Brawl+ enthusiasm.

I'm loving the new codes. Thank you for the shield regen one! And TJG fix works well (though the Yes! fix will be welcome).

I'm going to test your short hop modifiers, see what fits my fancy.

Just keep up the good work....cause I certainly can't keep up with it all.

 

[zxeon]

I can't get the fall/dash/hop code to boot Almas. I checked it for errors twice I'm gonna keep testing.

 

[lamelikemike]

yeah, could you give a direct line of hex to test on top of your explaination of how it works, i (and probly most) am still pretty hex illiterate.

thanx, can't wait to test it

 

[kupo15]

Wow, 200 pages of Brawl+ enthusiasm.

I'm loving the new codes. Thank you for the shield regen one! And TJG fix works well (though the Yes! fix will be welcome).

I'm going to test your short hop modifiers, see what fits my fancy.

Just keep up the good work....cause I certainly can't keep up with it all.

I informed PW. It should be fixed tomorrow.

 

[Alopex]

Ugh, turns out 3/5 shieldstun isn't quite as perfect as I thought it was now that I'm testing other characters. Mainly because of certain weak hits.

I'll stay on it and keep you guys posted.

Also, the Version 1 and Version 2 codes aren't as similar as they first seem. You'd think that plugging in the same value for X and Z and then making Y=1 would give you exact results, but it actually doesn't for some reason. Using 3/5 and 3/5/1, Version 2 actually gave less hitstun all around.

I'm going to work exclusively with Version 2 from now on since it's clear that a conversion from Version 1 to Version 2 won't really give same results, so it's best to just stick to one code throughout.

Saving two lines it is!

 

[shanus]

Ugh, turns out 3/5 shieldstun isn't quite as perfect as I thought it was now that I'm testing other characters. Mainly because of certain weak hits.

I'll stay on it and keep you guys posted.

Also, the Version 1 and Version 2 codes aren't as similar as they first seem. You'd think that plugging in the same value for X and Z and then making Y=1 would give you exact results, but it actually doesn't for some reason. Using 3/5 and 3/5/1, Version 2 actually gave less hitstun all around.

I'm going to work exclusively with Version 2 from now on since it's clear that a conversion from Version 1 to Version 2 won't really give same results, so it's best to just stick to one code throughout.

Saving two lines it is!

Just was abotu to say, tried out 3/5, definitely wasnt right. I shieldblocked mario's fireball, was trying to grab as i was right next to him, he got off a partially charged upsmash before i could grab. i think it needs some more tweaks haha

off to bed i go