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Cliché Thread: Best Film I've Ever Seen
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mr try hard
rudeezy
Smash Journeyman
i read about it, and Banksy isn't even in it that much i think
i'll have to actually see it of course
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
The difference can be seen by comparing his films to others of their respected genres. Let's take that one horror flick he put out not too long ago. The movie ended up being nothing but torture porn. It wasn't scary because we didn't give two ****s about the characters on screen. There was nothing attaching us to them other than their struggle. There was no build up. Compared to another horror torture flick, Audition, there's a huge difference that can be easily seen. One of the main difference is in the villain, who the film allows time to build as a meancing threat. There is content behind the torture scene, where in the Quinton film, its just someone we don't care about cutting up someone else we don't care about. This is just one example and its existent within all of his films.
pockyD
Smash Legend
i'm sorry but we really need to address this
do you think his name is quinton? or is this a "barlw" thing
do you think his name is quinton? or is this a "barlw" thing
DUDE I saw that movie a little while back and it was incredible. Highly recommend
Lovage
Smash Hero
ya city of god *****
btw has anyone seen buena vista social club (1999)?
one of my favorite music movies
btw has anyone seen buena vista social club (1999)?
one of my favorite music movies
embracethe12
Smash Lord
Is Wall-E a good movie?
joeplicate
Smash Master
dam dude are you like 14
i would give this a B+ if i taught your seventh grade english class
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
I am partially dyslexic, have alway had trouble remembering names, have typing issues, and don't proofread internet post, all of which can make my post have either some big or minor mistakes.
Regardless, my point still stands. Quinton is a shock based director who is also highly derivative of other works.
HyugaRicdeau
Baller/Shot-caller
Speaking of dyslexia, 1:00 in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaGLZEdYDGU
One of the best comedy opening scenes of all time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaGLZEdYDGU
One of the best comedy opening scenes of all time.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
because you've countered my points so clearly! dip ****
Jun.
Smash Lord
P
you're turning soft
you're turning soft
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Bull ****. Here you are claiming that I'm closed minded when no one has yet to even present any sort of counter argument. There is NO BASIS for you claiming such a thing, and since you can't articulate yourself in such a way, you revert to these basic insults as it evades all the points that I am addressing, while allowing you to feel accomplished.
joeplicate
Smash Master
here's what you do to attract the most possible negative attention to yourself on smashboards:
-go to another region's social boards
-act like an idiot
-go to another region's social boards
-act like an idiot
oh boy, look at where all this pulp fiction talk got you.
Also, no matter how much people try to look for meanings within pulp fiction, it really makes no bones about what it is: it's a bunch of people having a good time within its wacky surreal plot. It's a pastiche of existing genres of crime film, but it doesn't set out to be much of anything. It tries to capture a surreal kind of life where diverse people are interconnected purely by the director's whim and also creates a sense of interweaving and blending both of genre lines and of the fourth wall between the characters and the viewer. Nobody asks why jules and vincent talk about the royale with cheese or foot massages, and nobody doesn't laugh when marvin gets shot in the face. It's just a good mix of action and laid-back humor that doesn't try to take itself seriously with some shoutouts to other films in it. You can spend all your time analyzing **** a monkey threw against a wall, but that doesn't mean there's meaning in it.
Also, no matter how much people try to look for meanings within pulp fiction, it really makes no bones about what it is: it's a bunch of people having a good time within its wacky surreal plot. It's a pastiche of existing genres of crime film, but it doesn't set out to be much of anything. It tries to capture a surreal kind of life where diverse people are interconnected purely by the director's whim and also creates a sense of interweaving and blending both of genre lines and of the fourth wall between the characters and the viewer. Nobody asks why jules and vincent talk about the royale with cheese or foot massages, and nobody doesn't laugh when marvin gets shot in the face. It's just a good mix of action and laid-back humor that doesn't try to take itself seriously with some shoutouts to other films in it. You can spend all your time analyzing **** a monkey threw against a wall, but that doesn't mean there's meaning in it.
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Jun.
Smash Lord
sooooo
it does have substance
it does have substance
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
I'm not trolling, he really is a horrible director. He's what happens when you give a teenage boy a blockbuster budget, a bunch of crappy fan fictions come to life.
pockyD
Smash Legend
what do you think the term "pulp fiction" means
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You are trolling because
a) You are not a credible movie critic
and
b) You have already proven to be heavily biased against him
So why should we argue against you?
also, mics avatar gives me hope that valve will give some information on episode 3 next week
a) You are not a credible movie critic
and
b) You have already proven to be heavily biased against him
So why should we argue against you?
also, mics avatar gives me hope that valve will give some information on episode 3 next week
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also, episode 6 for season 3 of breaking bad has to be my favorite right now.
yeah double post, but two completely different subjects
Hank trapping Jesse and Walt in the RV, wow. During that whole conflict, I had no idea how the two of them were going to escape. The writers did a great job thinking to use Marie as a distraction. My respect for this show just continues to increase with every episode I watch.
yeah double post, but two completely different subjects
fingers crossed, especially with Valve announcing the cancellation of an unannounced portal 2 conference to discus something else. (Come on Gabe, don't t oy with us
)Crashic, I already explained how you were trolling via PMs. Post here again and I'll infract you again. Drop it. If you just have to debate it, do so with me via PMs.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Simply because its molded after the Pulp genre doesn't mean it has to be pointless. The Host is a monster movie, but underneath it all there's a great movie to be had there. The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford is not only in the most cliche genre of all time, but its story is the most overused in the entire genre. Despite both of these things, TAJJBTCRF ends up being an astounding film, free of the cliches of its genre. The genre does not limit the film from achieving greatness, except for perhaps the kind I can't mention on Smashboards.
If I could point to a few pulp movies that do this, I would first point to The Cooler. Let's compare the depth of Samuel L. Jackson's character to that of Shelly Kaplow. Samuel's revelation is that God has saved him and it is now his religious duty to preach this to everyone he can find. A very shallow character change that happens in only an instant and doesn't really add anything to the overall content other than a few laughs. Shelly on the other hand, the things going on in his mind are far more complex, multi layered, and add an incredible deal to the story. He's a man beyond his time, holding on to all that he knows, waiting till someone takes him out. Grasping on to his cooler, doing everything to try to keep him in this town working under his casino. He tries money, women, bribes, and debts, because Bernie is the last piece of the world that he once controlled. This is all summed up perfectly by another charecter, also a man beyound his prime in this scene:
actually **** it seems they took it off of youtube. Basically, he friend is on the couch, and he talks about a documentary he saw about male lions, about how male lions only leave a pack once they are kicked out by another younger male lion. Injured and weak, the male lion dies in the wild, unable to capture his own prey in this condition. "You see Shelly, its tragic because if the lion would just admit he's not what he used to be and move on, he could have avoided so much pain and humiliation."
Shelly- "That's kind of like admitting you're already dead. I think I like it better nature's way, don't you?"
This little tiny moment of character development trumps the entire stagnant cast of Pulp Fiction, save for Samuel whose characters development is hardly developed at all. The Cooler still has its fair share of cliche's that exist within the genre, but the quality of the film more than overpasses this, while Pulp Fiction reveals in its lack of depth like a pig in his own filth.
b. Having a dis favorable opinion of him is not biased if I truly believe and with full intent that he is bad.
If I could point to a few pulp movies that do this, I would first point to The Cooler. Let's compare the depth of Samuel L. Jackson's character to that of Shelly Kaplow. Samuel's revelation is that God has saved him and it is now his religious duty to preach this to everyone he can find. A very shallow character change that happens in only an instant and doesn't really add anything to the overall content other than a few laughs. Shelly on the other hand, the things going on in his mind are far more complex, multi layered, and add an incredible deal to the story. He's a man beyond his time, holding on to all that he knows, waiting till someone takes him out. Grasping on to his cooler, doing everything to try to keep him in this town working under his casino. He tries money, women, bribes, and debts, because Bernie is the last piece of the world that he once controlled. This is all summed up perfectly by another charecter, also a man beyound his prime in this scene:
actually **** it seems they took it off of youtube. Basically, he friend is on the couch, and he talks about a documentary he saw about male lions, about how male lions only leave a pack once they are kicked out by another younger male lion. Injured and weak, the male lion dies in the wild, unable to capture his own prey in this condition. "You see Shelly, its tragic because if the lion would just admit he's not what he used to be and move on, he could have avoided so much pain and humiliation."
Shelly- "That's kind of like admitting you're already dead. I think I like it better nature's way, don't you?"
This little tiny moment of character development trumps the entire stagnant cast of Pulp Fiction, save for Samuel whose characters development is hardly developed at all. The Cooler still has its fair share of cliche's that exist within the genre, but the quality of the film more than overpasses this, while Pulp Fiction reveals in its lack of depth like a pig in his own filth.
a. simply because I am not payed doesn't make my opinions less valid.
b. Having a dis favorable opinion of him is not biased if I truly believe and with full intent that he is bad.
The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
yeah dude
wall-e was a good movie. it was hella cute and theres lots of fatties in it
wall-e was a good movie. it was hella cute and theres lots of fatties in it
HyugaRicdeau
Baller/Shot-caller
I still don't really understand how all your criticism of Pulp Fiction is anything more than complaining that it's not Citizen Kane (or whatever). You want it to be something that it's not. You seem to have a very structured view of how characters are supposed to develop or how stories are supposed to progress, and if they don't fit your expected paradigm then they are "bad."
joeplicate
Smash Master
u bored!!!!
frotaz37
Smash Lord
"You aren't currently in a position to have your movie reviews published so you aren't allowed to have an opinion on movies"
Dumb.
Dumb.
Lovage
Smash Hero
wtf its a social thread
who gives a ****
who gives a ****
pockyD
Smash Legend
is pac west social the "random mods come in and give their 2 cents what 'should' and 'shouldn't' happen but nobody cares" board
The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
some guy came in being a *** and mic came and cleaned him up
but hes still here
pretty ezpz situation to grasp
but hes still here
pretty ezpz situation to grasp
Jun.
Smash Lord
man
pac west social
no joke
pac west social
no joke
Gishnak
Smash Ace
Oh man looks like I missed a chance for some good counter-trolling.
Hey Crashic, you're movie critiques are probably below mediocre and your basic sentence structure could be improved! Yeah!
Also, your name is pink like a vagina.
Hey Crashic, you're movie critiques are probably below mediocre and your basic sentence structure could be improved! Yeah!
Also, your name is pink like a vagina.
Atlus8
Smash Master
Hahaha! I was just going through pages and saw a block of text on the previous page! I figured it's someone that isn't from Pac West and is getting ripped by everyone here!
AzN_Lep
Smash Champion
apparently there's a new mortal kombat movie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_MqZn7E-mk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_MqZn7E-mk