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Great, more ****. For once this looks like it could change the game completely. You practically have Smash with Tekken's mobility options.So, what characters do you guys think would benefit the most from bidou techs if mastered?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mH528Pdh1Rk
Uhh wow, pretty much everyone.So, what characters do you guys think would benefit the most from bidou techs if mastered?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mH528Pdh1Rk
A lot of this you can do without needing to set it up as such.This sort of thing can hold people back from competitive Smash, i.e. "I need to become intuitive with this specific awkward control scheme or else I'm handicapping myself and might as well not play at all". Interesting for those who don't mind it though.
I'm aware, but without this the learning process is gradual, with this it's a single step and ultimately what you have to do if you really want to make use of these things consistently.A lot of this you can do without needing to set it up as such.
This just makes it frame perfect.
Wait, TRIFROZE IS HERE!? Well damn! And also, I made this thread becasue I know I won't even be attempting this any time soon, but I expected a lot more to agree with me. Wow, never realized how far the smsh community would go for bettering their gameplay! ^.^I'm aware, but without this the learning process is gradual, with this it's a single step and ultimately what you have to do if you really want to make use of these things consistently.
Same. And I would need to know how actually difficult it is to get used to. Hm... Now thinking about it, I might give it a try. But when ZeRo picks it up, HA! Good luck to anyone else trying to win a tournament!I really need to see this tech in a real situation
I have to disagree with this in practice. Learning this highly unconventional control set-up comes with a huge opportunity cost. For some characters which don't benefit greatly from this technique ( might be the worst at using it), it would be a better investment to dedicate your practice to improving other aspects of your gameplay rather than getting used to wonky controls.Uhh wow, pretty much everyone.
This technique takes advantage of Smash 4's buffering system (see Shaya's post), so I doubt it'd be very easy to patch out. Changes to the buffering system would do a whole lot more than just remove this one technique. It doesn't look problematic for competitive gameplay anyway, so I don't see why Nintendo would feel the need to patch it out.My big concern with this is that it might get patched out. Would be a huge shame to dedicate so much time getting used to new controllers, on a new controller, just to have it removed in a few months.
Fairly certain Ranai already uses it. Hence his ability to pp so easily across stages, and his flower pot tosses at ledge.I really need to see this tech in a real situation
ranai uses a default GC controller setup so he doesnt do any biduo tech, just normal stuffFairly certain Ranai already uses it. Hence his ability to pp so easily across stages, and his flower pot tosses at ledge.
Agreed.I'm aware, but without this the learning process is gradual, with this it's a single step and ultimately what you have to do if you really want to make use of these things consistently.
I sat in the training room for awhile messing with this and it was absolutely INSANE. I could instantly perfect pivot across stages with no problems and the amount of movement options I gained access to was ludicrous. Sadly I've been playing Ryu lately and there is no way to accommodate for tilt stick with Bidou :/So, what characters do you guys think would benefit the most from bidou techs if mastered?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mH528Pdh1Rk
I agree but this control scheme seems wildly unwieldly and like, I'm not sure how efficient or effective it would be on anything but a Pro Controller and since the majority uses GC controllers it's a bit of an issue.I doubt Ryu at high level will use this as tilt stick is essentially a must for him at this point.
I can see Cloud being even more monstrous with perfect dash dancing, combined with perfect pivot cross slashes in footsies and perfect pivot dtilt slides to counter poke empty jump-ins and whiffed short hop approaches. Not to mention perfect pivot f-smashes to bait and punish the smallest whiffs.
You need both thumbs. And means of accessing the attack buttons, something of which can't be done on a pro controller without giving up the right stick.I don't get it, why the hell do you even need that specific control scheme if it seemed to boil down to "Hold the Special Button while you do stuff with the Second Stick also set to Special".
And it's not like I can even train this, I still play Smash Beta.
These techs already exist and are fully possible with any control scheme. Bidou just makes it frame perfect.I don't get it, why the hell do you even need that specific control scheme if it seemed to boil down to "Hold the Special Button while you do stuff with the Second Stick also set to Special".
And it's not like I can even train this, I still play Smash Beta.
I feel exactly the same way. I guess it's just the way the information was presented this time is more popular.Ok, now I'm so pissed. I discussed about the original japanese video and everyone was like "lmao this is dumb and useless" and now it is considered a possible game-changing mechanic? What the hell.