2GGC: Greninja Saga Discussion

[Das Koopa]

Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/2ggaming

Brackets: https://smash.gg/tournament/2ggc-greninja-saga/events

Notable attendees;

ZeRo
Mr. R
Nairo
Ally
VoiD
Abadango
ANTi
komorikiri
Ranai
Tweek
Captain Zack
Mr. E
Locus
Samsora
Rich Brown
Elegant
Falln
Tyrant
NAKAT
FOW

All the frogs:

Some
iStudying
Oisiitofu
Elexiao
Lea
Shiki
Tampra
Waveguider
NinjaLink
Venia
Stroder
Donquavious
Akashic
Nova!
IceArrow
Shinejoebi
PHaZeXER0

 

[TDK]

OSfrog OSfrog OSfrog OSfrog

 

[Das Koopa]

NotATK Pool Analysis NotATK

A1: Mr. R , IceArrow , Eon , SS
A2: Larry Lurr , Snoop , DSS , Luhtie
A3: Tweek , ven , iStudying , Soulimar
A4: VoiD , Cyro , Xzax , Lea
A5: Locus , Meteor , Mr. E , Regi Shikimi
A6: Abadango , Razo , NAKAT , Venia
A7: Samsora , Zex , FOW , Phoenix , Tempra
A8: Elegant , Teb , Falln , Shiki , Donquavious
B1: ZeRo , Z , Charliedaking , ImHip , Nova!
B2: Nairo , Waveguider , Mekos , Oisiitofu , Aarvark
B3: Ally , Taternator , B7games , Tyrant , Zan
B4: komorikiri , Akashic , Ghost , Legit , JK
B5: Captain Zack , NinjaLink , Some , Jtails
B6: Edge , Elexiao , Zenyou , IC , PHaZeX3R0
B7: ANTi , SlayerZ , Ac , Vash
B8: Ranai , TLTC , Rich Brown , Stroder

 

[TDK]

Quick analysis:

Falln will probably beat Elegant if he beats Shiki, he's dominated him pretty badly in the past. Ranai's chances of being upsetted by TLTC is probably decent but I wouldn't hold my breath. I doubt he'll beat Rich Brown. ANTi has a good chance of losing to SlayerZ, his records against Peach (IE Samsora) aren't great.

Also, if Elexiao plays another frog he'll probably go Pac-Man, he's handled iStudying pretty well before with him and I could see it working well against the frogs that aren't Japanese/Venia. WaveGuider will probably go Wii Fit against other Frogs for a similar reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiURgoho1mw

EDIT: JK & ImHip take it over ZeRo & Nairo 2-1 in pools!

 

[Finh009]

Upsets already?


Wow...

Edit: Larry Lurr + Zenyou 2-0 ZeRo + Nairo

 

[TDK]

ZeRo and Nairo went 1-2 in doubles

Singles starting soon on the main stream, top 12 doubles will continue on the secondary one

 

[chaos11011]

Quick analysis:

Falln will probably beat Elegant if he beats Shiki, he's dominated him pretty badly in the past. Ranai's chances of being upsetted by TLTC is probably decent but I wouldn't hold my breath. I doubt he'll beat Rich Brown. ANTi has a good chance of losing to SlayerZ, his records against Peach (IE Samsora) aren't great.

Also, if Elexiao plays another frog he'll probably go Pac-Man, he's handled iStudying pretty well before with him and I could see it working well against the frogs that aren't Japanese/Venia. WaveGuider will probably go Wii Fit against other Frogs for a similar reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiURgoho1mw

EDIT: JK & ImHip take it over ZeRo & Nairo 2-1 in pools!

To add on to that, IceArrow told me on Wednesday that he will go Mario against other Greninja if his back is to the wall.

 

[Wintermelon43]

lol we already have Greninja dittos and we're only at the second singles match.

 

[TDK]

Donquavious 2-0 shiki

Shiki got dissected

Oh, and IceArrow is already out, losing 0-2 to Mudomo and WildFire

First Frog down

 

[Game7a1]

Regi 2-0 Mr. E (don't know which he used)
He goes on to face Locus. I hope that's on stream as the G&W:Ryu matchup is a rare one.

 

[TDK]

Lea 2-1 VoiD

 

[NotLiquid]

Frog snagged an upset

Lea 2 -1 VoiD

edit: frog'd

 

[Finh009]

Lea 2-1 VoiD

I believe this is the first upset from the frog.

 

[Y2Kay]

LEA GOT EEEEEEEEEEMM

 

[TDK]

Falln 2-0s Elegant

I was right

 

[Nu~]

and Regi are already proving themselves to be a major threat

 

[Y2Kay]

DK IS TRASH

 

[TDK]

Revenge for all the combo videos Greninjas made on DK

 

[|RK|]

DK IS TRASH

Lmaoooo

It's funny - only two stocks were ding dongs, iirc. Shame Greninja can't even box him out to the level of other characters.

 

[Finh009]

Locus 2-1 Regi

Kinda disappointed he lost. Hopefully he has a good losers run.

 

[TDK]

Razo 2-0 Venia

Venia placed 49th, second frog to drown in pools

 

[Nu~]

DK IS TRASH

 

[Y2Kay]

Razo 2-0 Venia

Venia placed 65th, second frog to drown in pools

DAD NO.

 

[Nu~]

And here I thought Venia was the best Greninja in the US?

 

[TDK]

Phoenix 2-1 FOW

 

[|RK|]

And here I thought Venia was the best Greninja in the US?

Evidently, Venia's Pro Controller had some connection issues that cost him the set with NAKAT.

 

[Finh009]

Apparently Meteor beat Mr E/

He's out...

 

[Nu~]

Evidently, Venia's Pro Controller had some connection issues that cost him the set with NAKAT.

Ah, that sucks then :/

 

[MistressRemilia]

Locus 2-1 Regi

Kinda disappointed he lost. Hopefully he has a good losers run.

Quite frankly Regi didn't play all that well. There was a lack of USmash to stop Locus' more horizontal options, leaning towards the laggy SH ( FF ) Bairs and sometimes Nair. UpAir for juggling purposes and 2 hits can also be good. Regi was quite unsafe in some wrong places, and his ledge options were kind of subpar. Too many openings for Locus to strike, which is what happened in Game 2 & 3. Hopefully, he learns from his mistakes.

 

[ShadowGuy1]

So happy for Razo! Been doing great at SoCal locals and it looks like Razo's chance to shine at a big event might happen now!

 

[TDK]

Nice to know the Leo win wasn't a fluke, good going Meteor.

 

[ShadowGuy1]

Shine /(not sure Tetra and Zinoto mentioned he used both) > Xzax

EDIT - It was Lucas

 

[Kofu]

Quite frankly Regi didn't play all that well. There was a lack of USmash to stop Locus' more horizontal options, leaning towards the laggy SH ( FF ) Bairs and sometimes Nair. UpAir for juggling purposes and 2 hits can also be good. Regi was quite unsafe in some wrong places, and his ledge options were kind of subpar. Too many openings for Locus to strike, which is what happened in Game 2 & 3. Hopefully, he learns from his mistakes.

I hope these matches were recorded, since the Ryu MU isn't bad for Game & Watch at all. Except, ya know, being the third lightest character in the game when your opponent has a move that can be comboed into to kill you at 70% or earlier. Game & Watch's strengths basically are perfect to exploit Ryu's weaknesses though.

 

[TDK]

https://www.twitch.tv/esasmash

Singles continuing here for anyone interested

EDIT: Captain Andrew 2-0 Shiki , leaving Shiki out at 97th.

And minor error, Venia placed 49th, not 65th.

 

[Froggy]

Any idea why the pro controller wouldn't work. I can't recall hearing such a thing happen before

 

[Y2Kay]

Venia complained about the wireless inteference at Civil War too, so I'm not surprised the venue is messing with him. The sad life of playing on pro controllers :/

 

[Froggy]

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Venia complained about the wireless inteference at Civil War too, so I'm not surprised the venue is messing with him. The sad life of playing on pro controllers :/

I wasn't even aware he was at civil war. Is it an issue with the venue or the number of players?

 

[Finh009]

Phoenix 2-1 Samsora

Aww...

 

[Y2Kay]

P*%2BH2H7]]]]]]]]]//////////////////////////////


I wasn't even aware he was at civil war. Is it an issue with the venue or the number of players?

Porbably because of how many phones are in that one room. That'd be my guess. Venia, usually only plays at smaller New York locals.

 

[L9999]

Skylar did the Ally 9 freaking times.