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My vision is that this thread will be a reliable place to view the board specific matchups without having to search each character board for their opinions. This will be just like IvanEva's, but will only include matchup info from the character specfic boards' matchup threads. The posts in this thread will only be links to updated matchup threads and the characters that have been updated.Don't bother telling me that so and so has the advantage over so and so if the character specific matchup threads say otherwise. Go to THOSE threads to discuss them. If there's any disagreement among different character boards regarding a matchup, I'll leave it blank. If they agree, we're getting somewhere.
Also, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE MY THOUGHTS ON THE MATCHUPS. IT'S BOARD SPECIFIC ONLY.
How to read the colors:
30/70-10/90(Red)
-big disadvantage
40/60-35/65(Orange)-disadvantage
55/45-45/55(Yellow)
-even
60/40-65/35(Green)
-advantage
70/30-90/10(Blue)
-big advantage
Exceptions!(only one currently)
1.) There are matchups that are agreed to be advantaged for a certain character, but are disagreed to what extent. These matchups are left at a small advantage.
(Ex. It's agreed that Kirby has the advantage over Falco. The Kirby boards say it's a small disadvantage for Falco, but the Falco boards have it at 70-30. I put the matchup as a small disadvantage.) Reason being, this chart takes into account what the boards agree to. In this case, they agree to an advantage for Kirby. They agree about who has the advantage over who. Our goal is to come to a consensus about who has the advantages, neutrals, and disadvantages against what characters. The matchups that are solidly recognized to be heavily disadvantaged for a character are included in this chart. That's what's important.
"The metagame will constantly evolve, but whether a match is easy, average, or hard will not unless some serious changes are made. The balance of power in a matchup might change slightly... but not much without the discovery of a chaingrab, new AT, or other such thing. So... you can read "this match is average" and know that while it may be less in ROB's favor than other 'average" matches, they all fit the same pool."
-Overswarm, in his R.O.B. guide
Sheik/Zelda:
In this chart, Sheik/Zelda means the best combination of using Sheik and Zelda against a certain character. The same goes for Pokemon Trainer.
Tip:
Since the chart is so big, I suggest pressing F11 to take away the taskbar and other internet browsing options. It'll make the screen bigger, and the chart more viewable.
-thanks
Matchup Threads
Bowser- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=6167643#post6167643
Captain Falcon- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=4749443#post4749443
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=157979&page=226
Charizard- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5117869
Diddy Kong- http://smashboards.com./showthread.php?t=181638
Donkey Kong- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=193883
Falco- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=167202
Fox- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=186742
Game & Watch- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174763
Ganondorf- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=191143
Ice Climbers- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188700
Ike- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=189813
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=203904
Ivysaur- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5117869
Jigglypuff- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=210009
King Dedede- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=192600
Kirby- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=195032
Link- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5436219
Lucario- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=176912
Lucas- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=183767
Luigi- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=190139
Mario-http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=212008
Marth- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=186736
Meta Knight-http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=179463
Ness- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188116
Peach- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=178193
Pikachu- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174335
Pikman & Olimar- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=185014
Pit- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=212541
R.O.B.- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199016
Samus- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=183602
Sheik- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174741
Snake- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=175515
Sonic- http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=5201273&postcount=3
Squirtle- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5117869
Toon Link- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=182155
Wario- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=196010
Wolf- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188329
Yoshi- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=201922
Zelda- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174741
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=190698
Zero Suit Samus- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=176928
Very Special Thanks!
-Zamz created the chart.
-Adapt provided tons of matchup data that he has been collecting.
-the SWF communtiy for their help!
Also, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE MY THOUGHTS ON THE MATCHUPS. IT'S BOARD SPECIFIC ONLY.
How to read the colors:
30/70-10/90(Red)
-----
40/60-35/65(Orange)-disadvantage
55/45-45/55(Yellow)
--
60/40-65/35(Green)
--
70/30-90/10(Blue)
----
Exceptions!(only one currently)
1.) There are matchups that are agreed to be advantaged for a certain character, but are disagreed to what extent. These matchups are left at a small advantage.
(Ex. It's agreed that Kirby has the advantage over Falco. The Kirby boards say it's a small disadvantage for Falco, but the Falco boards have it at 70-30. I put the matchup as a small disadvantage.) Reason being, this chart takes into account what the boards agree to. In this case, they agree to an advantage for Kirby. They agree about who has the advantage over who. Our goal is to come to a consensus about who has the advantages, neutrals, and disadvantages against what characters. The matchups that are solidly recognized to be heavily disadvantaged for a character are included in this chart. That's what's important.
"The metagame will constantly evolve, but whether a match is easy, average, or hard will not unless some serious changes are made. The balance of power in a matchup might change slightly... but not much without the discovery of a chaingrab, new AT, or other such thing. So... you can read "this match is average" and know that while it may be less in ROB's favor than other 'average" matches, they all fit the same pool."
-Overswarm, in his R.O.B. guide
Sheik/Zelda:
In this chart, Sheik/Zelda means the best combination of using Sheik and Zelda against a certain character. The same goes for Pokemon Trainer.
Tip:
Since the chart is so big, I suggest pressing F11 to take away the taskbar and other internet browsing options. It'll make the screen bigger, and the chart more viewable.
-thanks
Matchup Threads
Bowser- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=6167643#post6167643
Captain Falcon- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=4749443#post4749443
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=157979&page=226
Charizard- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5117869
Diddy Kong- http://smashboards.com./showthread.php?t=181638
Donkey Kong- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=193883
Falco- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=167202
Fox- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=186742
Game & Watch- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174763
Ganondorf- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=191143
Ice Climbers- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188700
Ike- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=189813
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=203904
Ivysaur- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5117869
Jigglypuff- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=210009
King Dedede- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=192600
Kirby- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=195032
Link- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5436219
Lucario- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=176912
Lucas- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=183767
Luigi- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=190139
Mario-http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=212008
Marth- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=186736
Meta Knight-http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=179463
Ness- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188116
Peach- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=178193
Pikachu- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174335
Pikman & Olimar- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=185014
Pit- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=212541
R.O.B.- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199016
Samus- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=183602
Sheik- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174741
Snake- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=175515
Sonic- http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=5201273&postcount=3
Squirtle- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5117869
Toon Link- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=182155
Wario- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=196010
Wolf- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188329
Yoshi- http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=201922
Zelda- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174741
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=190698
Zero Suit Samus- http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=176928
Very Special Thanks!
-Zamz created the chart.
-Adapt provided tons of matchup data that he has been collecting.
-the SWF communtiy for their help!