Reconfirmed to be the same.
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3DS Community Patch Notes v1.0.4 -- Engine Changes to DI
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#HBC | Red Ryu
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Guys, stop posting stuff you "feel" or "seems like"
We are only accepting stuff that seems to be confirmed via in game testing.
We are only accepting stuff that seems to be confirmed via in game testing.
ZeroBlindDragon
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Void Reflector no longer kills Villager's tree!
ZeroBlindDragon
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[Whoops! This was a duplicate of my previous post. Forgive me! I have no idea how that happened. >_<]
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chaojimbo
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I hope I'm just not crazy but...
Fox:
• Up-tilt seemed to have less knockback (tested on Sheik) until about 60% when it slightly launched Sheik at an angled direction - the direction the kick goes over Fox's head.
• Returning Fox's blaster feels a couple frames quicker, though this is so minuscule that I think it might be a placebo effect.
• Bair fast-fall landing lag seems reduced? Again, placebo effect.
• Bair seems to require more percent to get the critical spark KO.
• Standard neutral-A kickjabbing has even more knockback?
I would really like confirmation with these! As someone that only plays Fox decently, I would like to know what to address!
Fox:
• Up-tilt seemed to have less knockback (tested on Sheik) until about 60% when it slightly launched Sheik at an angled direction - the direction the kick goes over Fox's head.
• Returning Fox's blaster feels a couple frames quicker, though this is so minuscule that I think it might be a placebo effect.
• Bair fast-fall landing lag seems reduced? Again, placebo effect.
• Bair seems to require more percent to get the critical spark KO.
• Standard neutral-A kickjabbing has even more knockback?
I would really like confirmation with these! As someone that only plays Fox decently, I would like to know what to address!
Sorry sorry, it's just that someone reported that earlier and I never explicitly saw it confirmed false.
We should probably include a timestamp on the OP so that it says "All confirmed changes as of _______" or something, then we'd know if something was posted before that but isn't on there, it's false.
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Okay, that's something.
#HBC | Red Ryu
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Falco's Down B custom, got it.
Side-by-side, it appears the same.
Keep in mind that Peach's aerials are now affected by stale moves while floating, which impacts dair follow-ups a lot.
chaojimbo
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Thank you. I guess it really was all placebo then. The up-tilt launch direction really tripped me out though because I've never seen someone get angled that far over Fox's head; it led right into an up-smash.Fox is unchanged.
DtJ Hilt
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Nevermind this!
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lijero13ss
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What numbers did you get to confirm this? Would like to know since i keep getting different knockback numbers for both versions
ZHMT
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Can the cooldown on Jigglypuffs tilts be tested?
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chaojimbo
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• Pikachu clipping glitch on Corneria and Unova Pokemon League (when stage is slanted) unpatched.
• Meta Knight clipping glitch on Unova Pokemon League (when stage is slanted) unpatched as well.
For those who have no idea what this is, I have some old thread about it somewhere that basically states:
"Using Pikachu's up-special can clip right through various stages."
Meta Knight's down-special has clipped for me only a few times, usually on Unova Pokemon League.
• Meta Knight clipping glitch on Unova Pokemon League (when stage is slanted) unpatched as well.
For those who have no idea what this is, I have some old thread about it somewhere that basically states:
"Using Pikachu's up-special can clip right through various stages."
Meta Knight's down-special has clipped for me only a few times, usually on Unova Pokemon League.
Confirmed same.
no, it still does, i tested them side by side, the range is exactly the same
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Confirming that Pit/Dark Pit can still fall through sloped surfaces with ledge attack as well.
I can confirm this as well.
trippletc
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Villagers rockets seem to move at a reduced speed and the angle seems to go downward more quickly- when not riding the rocket at all. Can anyone confirm this?
Unchanged to the best of my observation.
http://smashboards.com/threads/dr-mario-1-04-patch-changes.378502/#post-18014808
Dr. Mario patch changes!
Dr. Mario patch changes!
I am testing this changes now and cannot reproduce a single one of them.
I am getting no damage changes on anything except latch.
VivaReverie
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Whoop, have to call incorrect on this, or specifically the second half. The Full Charge is also affected, I did demonstrate that in my video (Here, 1:19).
- Paralyzer Shot's uncharged shot has a few more frames of recovery. Full charge is unaffected.
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Dabuz
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Can someone test Sonic's fsmash? It appears to have more cooldown but would like someone else with both 1.03 (or earlier) and 1.04 to confirm this.
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Also, I was in a For Glory match as DHD against Villager, he ate my can with pocket, but immediately afterwards I was able to use it again, meaning two could show up onscreen. Is this a change? I recall pocket used to be able to steal single-use projectiles before. I don't have my older version handy and even if I did this would be difficult to test out.
Hehe, thanks! I'm glad they buffed that, 'cause it was kinda stupidly weak. I think up tilt actually killed faster than uncharged up smash before now.
DtJ Hilt
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Thinkaman, are you not getting the damage changes for pre-patch or post-patch?
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I don't think it's changed. I tried pocketing ROB's down B just now and he couldn't use it afterwards.
IReidYou
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Dog was able to produce another can after villager pocketed one. Had an extensive set with a good villager before the patch dropped and definitely remembered this tidbit
All incorrect except the knockback buff on fair, and the lower damage and lower landing lag on dair.
DtJ Hilt
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Are you testing in training mode? I just tested in training mode and they're showing the old percentages. Myran and I used wifi to test, though.
Nothing new (dhd's can isn't considered as an item).
Fresh moves 105% bonus. No stale moves in training, it only shows raw.
Only ever use training mode for data collection.
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