Kayzee
Smash Journeyman
Maybe this will make people think twice about using bananas against Diddy. Maybe this will make projectile spammers think twice as well. I'm sure going to use this.
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Banana-Canceled Rocketbarrel Boost (with projectile list)
- Thread starter kamekasu
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~^.NoiR.^~
Smash Ace
All they have to do is shield it...it's a good way to rack up %s on yourself though.
kamekasu
Smash Ace
They have both a banana and a rocketbarrel coming at the same time. obviously it's not going to do damage, but it limits their approach as their forced to shield.
You don't do any damage to yourself. There's no reason not to do this when you're up on stocks and have nothing to lose.
~^.NoiR.^~
Smash Ace
uh you risk letting the other player having a come back TRYING to KO with a rocket. What is the logic in that? Unless it's for fun.
Player-1
Smash Legend
Agreed with Noir, the Pikachu came back from 70% to 120%? I watched the video yesterday so I don't remember completely, but it didn't seem to help a lot
Popertop
Smash Champion
THe more attention/research we put into this, the more likely we'll be able to find a way to control it.
kamekasu
Smash Ace
Didn't you hear what they were saying? Even if you don't understand Japanese, the tone of their voice makes it pretty clear it's just a friendly. The video was for the purpose of demonstration, as was made clear. It was to prove how easy it is to cancel your barrels. The video was made only a few hours after Gano figured out how to do the technique. With practice, do you really think it will be that awkward to use it?
~^.NoiR.^~
Smash Ace
Whats the difference if neutral B's are hitting you in a friendly or a serious match? lol does the damage change?
Realistically, it's not a very useful technique.
kamekasu
Smash Ace
The fact that it was a friendly meant that he wasn't using it defensively or for mindgames, but just to mess around with his opponent. Used conservatively, the neutral B wouldn't hit you. Either way, the normal Rocketbarrel cancel has been known for a while. The point was to show the BCR. This is not a match-deciding technique. It's just fun to do.
Yea, I'm gonna start using barrals to counter projectiles like Pit's arrows/pika's thingy.
What other projectiles discharge the rockets? Falco's doesn't.
So far I know:
Pit's arrows
Peach's turnips
Pikachu's jolts
What other projectiles discharge the rockets? Falco's doesn't.
So far I know:
Pit's arrows
Peach's turnips
Pikachu's jolts
~^.NoiR.^~
Smash Ace
kamekasu
Smash Ace
Just because it's fun to do doesn't mean it's useless.
It's called mindgames. And playing defensively.
denizen
Smash Apprentice
i am def working on putting this into my game right now...and i can say that it can be useful
My freind **** himself as a rocket flew at him today from chucking a banana at me, it was funny but most of the time the banana is too close to the enemy to attempt. It's a good way to get killed by chargin at a banana with a recovery.
Diddyknight
Smash Lord
i cant do it...T.T its hard... even though my friend through down the nanaers, i just fly Up instead of discharging.... my friend has also tried wit DD and me as DD. nio work.. any tips on how to do it correcrtly?
o i also stand close to tehe nana and try not the slip but i do T.T
o i also stand close to tehe nana and try not the slip but i do T.T
ice_cream_man
Smash Journeyman
so can you use this when the opponent actually throws it? and what about like wolf's laser? i know falco's doesn't.
Popertop
Smash Champion
so pretty much something with "physical" properties?
would that include waddle dees?
FS Fantom
Free Saltines
We need a list of things that cause the barrels to fly off.
For instance, Mario/Luigi fireballs...do they do it?
For instance, Mario/Luigi fireballs...do they do it?
ice_cream_man
Smash Journeyman
as soon as i get to my wii i'll do testing on every projectile and come back w/ a list of the projectiles that will and won't work. i'll do it tomorrow.
oscarmayerweiner
Smash Rookie
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so is there a list for what this works on yet?
Blistering Speed
Smash Champion
Holy freaking god!! I love that so much!!
Ingulit
Ing-u-lit
Holy God, it's the best day ever T.T
This is more epic than words can describe. INCREDIBLE find!
This is more epic than words can describe. INCREDIBLE find!
thumbswayup
Smash Master
Great find. I tried it for about 5 minutes and couldn't do it. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I'll give it another try later.
psike
Smash Apprentice
This is one more technique diddy can use to edge guard, what a machine.
JonBeBonanza
Smash Lord
>_<
Am i imagining things or can you control the barrels when they're a wall. Because one time my friend missed the upB and the barrels came lose and i said " dude you can control them with the joy stick" and he was like "ok"... i thought i was lying but the we were playing a 4 FFA and his diddy went down w/ the barrels loose, and he hit my other friend and won and said " good thing you told me about controlling them [barrels]".
So can you control the barrels? Or is it just to early for me?
Am i imagining things or can you control the barrels when they're a wall. Because one time my friend missed the upB and the barrels came lose and i said " dude you can control them with the joy stick" and he was like "ok"... i thought i was lying but the we were playing a 4 FFA and his diddy went down w/ the barrels loose, and he hit my other friend and won and said " good thing you told me about controlling them [barrels]".
So can you control the barrels? Or is it just to early for me?
Neb
Smash Lord
Heat-seeking barrels, ftw. But from my own personal experience, I've had the barrel literally chase my character after gimping Diddy, I think it may just be a coincidence.
JonBeBonanza
Smash Lord
Edoksil
Smash Rookie
I tried this a few times and couldn't get it to work. I thought I was as close to the banana as I could be without tripping but I guess not. I would love to be able to master this and just freak people out. No one would know wtf to do.
kamekasu
Smash Ace
It is a coincidence, the barrels will always fly in the direction of your opponent.
It takes a bit of practice, but this is much more useful than deploying the barrels against your opponents' projectiles because you will not take any damage.
Edited the first post with ice_cream_man's list of projectiles.
eMORAY21
Smash Journeyman
Useless but pretty sweet
ice_cream_man
Smash Journeyman
oh two more projectile's that work are snake's up smash and zamus's suit parts. i just didn't try those my first attempt. also, i know that I added them to the list but I'm not sure if wario's waft and sheik's chain are technically projectiles. my bad about those and thanks for the credit.
YUNq PHR3$H
Smash Journeyman
dont forget diddy kong's nanerz xD
Luigi player
Smash Master
Why did you bump this thread?
Diddy has heavy armor in his upB while charging. I think Diddy can take 3 % damage attacks (doesn't matter how often you hit him), but everything that does more than 3 % (including decimals, so 3.001 will also hit him out) will hit him out of it =/
Charizards flamethrower will not hit Diddy out of his upB when Diddy starts at 0 %. After Diddy has got enough damage he will get hit out of it though. I think it's about 65 %... but only if he's near enough. If he's far enough away from Charizard he won't get hit out of it...
He will never get hit out of upB from Falcos lasers though, not even at 100+ %. Strange.
Diddy has heavy armor in his upB while charging. I think Diddy can take 3 % damage attacks (doesn't matter how often you hit him), but everything that does more than 3 % (including decimals, so 3.001 will also hit him out) will hit him out of it =/
Charizards flamethrower will not hit Diddy out of his upB when Diddy starts at 0 %. After Diddy has got enough damage he will get hit out of it though. I think it's about 65 %... but only if he's near enough. If he's far enough away from Charizard he won't get hit out of it...
He will never get hit out of upB from Falcos lasers though, not even at 100+ %. Strange.
CHOMPY
Sinbad: King of Sindria
its still a good refresher for the players who completly forgot about abusing Diddy Kongs Rocketbarrel. There were times where I forgot to use the Rocket Barrel against a spammy Pikachu with thunderjolts and it cost me the match because of that. Not to mention we were playing in Lylat Cruise
o.o dude a free 18-35% should always be on ur mind man O-o especially against projectile whores like the links and pickachu. should be always on ur mind as long with when someone has ur nanners as well.
CHOMPY
Sinbad: King of Sindria
as long as you dont rely on rocketbarreling to much and be able to anticipate whats coming. If you rocket barrel before the player shoots out the projectile your screwed because that player will combo you like crazy from here on out. Eventually the player will stop spamming the projectiles and they could airdodge if they have a quick reaction to the barrels flying at your face.
mindgames is the only key here mate. because likewise when im facing diddy dittos i hold their bananas and they will expect me to throw it. i dnt. they rocketbarrel into the sky. then **** o-o. its all mindgames and being unpredictible. otherwise case close and ty for reminder :3 it should spark some new diddy minds about this tech.