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[Gadiel_VaStar]

Key is not safe to land with. It's good, but by no means are you safe every time (this is no 2008 lol). For landing I'd try fast and slowfall dair, b-reversals and just plain airdodging. UpBing out of the way of the opponent is very useful too.

Key is pretty safe lol. My friend AML?'s G&W constantly uses slow land, and then does slow Key, then fast Key when I think I can just shield his slow Key. I guess it depends on the matchup. Pit can't do much about it, lol.

 

[Alphicans]

Pit can utilt through key I believe.

 

[Makke]

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[Gardex]

In a direct clash, G&W's key will win.

But Pit's uair has more horizontal reach, which means that he can stay away from the key's hitbox while still being able to hit us.

Dunno about utilt, no Pit has ever tried doing it against my dair.

 

[Alphicans]

^ This about dair vs uair.

I've never had it done to me either, but a couple of pits (krystedez and raven) told me during the m/u chart discussion that he could do it. Unless I am not remembering exactly what they were talking about.

 

[Makke]

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[Publix]

ya'll seen this? http://www.youtube.com/user/ssbbmania1#p/search/2/_NNjZ5QQ6bA crazy huh?

 

[SFA Smiley]

Yeah that's been known for some time

 

[UTDZac]

Smiley, can you explain to me how it works?

 

[Alphicans]

ya'll seen this? http://www.youtube.com/user/ssbbmania1#p/search/2/_NNjZ5QQ6bA crazy huh?

I made a thread on that .

 

[SFA Smiley]

Smiley, can you explain to me how it works?

I dont know the mechanics I just figured it was the overlapping hitboxes of thunder instafilling. It

 

[Publix]

I made a thread on that .

I know of your thread, i tried to post it there, but i thought yours was only about pika being on a platform. in that video he is not on a platform, so i freaked ma junk when i saw it.

 

[Alphicans]

I linked that video in my thread too lol. It's the same thing really, except that it's actually doable/useable on a platform, whereas on the ground it's nearly impossible to set up right the first time.

 

[Sush1]

Does GnW's weight really hinder him? He's the second lightest character of them all. Now i don't know if i should continue playing with him and getting better, just to get Ko'ed at 90%

 

[Alphicans]

He has bucket braking. Look it up... It makes up for this light weight (horizontally at least).

 

[overgamer]

Also don't forget he can kill most of the cast very early, so that compensate the need to reach astronomical damage before attempting a kill.

 

[-LzR-]

Bucket braking and a great recovery more than make up for our light weight. Totally not a problem.

 

[SFA Smiley]

Most of the time. It can be pretty frustrating to die that early if you atent used to it.

 

[Sky Pirate]

This one might be kind of vague and annoying, but what do you fine people think of the Olimar-G&W team?
By that, I mean the mindset the G&W should have, roles, gimmicks, stages that G&W prefers in doubles, etc.

 

[Alphicans]

My static doubles partner is a oli/pika main so I know a lot about this team.

GaW should be reacting to what olimar does, and trying to keep the perfect distance away from him. If you're too close you both can accidentally kill each other, and if you're too far the olimar is going to get double teamed.

I find that vs a double MK team, the MKs usually always double team the olimar, because he's a lot easier to juggle and gimp. It's now your job to punish the MK players effectively as possible, and prevent oli from dying. The GaW should think of himself as an MK, but with less pressure options but high kill power.

A shared trait both of you have is the low kill power, so you should both be wanting to punish them for hitting your teammate with a beefy smash attack, or some sort of high damaging combo (GaW has nair to nair, oli has grab combos etc.)

 

[SFA Smiley]

A really risky Gimmick I can think of is letting Olimar load GW up with Pikmin and GW spamming Up-smash.

Don't try it against anyone good though lol, use it for flair on people you know you'll beat

 

[-LzR-]

As we all know, GW owns in RC. I wanna know how. Should I play similar to MK? Plank the ship then run away the other parts while trying to make the opponents life hard?

 

[Alphicans]

Stalling on the ship is a good idea vs some characters, but that part of the stage is really good for GaW vs most of the rest. I'd say vs diddy, MK, snake and falco you can plank the ship, and then wreck them on the rest of the stage.

GaW really shines on the scrolling up part because you can pretty much always be below your opponent, juggle them consistently and get really low % kills with traps into smashes or even uair off the ceiling (this happens so much more often than you'd think vs MK).

 

[-LzR-]

All right. GW is like me secondary for all the cool stages so I guess I should learn that.
How about Brinstar? Should I ban it against DK and Wario or can GW do it there in case they pick it up?
What else can I do instead of just abusing extended hitboxes there?

 

[Alphicans]

Shark the stage. If you break the middle eggs by slow fall dairing, you can use it to shark whenever you want, which is really great pressure. Dthrow on the platforms are really good because dsmash limits a ton of options.

 

[-LzR-]

Ok thanks. Will try that next weekend.

 

[Lightning Tiger]

Can someone explain sharking?
I've been gone for a while.
Also can someone link me the falco match up link?

 

[-LzR-]

Just attack below the stage.
Nair and uair are the best for that. It's pretty safe thing to do.

 

[Triforce Of Chozo]

For Brinstar imagine all your ******** gimmicks on other stages and multiply them by ten.

 

[-LzR-]

G&W against Diddy Kong.

What the hell do I do against that sideB? It has crazy priority and it's so safe and he can mix it up with an aerial grab D:
And what should I try to do when I get one of his bananas?

 

[Gardex]

Glidetoss into 9 hammer.

Because that's what the cool kids do.

 

[-LzR-]

Yeah, but what can I do that actually works more than 1/7 times?

 

[SFA Smiley]

Glidetoss upsmash is legit. But I played a diddy last tournet that didnt lemme attmpt it. I think its better to just hold onto it. Throwing nanas back at diddy seems like a bad idea. I have a vid of the match if you want... but I get worked. And if you read the side b just use bair

 

[-LzR-]

How do I glidetoss against Diddy without getting punished? Our Glidetoss is laggy and Diddy Kongs will easily punish it.

 

[SFA Smiley]

Because when they get hit witv the nana they trip into the upsmash. I did it to darklink the first time I played him actually lol. But its gimmicky and diddy wont let you. Id just hold on to the nana or keep it behind you. Diddy only gets hard when he has both. Imo of course

 

[-LzR-]

He can easily just shield the naner and punish us. Glide toss is so predictable against Diddy.

 

[SFA Smiley]

Which is why im saying dont do it. I only mentioned it in response. Just hold on to the nana and limit his stage control

 

[-LzR-]

Oh, I thought you were saying I should be using it a lot.

 

[Grox]

What is the easiest way to collect the projectiles in Game and Watches trash can? I can never get 3 projectiles in it.

 

[overgamer]

What is the easiest way to collect the projectiles in Game and Watches trash can? I can never get 3 projectiles in it.

Against smart people, you'll probably never be able to collect enough anyway, because once they realise they will fill your bucket, they will stop doing their projectile pressure game. Imo offstage against pit/falco, and randomly for pikachu, lucas/ness, and don't bother with fox, his lasers are lame to bucket at long range. At worse, they will force you to bucket thinking you're safe and punish you. Against Zss Dsmash... it's too riscky.