Please dont confuse me with a troll but from what I've read here one of the main issues with roy is that players who use him are not even close to high level of play. Still Im not going to brag or anything just keep learning the fundamentals of melee... Spacing, Edguarding, Pivot, mix ups, grabs, learn to read tech chases, learn how to exploit every character recovery etc etc.
If you all master that Roy will begin to rank higher. Take pikachu, Doc, Ganon, Yoshi, Luigi, etc some dudes decided to learn the fundamentals, practice with dudes that play on a really high level and with experience now you see in tournaments Ganon, Luigi, Yoshi, Pikachu and Doc to place high.
Where Im from there is a guy who is a beast with Link and I though hey maybe we are all crap and that is why he sometimes win.
But then he went to apex and pound and ***** a lot of people and went toe to toe with the big guys.
I personally dont believe that much in tiers so props to all of you for not giving up on roy
I do acknowledge that roys knock back sucks with certain hit angle and is hard to kill on a really high percentage.
But hey, he still has a good anti air with inv framed of 9, meaning he can escape falcos pillars, fox pressure etc. if used below a high platform when you land on it its kind of safe and helps you escape pressure.
Here is an example but with marth hehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xsbLZq7AUII#t=13s
you can actually do this with roy out of shield and escape shield pressure. Roy will land on the middle platforms in yoshi story and fountain of dreams.
You cant spam it and you have to learn how to use it. But once you learn it, its really good. It wont kill like marth's but has more inv frames and can help you get out of spacies and sheik pressure, try it.
Roy also has one of the best grabs and range in the game
Roy can kill on low % so its a must you have to learn every match up, % wise too and how to punish. Believe me you can surprise many people with this
Has a good poke with range and speed, Pivot Dtilt is a must.
To punish moves and if you are blocking WD out of shield ( grab or Dtilt or Downsmash -hit with the first hit facing forward comes pretty fast and has a good knockback- )
and if a person has a high percentage and you cant kill, dont panic, roy still has speed, range and ways to escape pressure; use footsies to prevent getting damage and change to a run away/wall of defense and punish. His bair and nair are good for edge guarding and getting the magical hit you need to kill when the opponent is in a really high % his dancing blade to. Hell even B neutral ( with out holding) can put you in a great position
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Now for the topic of roy below middle platform...
My suggestions is, if you feel confident and they are on high %!! use bair, nair or if you really feel like it upair , land Fsmash.
If they are on a low % I just simply use the situation to rack more %, not to combo. I punish and read my opponents next move. Fore example and the best tool roy has ( marth also has it but since he can combo from below a platform Marth Players dont use it that much )
WL GRAB! then up throw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2s3eKZhyPg&feature=player_detailpage#t=155s
1- If they DI to the higher platform __-----__ then I follow up with another WL grab or I read his tech and Dtil or Fsmash. I they DI outside the edge, depending where I'm facing: either Jump Nair, or Jump Bair. Then after that if the opportunity rises I begin my edgeguard game. If not, I reset to an advantage position.
Like I said before learning the fundamentals will help you destroy your avarage player out there and will at least make you go toe to toe with top players.
Enjoy Roy and Keep it UP
If I get a vid done soon Ill upload it so you get ideas, I also have a good DK here in PR.
Keep what I said in mind or change to marth hehe
PS: I love playing with Roy on FoD and in yoshistory because of the platforms and I kill on low %, especially against Fox , Falco. what do you guys think?? DL and BF the platforms are too high...