Xaile
Smash Cadet
This topic was mentioned briefly in the thread, "Fsmash while holding a bannana", but I figured it'd be better to start a new thread as to not derail that one further. There are a couple interesting ways you can do aerials instead of throwing a banana.
I was messing around earlier today against a CPU, and somehow managed to do an aerial while I was holding a banana. After looking back at the replay, I saw that the aerial happened right after I pulled out a second banana.
After looking further into it, it seems that every time you perform the down-B animation (regardless of whether or not you actually pulled out a banana or not), you can perform an aerial rather than throwing the banana once the animation is over.
The applications of something like this are limited, when considering the following:
a) You can't do this from a short hop; the animation of down-B is too long, and you hit the ground and throw a banana instead of performing an aerial.
b) This applies only in the air; trying to put an attack command after the down-B animation on the ground will only result in throwing the banana you have.
c) In many situations, it's much faster to throw the banana you have at them then aerial them, rather than do the long down-B animation.
However, being able to perform an aerial after the down-B animation rather than throwing a held banana can be somewhat (albeit situationally) useful, especially if you happen to be pulling out a second banana anyways.
From what I've been able to tell, none of the other B-moves have this same effect.
Something else also can be done that replicates the effects of performing an aerial while holding a banana. All the information that I got on this next technique I got from the Link Forums, specifically Izaw's The Art of Link (take a look at 5:40 of his video, listed in the video as ZAC (Z-Drop, A-Attack, Catch)).
What is described in his Link video is how you can drop a bomb, then immediatly use an aerial that simultaneously functions to pick the bomb back up, essentially performing an aerial while still holding the bomb.
Well, it turns out that Diddy Kong can do the same thing with a banana. As you approach the peak of your jump, press Z to drop the banana you have then immediately perform an aerial (C-stick works great). What happens is that your aerial attack picks up the banana you just dropped, performing the attack and ending with the banana in your hand. If done fast enough, you can hardly tell you dropped the banana at all (except for the sound effect of picking it back up).
However, due to the differences in Diddy's Falling speed an a banana's falling speed, this can only be done during/around the peak of the jump. Doing while Diddy is still going up will drop the banana too low for your aerial to pick it back up. Conversely, doing it after the peak of the jump will leave the banana too high to pick it back up, as Diddy falls faster than the banana.
The uses of this method of doing aerials with a banana would seem to be much greater than the previous. It works from any type of jump (short hop, full jump, or double jump), as long as it is roughly at the peak of the jump.
Hopefully this information will be useful, and I apologize if it's already known.
(All the information I got about the second technique I got from Izaw's Thread/Video in the Link forums, http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=167650. It's described at 5:40 on his video.)
I was messing around earlier today against a CPU, and somehow managed to do an aerial while I was holding a banana. After looking back at the replay, I saw that the aerial happened right after I pulled out a second banana.
After looking further into it, it seems that every time you perform the down-B animation (regardless of whether or not you actually pulled out a banana or not), you can perform an aerial rather than throwing the banana once the animation is over.
The applications of something like this are limited, when considering the following:
a) You can't do this from a short hop; the animation of down-B is too long, and you hit the ground and throw a banana instead of performing an aerial.
b) This applies only in the air; trying to put an attack command after the down-B animation on the ground will only result in throwing the banana you have.
c) In many situations, it's much faster to throw the banana you have at them then aerial them, rather than do the long down-B animation.
However, being able to perform an aerial after the down-B animation rather than throwing a held banana can be somewhat (albeit situationally) useful, especially if you happen to be pulling out a second banana anyways.
From what I've been able to tell, none of the other B-moves have this same effect.
Something else also can be done that replicates the effects of performing an aerial while holding a banana. All the information that I got on this next technique I got from the Link Forums, specifically Izaw's The Art of Link (take a look at 5:40 of his video, listed in the video as ZAC (Z-Drop, A-Attack, Catch)).
What is described in his Link video is how you can drop a bomb, then immediatly use an aerial that simultaneously functions to pick the bomb back up, essentially performing an aerial while still holding the bomb.
Well, it turns out that Diddy Kong can do the same thing with a banana. As you approach the peak of your jump, press Z to drop the banana you have then immediately perform an aerial (C-stick works great). What happens is that your aerial attack picks up the banana you just dropped, performing the attack and ending with the banana in your hand. If done fast enough, you can hardly tell you dropped the banana at all (except for the sound effect of picking it back up).
However, due to the differences in Diddy's Falling speed an a banana's falling speed, this can only be done during/around the peak of the jump. Doing while Diddy is still going up will drop the banana too low for your aerial to pick it back up. Conversely, doing it after the peak of the jump will leave the banana too high to pick it back up, as Diddy falls faster than the banana.
The uses of this method of doing aerials with a banana would seem to be much greater than the previous. It works from any type of jump (short hop, full jump, or double jump), as long as it is roughly at the peak of the jump.
Hopefully this information will be useful, and I apologize if it's already known.
(All the information I got about the second technique I got from Izaw's Thread/Video in the Link forums, http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=167650. It's described at 5:40 on his video.)