Character ratings from the Official PRIMA strategy guide...

[Kabuto Mushi]

I was flipping through the back and happened to notice the character "ratings" they set up, and decided to post them here... for anyone who hasn't seen em'. The first page of that section refers you back to these forums for "updated strategies"...

Bowser
Offence:7
Defense:5
Projectiles:3
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:8
Speed:1
Overall:7

Capt. Falcon
Offence:8
Defense:7
Projectiles:-
Final Smash:6
Throwing Ability:10
Speed:10
Overall:8

Diddy Kong
Offence:8
Defense:7
Projectiles:8
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:6
Speed:10
Overall:8

Donkey Kong
Offence:6
Defense:5
Projectiles:-
Final Smash:6
Throwing Ability:8
Speed:6
Overall:6

Falco
Offence:7
Defense:7
Projectiles:7
Final Smash:9
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:10
Overall:7

Fox
Offence:6
Defense:4
Projectiles:10
Final Smash:9
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:10
Overall:6

Gannondorf
Offence:7
Defense:3
Projectiles:-
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:3
Overall:6

Ice Climbers
Offence:7
Defense:5
Projectiles:5
Final Smash:8
Throwing Ability:8
Speed:6
Overall:6

Ike
Offence:8
Defense:7
Projectiles:-
Final Smash:4
Throwing Ability:6
Speed:5
Overall:6

Jigglypuff
Offence:8
Defense:10
Projectiles:-
Final Smash:8
Throwing Ability:4
Speed:5
Overall:7

Dedede
Offence:7
Defense:7
Projectiles:6
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:4
Overall:7

Kirby
Offence:5
Defense:5
Projectiles:-
Final Smash:6
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:6
Overall:5

Link
Offence:7
Defense:7
Projectiles:10
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:3
Speed:6
Overall:7

Lucario
Offence:7
Defense:9
Projectiles:8
Final Smash:4
Throwing Ability:6
Speed:6
Overall:7

Lucas
Offence:8
Defense:7
Projectiles:9
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:7
Overall:7

Luigi
Offence:7
Defense:4
Projectiles:6
Final Smash:5
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:6
Overall:6

Mario
Offence:7
Defense:6
Projectiles:7
Final Smash:8
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:7
Overall:7

Marth
Offence:9
Defense:8
Projectiles:-
Final Smash:8
Throwing Ability:9
Speed:7
Overall:9

Metaknight
Offence:6
Defense:8
Projectiles:-
Final Smash:4
Throwing Ability:6
Speed:8
Overall:6

Mr. Game and Watch
Offence:7
Defense:4
Projectiles:5
Final Smash:5
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:7
Overall:6

Ness
Offence:8
Defense:7
Projectiles:9
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:8
Speed:6
Overall:7

Olimar
Offence:5
Defense:3
Projectiles:7
Final Smash:9
Throwing Ability:6
Speed:6
Overall:5

Peach
Offence:8
Defense:8
Projectiles:7
Final Smash:6
Throwing Ability:6
Speed:6
Overall:8

Pikachu
Offence:6
Defense:5
Projectiles:6
Final Smash:4
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:10
Overall:5

Pit
Offence:7
Defense:3
Projectiles:9
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:5
Overall:7

Rob
Offence:5
Defense:7
Projectiles:7
Final Smash:4
Throwing Ability:5
Speed:6
Overall:6

PKMN Trainer
Offence:7
Defense:8
Projectiles:5
Final Smash:8
Throwing Ability:6
Speed:7
Overall:7

Samus
Offence:7
Defense:5
Projectiles:8
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:5
Speed:6
Overall:6

Zamus
Offence:8
Defense:6
Projectiles:7
Final Smash:-
Throwing Ability:5
Speed:8
Overall:7

Snake
Offence:8
Defense:5
Projectiles:9
Final Smash:8
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:4
Overall:8

Sonic
Offence:8
Defense:5
Projectiles:-
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:6
Speed:10
Overall:7

Toon Link
Offence:8
Defense:7
Projectiles:10
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:3
Speed:7
Overall:8

Wario
Offence:6
Defense:4
Projectiles:-
Final Smash:6
Throwing Ability:7
Speed:6
Overall:5

Wolf
Offence:8
Defense:8
Projectiles:7
Final Smash:9
Throwing Ability:5
Speed:6
Overall:8

Yoshi
Offence:5
Defense:5
Projectiles:6
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:5
Speed:7
Overall:5

Shiek
Offence:7
Defense:7
Projectiles:7
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:8
Speed:9
Overall:7

Zelda
Offence:6
Defense:5
Projectiles:6
Final Smash:7
Throwing Ability:6
Speed:7
Overall:6



And so, in summary:

9
-Marth (Uh, Marth tier?)

8 (High tier?)
-Wolf
-Toon Link
-Snake
-Peach
-Diddy Kong
-Capt. Falcon

7 -(Mid tier?)
-Bowser
-Falco
-Jigglypuff
-Dedede
-Link
-Lucario
-Lucas
-Mario
-Ness
-Pit
-PKMN Trainer
-Zamus
-Sonic
-Shiek

6 (Low tier?)
-Zelda
-Samus
-ROB
-Mr. Game and Watch
-Metaknight
-Luigi
-Ike
-Ice Climbers
-Gannondorf
-Fox
-DK

5 (Bottom tier?)
-Kirby
-Pikachu
-Wario
-Yoshi
-Olimar


IMO, the whole thing seems pretty crazy to me... they gave really flimsy reasons for their scores and tactics... I lol'd at a cuple on there, including Olimar's ridiculously low placement. It just seems like the writers didn't really know how to handle him. >.> oh well, less people will be expecting him, I guess...

Please discuss... where did your main fall?

 

[chainsaw2x333]

Olimar is definetly not bottom tier ......but im glad they made him look bad, so when someone busts *** with him nobody will expect it

 

[Ookami-kun]

It's PRIMA. What do you expect? XD

 

[DubsK866]

Rating Fawkes a 6= a win of epic proportions

 

[Milos]

haha, that was very very dumb, only one I agree with is marth to be honest

 

[kr3wman]

lawls,

Marth Tier.

EDIT : I don't know...These are obviously ratings after 1-2 days of playing...Im sure the community, after some months will get a better idea of who goes where.

 

[Banjodorf]

It's PRIMA. What do you expect? XD

Exactly. Wario a 5? OLIMAR a 5? HAH.


Prima ftl.

I remember NINTENDO's Melee guide, they gave mewtwo almost a top score HAHA.

 

[Radical Dreamer]

Why does Prima even make strategy guides? Wario and Olimar lower than Captain Falcon, Ganondof and Sonic is a joke.

 

[Icarus Descent]

I don't like these ratings much,the seem inaccurate some characters deserve better.

 

[SeriousWB]

You bought a strategy guide?! What's the point in them anymore now we have the internet?

 

[ProvesaDark]

Wow that will be awesome if some who knew what they were talking about make a tier list

 

[Killer Tree]

Link higher than Fox lulz

 

[Your Therapist]

Those stats look kinda funky.... Kirby def. wouldn't be bottom tier with the buffs he's gotten. It seems like that could be somewhat of a Melee tier list gone strange. XD

Also- WARIO PWNS UR FACE. HE'S NO 5!

 

[Super Drybones]

Those stats look kinda funky.... Kirby def. wouldn't be bottom tier with the buffs he's gotten. It seems like that could be somewhat of a Melee tier list gone strange. XD

Also- WARIO PWNS UR FACE. HE'S NO 5!

I also like how they said he doesn't have a projectile(upB anyone)
Kirby's at least 7.5

 

[Kirby M.D.]

I'd say this was an ease of use scale, but that wouldn't explain Meta's low placement or C.Falc's high one. Outside of a couple WTFs (Olimar, Falcon, Falco/Fox, Weegee and R.O.B/G&W) this isn't far off from some of the popular sentiment tier lists.

 

[Ookami-kun]

PRIMA guides are known for being erroneous.

 

[DeliciousCake]

LOL wtf ZSS doesn't even get a final smash rating? Did these people even play the game for more than one round per character?

 

[Lant]

In terms of raw stats, it seems about right, rememeber these guides are only really aimed at new players who struggle with the game and want some extra info. At least that's how I always looked at it. The fact that they reference SWF in there to me seems like they're saying:

"Hey grats, you evolved from a newb to knowing what you have to do, now go over there and check out what the community has to say"

Most fighting games tier lists constantly change due to metagame and so on, and if you look at the Melee tier list, Fox is great, yet he's dang hard to use for a beginner. I imagine that's the same thing here.

I doubt this made much sense as I tend to ramble, oh well!

TL;DR: IMO It's a list for beginners, not for playing at the highest possible level.

 

[Mr. Pants]

olimar at the bottom? the VERY bottom? haha i don't think so. everyone has been whining about how cheap olimar is (he's not cheap) and even these talks about banning him (yeah right) but i guess marth is always going to be up there... i hate marth...

 

[FrozenRoy]

That's right friends, it is time for my MYM16 Rankings! It's quite simple, I rank the sets I like, in the order I like them, so that you can see this list of pretty pictures and go "oh with that rating this set must be LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOATHED ENTIIIIIIIIIIIIRELY by him!". It's just my opinion, though.

As usual, my MYM16 Ratings will be able to be found by clicking the little Aradia in my signature. Sorry if it doesn't show up sometimes: For some reason my sig seems to disappear at times. Say hi, flying Aradia! My rankings also tend to be more fluid than some others, with fairly frequent changes, so sometimes you might want to check back when I rank things to see if anything changed.

Sets are ranked on a 10 star scale, as explained below. It also will tell you how many sets are in each tier.

Star Rating Explanation

- 10 Stars(1 Ranked): Yes, I actually give out ten stars. 10 stars are for the elite of the elite for the contest...in my opinion, anyway. These sets have neglible negative points or easily glossed over ones, alongside things such as great gameplay, execution, concept and the like.
- 9 Stars(1 Ranked): Nine stars are sets which are personal favorites, but have some sort of flaw keeping them from the 10 stars, or just are slightly less liked: For example, maybe the set is awesome, except the set falls flat on it's face for a few moves, that sort of thing. These are still in the elite, however.
- 8 Stars(7 Ranked): Eight star sets are great sets, but something is missing, keeping them merely in the upper echelons rather than the elite. A little elbow grease and you can take these and turn their moveset philosophies into true tens.
- 7 Stars(6 Ranked): Seven star sets are good, but not great, usually having some large flaw or somesuch to keep them out of higher tiers. Maybe their concept has a critical logic error or the gameplay is particularly flawed in some area, such as an overly long recovery or a gameplay critical move with whack lag times. Movesets here, while good, tend to be ultimately forgettable.
- 6 Stars(18 Ranked): Six stars are sets I like, but which have...issues, really needing massive improvement. Maybe the concepts aren't expanded upon or the set is particularly imbalanced or underdetailed, but with enough to make up for it.
- 5 Stars(20 Ranked): At five stars, I don't like it, but I don't dislike it either...in other words, average. What else needs to be said?
- 4 Stars(17 Ranked): At 4 stars, I dislike the moveset, but I don't dislike it all that much. Maybe it has some redeeming quality that keeps it from the lower rungs or I can understand viewpoints that might lead others to like it. All the same, this is the start of bad.
- 3 Stars(13 Ranked): Three stars? Moveset is bad, with the minimal redeeming qualities, maybe just has one standout thing and then a bunch of crap. You dig me?
- 2 Stars(10 Ranked): At two stars, I hate the moveset. Maybe it's really tacky, hideously imbalanced, characterization destruction, whatever: This is one of the two worst and the moveset is ultimately awful in multiple manners.
- 1 Star(7 Ranked): At one star, the moveset is LOOOOOOOOATHED ENTIIIIIIIIIIIRELY.

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Ranked Movesets

Number of MYM16 Sets Ranked: 100

Chou Chou
**********
10/10

Dhoulmagus
*********
9/10

Altis
********
8/10

Prime Minister Honest (Ft. Syura)
********
8/10

Vander Decken
********
8/10

Father Cornello
********
8/10

Arlong
********
8/10

Judge Nemo
********
8/10

Mnoleg
********
8/10

Evil Sir Leopold
*******
7/10

Bahamut
*******
7/10

Grandmatriarchs
*******
7/10

Typhlosion
*******
7/10

Slappy
*******
7/10

Hydrazoa
*******
7/10

Lom Lobon
******
6/10

Ryuto
******
6/10

Genjo Sanzo
******
6/10

Wang Chan
******
6/10

Donnel
******
6/10

Axton
******
6/10

Clawgrip
******
6/10

Ravio
******
6/10

EX Red King
******
6/10

Kuvira
******
6/10

Yomiko Readman
******
6/10

Bellatrix Lestrange
******
6/10

Feraligatr
******
6/10

Shinobu
******
6/10

Azula
******
6/10

Cerebov
******
6/10

Braixen
******
6/10

J
******
6/10

Blastoise
******
6/10

Meganium
*****
5/10

Castform
*****
5/10

Tamaki Kawazoe
*****
5/10

inkling
*****
5/10

Accelgor
*****
5/10

Syrup
*****
5/10

Hol Horse
*****
5/10

Wonder Red
*****
5/10

Duck Hunt Dog
*****
5/10

Groose
*****
5/10

Howl
*****
5/10

Kludge
*****
5/10

Lore
*****
5/10

Hero's Shade
*****
5/10

Magcargo
*****
5/10

Kuroobi
*****
5/10

Sokka
*****
5/10

Zhu Li (Ft. Varrick)
*****
5/10

The Grizz
*****
5/10

Chew
*****
5/10

Zant
****
4/10

Venusaur
****
4/10

Hatchan
****
4/10

Yosemite Sam
****
4/10

Daisy
****
4/10

Funky Kong
****
4/10

El Jefe
****
4/10

Hitmonchan
****
4/10

Magikarp
****
4/10

Sylveon
****
4/10

Sonic Heroes
****
4/10

Deadpool
****
4/10

Aang
****
4/10

Hody Jones
****
4/10

Sheriff Toothpick
****
4/10

Shrek
****
4/10

Banjo-Kazooie
****
4/10

Korra
***
3/10

Charizard
***
3/10

Baymax and Hiro
***
3/10

Brandon Whittaker
***
3/10

Carbink
***
3/10

Gloorx Vloq
***
3/10

Wizzro
***
3/10

Ephraim
***
3/10

Dr. Robotnik
***
3/10

Lance
***
3/10

Fi
***
3/10

Black Knight
***
3/10

Scorpion
***
3/10

War Mage
**
2/10

Khybon
**
2/10

Frank West
**
2/10

Captain Toad
**
2/10

Ms. Decibal
**
2/10

Steve?
**
2/10

Toon Link 2.0
**
2/10

Baby Bowser
**
2/10

Mr. Monopoly
**
2/10

Halekulani
*
1/10

Omochao
*
1/10

Neku Sakuraba
*
1/10

Sailor Moon
*
1/10

Mad Mike
*
1/10

Chrom
*
1/10

Kamen Rider Double
*
1/10

Steven Chapman
*
1/10

 

[Rang Flash]

How is jiggly's defense a 10

 

[pika-power]

How is jiggly's defense a 10

Well he can heal himself with rest, remember?

 

[Kabuto Mushi]

You bought a strategy guide?! What's the point in them anymore now we have the internet?

My parents bought it for me. I'm well-aware of the pointlessness of guides. >.>

 

[SinisterLizard]

The prima guide is crap. I bought it, and there's just so much flat-out wrong with it. It thinks Olimar is a Pokemon Trainer clone for one, and it thinks SSE is the only way to unlock most of the characters...

 

[pirkid]

This officially proves that Tires Du Exits.

 

[SmashBro99]

It's PRIMA. What do you expect? XD

All that needs to be said.

 

[Teef And Claws]

Ha Ha Ha those rating are ridiculous on some of them they don't even average the scores right... Unless they just decided to randomly slap an overall mark on characters without considering their previous scores. That whole list is pretty bogus though.

 

[ThaDirtyG]

Interesting list, although it does seem informed. I play fox and so I was sad to see him fall lower on the list, although I wasn't expecting him to be near the top anymore.

It will be interesting to see how the tier list actually plays out in the end. This list, while informative, would ignore the vast array of techniques that will rise with each character which would change things.

Another interesting points is the way characters stack up against each other. While Marth is definitely a solid character he definitely has some more weaknesses this time around and seems to struggle against some characters more than others. People may disagree with me here, but me and my friend have found him quite weak against Pikachu who (interestingly enough) is found at the bottom of this list.

All and all great post.

 

[Falling Whistness]

If you guys have a problem with these ratings, post your own in the "Your character ratings" thread, I just updated the averages there.

 

[Fletch]

At least they got Marth right.

 

[Titan05]

This is why I buy guides for the artwork. It may not be completely off but where they messed up, they messed up bad.

 

[ph00tbag]

lol@ ganon's place.

Also, lol in general.

 

[YSM]

lmao at the ratings for Fox, Olimar, and Pikachu(among many others). The only thing they got right was Marth.

 

[susu_atari]

Toon Link and Diddy Kong should be 10 overall. I've been playing Brawl for a month now, and they are both virtually faultless. They're the new Fox and Marth. Simple as that.

 

[psicicle]

ahem:

Bowser

Speed:1

Ike

Speed:5

 

[-Risky-]

How can no one get lower than a five? The characters are only good relative to eachother

Also, is the guide any good? Haven't seen much of it

 

[NJzFinest]

Olimar is the worst!
xD

This list is beyond wrong

 

[Roy-Kun]

Ike got a 6 rating?

I don't care, I'm maining Ike.

...Wait a second, Olimar is the worst? Heh...

 

[-Linko-]

The Original Post can be summariced as this:

Marth tier:
Marth

Crap tier:
everyone else

oh, and TIRES DON EXITS

 

[Roy-Kun]

The Original Post can be summariced as this:

Marth tier:
Marth

Crap tier:
everyone else

oh, and TIRES DON EXITS

The tier is a lie.

Way to go!