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[Divinokage]

Ok so I will drop a preemptive.. Marth doesn't suck, stfu about your character. =)

 

[Construct]

Kinda bummed M2K didn't win Zenith, but he still had some legit Marth footage for us. Some great dittos with PP, and a real nice JV 4 stock on PP's Falco. Plenty of goodies, they'll be up soon according to chibo

 

[MT_]

So anyone want to explain how M2K got dair shined like 500 times on the last match on FD lol.

 

[~Twitch~]

So anyone want to explain how M2K got dair shined like 500 times on the last match on FD lol.

ppppfffffchchcchch

 

[Zoler]

**** I'm so depressed =(

 

[Bones0]

You need to DI that **** off stage before you get above 40% or something. After that you just have to mix up your DI. M2K DI'd straight across the stage, and then straight back the other way. That's pretty much the only way to get combo'd like that.

 

[Fregadero]

Shoutouts to PP for taking on the Marth ditto. Twice.

 

[Dr Peepee]

Yo switching characters in tourney is harder than I thought it'd be <.<

Oh well my Marth GOT OFF on Hbox in our friendlies(yeah friendlies whatever still cool). All of my theory worked out pretty much perfectly, and I'm pretty happy about it. =) Rising Fair is the truth.

Now to study the Marth ditto videos LOL

 

[Tee ay eye]

i will be sorely disappointed if i don't see a wall of text from you sometime in the near future

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Rising Fair is the truth.

 

[Dr Peepee]

@Tai: on puff? I can do that. Confirm though please so I don't write a lot for nothing lol.

 

[Beat!]

Please do a write-up on Puff.

Bonus point if you mention fthrow pivot fsmash in every other sentence.

 

[Dr Peepee]

I have gotten 4 of those in my many attempts at them, but they all killed iirc. =)

I'll do some write up on Puff then. Tomorrow or the day after or Thursday(toooo tired today lol). I'm kinda busy this entire week because I put everything off until after Zenith lol.

 

[Niko45]

Holy **** that pop off PP!

I'm tight but I respect it.

 

[Dr Peepee]

LOOOOL hey man you know how it is.

EC is cool, def lookin forward to goin back.

 

[AustinRC]

Hey Doctor. Get on AIM I've been in the lab and we need to talk about some stuff...... >.>

 

[Dr Peepee]

No AIM today I'm sleepin soon lol

 

[AustinRC]

No AIM today I'm sleepin soon lol

But.... But...........

 

[OverLord]

If you time it right and with some Shield-DI you can Shield-drop>Uair Falco/Fox during their shield-pressure.

Pretty cool.

 

[Wenbobular]

Why does it require you to shield DI
Are you worried about getting hit by the shine? I think shield drop Uair is fast enough that that is mostly a non-issue

 

[Fregadero]

If I learned one thing this weekend its that ftilt is underused and it ***** floaties. I love it on the edge. I was hitting better players by just spacing it out of wd.

 

[Dr Peepee]

Ftilt is most definitely underused. Works so well with walking and WD'ing and other things that doesn't happen too much with my Marth game now that used to happen for me.

 

[knightpraetor]

kind of agree with boat edge..and i have pp's problem where it's disappearing from my game..i think it's cause lately i mostly play vs spacies and then i forget to insert it vs floaties

 

[Dr Peepee]

Something that helps me remember to Ftilt is that I severely outrange characters and I don't need to always be moving quickly to do it. Moving slowly but confidently works and even messes with people because EVERYONE runs now.

Ftilt works out soooo well then. Seriously.

 

[Fregadero]

If you ever watch G$'s Marth he uses walk REALLY well. Its so fast as marth that unless you're dd'ing or rushing to the other side of the stage its a better idea to walk imo.

 

[Niko45]

walking *****

standing still ***** harder

 

[Tee ay eye]

walking is pretty sweet because you get to adjust your spacing in very very small increments with no lag or commitment while having ALL of your options available to you

i remember having a dream one time (i **** you not) where i absolutely ***** a luigi player by walking a lot with my dtilts (as opposed to full WDs and dashing) to thwart his attempts to ruin my spacing with their WD shenanigans.... i haven't gotten to test this in an actual match yet, though.

 

[Fregadero]

Damn dream theorycrafting? Thats hardcore.

M2k was getting really good use out of neut b in the air yesterday.

 

[Winston]

I don't think you can react perfectly enough to wd approaches to make that your entire gameplan. That's just counter-theorycrafting though.

vs Luigi I just dd space like he's a falcon who might full distance sh aerial at me and it works pretty decently

 

[Tee ay eye]

i meant that i walked around to supplement my DDing and WDing

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I treat luigi like an ICs that doesn't do anything too bad to me with grabs

 

[Niko45]

I treat luigi like a top tier cause he is if he hits you.

 

[Dr Peepee]

Luigi has no range and his WD is pretty telegraphed(useless at most normal WD speeds even), so I just get in tipper Fair range and start messing around there and the hits usually come.

It's not like he can jump or anything really. He can Fair kinda but that's mostly irrelevant if you space correctly.

 

[OverLord]

Why does it require you to shield DI
Are you worried about getting hit by the shine? I think shield drop Uair is fast enough that that is mostly a non-issue

Yep I know but it happened a couple of times the shine hit me, and with Shield-DI it just never happens.

Also, Shield-drop>Counter after the shine during pressure, it actually worked, way faster than Counter-OoS, which is almost useless due to low speed and better options.

 

[knightpraetor]

want to see a set of pp or m2k vs luigi. do they exist? nvm: found one

really should take the time to get my shield dropping above 50% by practicing it in training mode....but i'm off to korea soon so it will have to wait till late august. Marth boards continue to regale me with stories while I'm wishing that South Korea had a melee scene. Do you think koreandj would know some people i could play there? does anyone have his IM?

 

[S0FT]

I think that there is a small scene there. When I went last year I know there was like 6 others I only got to play one of them though, because I didnt stay for too long. But its nice because its relatively easy to get to places there.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=295750&page=40

I played Ray, and he was pretty cool. He said everyone else was pretty cool too.

 

[Niko45]

Streaming tonight: http://www.twitch.tv/niko453

not playing right away but hoping to get some Marth in at some point

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Ray chun lives in south korea and is from chicago. He used to be decent though i havent played him in 2 years

 

[knightpraetor]

oh dang. If sveet thinks he is decent things might get exciting. Smash isn't something you really forget that much unless you just totally stop playing for a long time. i don't know how anyone can stop playing for over a month or two though:\

 

[MT_]

Lol Dart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BlN4sqFi1Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=322s