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Character speed change thoughts

Mario & Sonic Guy

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For quite a while, I've been rather interested on if it were possible to modify the speed attributes that each fighter has. As such, I decided to make a table that depicts what speed attribute changes that I'd possibly make for certain fighters.

Now, I know that not everyone is going to agree with my thoughts below, and some fighters do remain unchanged, but please try to be civil when replying.

No. | Character | Walk Speed | Run Speed | Air Speed | Falling Speed
01 | Mario :4mario: | 1.1 | 1.6 | 1.15 | 1.5
02 | Luigi :4luigi: | 1.08 | 1.5 | 0.92 | 1.25
03 | Peach :4peach: | 0.86 | 1.45 | 1.19 | 1.15
04 | Bowser :4bowser: | 0.858 | 1.792 | 1 | 1.4
05 | Yoshi :4yoshi: | 1.15 | 1.86 | 1.28 | 1.28
06 | Rosalina :rosalina: | 1.09 | 1.65 | 1.25 | 1.2
07 | Bowser Jr. :4bowserjr: | 0.88 | 1.424 | 1.08 | 1.65
08 | Wario :4wario: | 0.847 | 1.5 | 1.21 | 1.61
09 | Donkey Kong :4dk: | 1.3 | 1.705 | 1.15 | 1.63
10 | Diddy Kong :4diddy: | 1.25 | 1.824 | 0.88 | 1.75
11 | Mr. Game & Watch :4gaw: | 1.125 | 1.55 | 1.15 | 1.24
12 | Little Mac :4littlemac: | 1.35 | 2.24 | 1 | 1.8
13 | Link :4link: | 1.188 | 1.4 | 0.88 | 1.6
14 | Zelda :4zelda: | 0.87 | 1.3 | 1.08 | 1.22
15 | Sheik :4sheik: | 1.4 | 2.02 | 0.88 | 1.75
16 | Ganondorf :4ganondorf: | 0.73 | 1.2 | 0.8 | 1.65
17 | Toon Link :4tlink: | 1.23 | 1.75 | 1.14 | 1.28
18 | Samus :4samus: | 1.062 | 1.51 | 1.03 | 1.25
19 | Zero Suit Samus :4zss: | 1.4 | 2.1 | 1.2 | 1.7
20 | Pit :4pit: | 1.2 | 1.663 | 0.9 | 1.48
21 | Palutena :4palutena: | 1.23 | 1.9 | 1.14 | 1.4
22 | Marth :4marth: | 1.5 | 1.785 | 1.02 | 1.58
23 | Ike :4myfriends: | 0.87 | 1.5 | 1.08 | 1.65
24 | Robin :4robinm: | 0.891 | 1.15 | 1 | 1.5
25 | Duck Hunt :4duckhunt: | 1.16 | 1.63 | 1.1 | 1.55
26 | Kirby :4kirby: | 0.93 | 1.57 | 1.04 | 1.23
27 | King Dedede :4dedede: | 0.98 | 1.36 | 0.7 | 1.95
28 | Meta Knight :4metaknight: | 1.19 | 1.9 | 0.8 | 1.56
29 | Fox :4fox: | 1.45 | 2.2 | 0.96 | 2.05
30 | Falco :4falco: | 1.28 | 1.92 | 0.93 | 1.8
31 | Pikachu :4pikachu: | 1.24 | 1.855 | 0.92 | 1.55
32 | Charizard :4charizard: | 1.21 | 2 | 1.09 | 1.4
33 | Lucario :4lucario: | 1.05 | 1.5 | 1.1 | 1.56
34 | Jigglypuff :4jigglypuff: | 0.7 | 1.1 | 1.35 | 0.95
35 | Greninja :4greninja: | 1.43 | 2.08 | 1.18 | 1.85
36 | R.O.B. :4rob: | 1.122 | 1.568 | 1.08 | 1.6
37 | Ness :4ness: | 0.875 | 1.465 | 0.96 | 1.31
38 | Captain Falcon :4falcon: | 0.94 | 2.32 | 1.18 | 1.85
39 | Villager :4villager: | 1.04 | 1.27 | 0.94 | 1.32
40 | Olimar :4olimar: | 0.9 | 1.47 | 0.82 | 1.3
41 | Wii Fit Trainer :4wiifit: | 1.166 | 1.7 | 0.97 | 1.3
42 | Shulk :4shulk: | 1.1 | 1.52 | 1.06 | 1.5
43 | Dr. Mario :4drmario: | 0.957 | 1.392 | 1.0005 | 1.5
44 | Dark Pit :4darkpit: | 1.2 | 1.663 | 0.9 | 1.48
45 | Lucina :4lucina: | 1.5 | 1.785 | 1.02 | 1.58
46 | PAC-MAN :4pacman: | 1.045 | 1.52 | 1.04 | 1.35
47 | Mega Man :4megaman: | 1.078 | 1.456 | 1.1 | 1.8
48 | Sonic :4sonic: | 1.4 | 3.5 | 1.15 | 1.45
49 | Mewtwo :4mewtwo: | 1.21 | 2.05 | 1.25 | 1.68
50 | Lucas :4lucas: | 0.82 | 1.5 | 1.05 | 1.37
51 | Roy :4feroy: | 1.15 | 1.95 | 1.24 | 1.8
52 | Ryu :4ryu: | 0.75 | 1.6 | 1.12 | 1.6
53a | Cloud (Normal) :4cloud: | 1.1 | 1.97 | 1.1 | 1.68
53b | Cloud (Limit Break) :4cloud: | 1.265 | 2.167 | 1.32 | 1.848
54 | Corrin :4corrin: | 1.2 | 1.5 | 1.15 | 1.65
55 | Bayonetta :4bayonetta: | 0.9 | 1.6 | 0.97 | 1.77
56 | Mii Brawler :4miibrawl: | 1.15 | 1.72 | 1.2 | 1.7
57 | Mii Swordfighter :4miisword: | 1.188 | 1.5 | 0.97 | 1.6
58 | Mii Gunner :4miigun: | 1.05 | 1.3 | 1.05 | 1.45
 

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From the looks of this... I can't understand a damn good thing about it, unfortunately. XD
 

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These are the meaningful ones I found, there are many changes in the list but some are so minuscule I don't understand if you round up/down or you were serious about. However:

Buffed
:4falco: 1.47 -> 1.92
:4corrin: 1.5 -> 1.55
:4peach: 1.4175 -> 1.45

Nerfed
:4lucario: 1.55 -> 1.5
:4jigglypuff: 1.155 -> 1.1

The buffs on Falco seem really big, I don't know how beneficial could be without making the character broken, someone with much more knowledge on the character could explain better.
Why you nerfed Jigglypuff?! Seriously.
Oh, and I expected a bit of love for mah man Robin :'(
 
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For those who are curious about Jigglypuff, keep note that I increased its air speed, which compensates for the decreased run speed. When you think about it, a run speed nerf is pretty much negligible for a fighter who excels a lot better in the air.

Tizio Random Tizio Random : I thought that Lucario's run speed was still set at 1.4847. Apparently, someone forgot to fix that.
 

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Oh, right, I don't think that the world is ready for Rosalina 1.25 air speed. Same for Luigi.
 

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I like how Jigglypuff has the fastest air speed on your list, I never quite understood why Yoshi had to be faster, it just doesn't make much sense when you think about it. Also, if you don't mind me asking, why has Rosalina and Luma's airspeed's been buffed? Like, is it for a balance reason or just to make her design make more sense/be more accurate?
 
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I like how Jigglypuff has the fastest air speed on your list, I never quite understood why Yoshi had to be faster, it just doesn't make much sense when you think about it. Also, if you don't mind me asking, why has Rosalina and Luma's airspeed's been buffed? Like, is it for a balance reason or just to make her design make more sense/be more accurate?
For two reasons really. The first reason is to make Rosalina's design be more sensible and more accurate, since for a girl who has levitation powers, you would think that her air mobility would be very good. And truthfully, I've often wanted Rosalina to have one of the best air speed attributes as well; 3rd best overall (excluding Limit Break Cloud), tying with Mewtwo, while losing only to Jigglypuff and Yoshi. The second reason is in regards to Rosalina's recovery; Launch Star doesn't deal any damage, and making safe landings isn't exactly easy if you're floaty and most fighters can easily outwalk your air speed.

In fact, portions of the air speed increases that I've made are in regards to helping the recoveries of certain fighters; examples include Luigi, Kirby, Charizard, Dr. Mario, and Corrin. There are also some falling speed decreases as well, such as with Duck Hunt.

But in terms of air speed nerfs, the one I gave to Meta Knight is obviously due to his versatile recovery options, but I also lowered Meta Knight's falling speed a bit to compensate for the air speed decrease.
 
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:4falco: 1.47 -> 1.92

The buffs on Falco seem really big, I don't know how beneficial could be without making the character broken, someone with much more knowledge on the character could explain better.
Falco already has a strong combo and boxing game. Speed like this would make him stupidly viable again with Fox levels of pressure.
 
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