☆ Official Luigi Match-Up Thread! ☆

[HyL!]

i don't get it, the zss match up thread is a picture of rob :O?

 

[Blakmane]

No idea.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=203418&page=115#post10668296


Here's the real thread :-). It doesn't sound like many ZSS's have much lui exp (me included) so it would be good to get plenty of luis on to discuss misconceptions etc

 

[Blakmane]

Double posting for the bump

Come on Wigi's, your main is taking a hammering in our MU discussion! Discuss with us so the debate isn't as one sided!

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

The Luigis are scared to discuss the Luigi vs ZSS MU. ._.

 

[Blakmane]

we're not that scary ;_;

If no Luigi's give input into the thread, it'll probably end up being 60:40 to ZSS, due to ZSS's higher aerial priority, spacing/camping ability, and because Lui has no specific tools to exploit her weaknesses. ZSS is a pain for Wigi but the MU is by no means unwinnable.

If you disagree/agree, go to to the thread and voice your opinion :-p. Otherwise we'll probably move in in a day or two.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

we're not that scary ;_;

If no Luigi's give input into the thread, it'll probably end up being 60:40 to ZSS, due to ZSS's higher aerial priority, spacing/camping ability, and because Lui has no specific tools to exploit her weaknesses. ZSS is a pain for Wigi but the MU is by no means unwinnable.

If you disagree/agree, go to to the thread and voice your opinion :-p. Otherwise we'll probably move in in a day or two.

ZSS has higher aerial priority?

Our f-air goes through your n-air?
Our up air has even priority to your down air?
our back air has more priority than your f-air?

The single moves that are hard to space vs are:
Down smash, Charge B, and Side B, and possibly the back air/up air if we are above Zamus.

The main issue with Zamus is that Zamus is one of the better characters vs Luigi's recover, down smash or charge b, f-air or back air, repeat. We can barely try to kill Zamus offstage due to Zamus's down b and multiple recoveries otherwise. Back air is our best shot but it can lead to problems.

I can say that this matchup is 60-40 just because of spacing, not because of priority.

 

[BSP]

So, back to ICS. All the stuff that's written up looks fine to me. Where should we take them to?

Obviously avoid any flat stages since they will outcamp you, and IMO platforms really help Luigi in separating them. So, I'd go brinstar, but if they ban that...kinda hard to say.

 

[makoforce]

rainbow cruise?

 

[HyL!]

brinstar, rainbow cruise, Yoshi's Island is alright, but they'll usually strike that, I do terrible on delfino with them, but that's just me. I've taken them to frigate before, but only because it's my best cp D:

 

[makoforce]

meh i suck on brinstar

 

[HyL!]

no one sucks on brinstar against ice climbers

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

U guys wanna say Luigi vs ZSS is 55/45, ZSS's favor, ZSS's range rly ***** us, ZSS is scared to get up close to us due to our killing moves.

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

Excuse me for double posting, Luigi's match-up ratios imo:

MK - 35/65
Snake - 45/55
Falco - 45/55
Diddy - 40/60
ICs - 40/60
Marth - 35/65, I don't see 30/70, I luv the matchup on wifi
Wario - 45/55
D3 - 30/70 (standing infinite), 40/60 (no standing infinite)
Pikachu - 50/50 or 52/48
Olimar - 40/60
Lucario - 45/55
G&W - 35/65
Pit - 50/50 or 55/45
TL - 40/60 or 45/55
ZSS - 45/55
Kirby - 50/50
ROB - 55/45 or 50/50
DK - 50/50 or 48/52
Peach - 50/50
Fox - 60/40
Luigi - EPIC
Wolf - 45/55
Sheik - 60/40
Pkmn Trainer - 55/45
Sonic - 55/45
Ness - 50/50
Bowser - 52/48 or 50/50
Lucas - 50/50
Ike - 45/55 or 48/52
Yoshi - 50/50
Mario - 50/50
CF - 60/40
Samus - 60/40
Jiggly - 65/35 or 70/30
Link - 60/40
Ganon - 60/40

 

[hippiedude92]

pika is like 55:45 or 6/4 luigis adv
snake is like 6/4 he wins
marth is like 45:55 him or 5/5 imo
ddd is like 5:5

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

Hippie, I agree w/ you about Marth, Luigi vs Snake offline, 6/4, 55/45 online imo. DDD vs Luigi is even w/o standing infinite?...

 

[BigLøu]

Actually that list up there looks extremely accurate other then luigi losing to diddy 6/4.

I think it's even or slight Luigi favor.

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

Diddy is kinda good in that MU.

 

[HyL!]

i thought luigi was one of diddy's worst mu's?

 

[yoshq]

i don't really understand how he would be, although that's what people say, and although i will say it's harder on wifi for luigi.

 

[HyL!]

wifi diddy, are really annoying :S

 

[hippiedude92]

standing infinites are usually banned in tourneys

snake is garbzzz on wifi

 

[HyL!]

i hate the luigi snake mu on wifi

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

I luv the Luigi vs Snake MU, it's not hard for me @ all, I enjoy it a lot. Diddy is rly pi**es me off on wifi w/ nanas and shiz when I try to powershield which is fail on wifi depending on connection, but real talk tho, Diddy gotten better @ that MU, ADHD beats Boss's Luigi. Ppl is scared to approach Luigi b/c they know Luigi got good priority and know how to rack up damage.

 

[solidxgeo]

Very true, The one good way to give a Luigi Hell is Spam projectiles and space well (marth-.-)

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

I swear Luigi vs Marth should be 6/4...that match-up is not hard for me, I don't know about you guys.

 

[HyL!]

i really don't have a problem with marth, it's just a lot easier to go ice climbers against them imo

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

Lol, Marth is gud in @ that ICs MU, I just go Snake if I'm bored to go Luigi.

 

[HyL!]

i don't think i've ever lost to a marth on/offline with icies :S

 

[yoshq]

lilg hit me up on aim and i'd like to try to **** you with marth (but i don't use him)

 

[Yonder]

Excuse me for double posting, Luigi's match-up ratios imo:


Matchup stuff

D3 - 30/70 (standing infinite), 40/60 (no standing infinite)

Don't think it's 40-60 without, more like even.

Olimar - 40/60

[Has to be a typo, we **** Olimar]

G&W - 35/65

[Overrated matchup, 40/60

Fox - 60/40

[I'd think 65-35 possibly...]

Luigi - EPIC

[Imo in luigis favor


Just some opinions and personal experiance

 

[ScAtt77]

IMO:

Mario: 50:50
Luigi: <3
Peach: 50:50
Bowser: 55:45
DK: 50:50
Diddy: 45:55 (sucks at this mu)
Yoshi: 55:45
Wario: 50:50
Link: 55:45
Sheik: 50:50
Ganon: 65:35
TL: 45:55
Zelda: 60: 40
Samus: 50:50
Pit: 45:55
ICs: 40:60
R.O.B: 50:50
Kirby: 45:55
MK: 30:70
DDD: 50:50
Olimar: 65:35
Fox: 60:40
Falco: 45:55
Wolf: ?
CF: 35:65
Pikachu: 60:40
Squirtle: 45:55 Ivy: 60:40 Charizard: 55:45
Lucario: 55:45
Jiggs: ?
Marth: 40:60
Ike: 55:45
Ness: ?
Lucas: ?
G&W: 45:55
Snake: 45:55 or 50:50
Sonic: 50:50

 

[AxelPurpleMissle]

lilg hit me up on aim and i'd like to try to **** you with marth (but i don't use him)

hmm......id like to see this match.

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

lilg hit me up on aim and i'd like to try to **** you with marth (but i don't use him)

Looooooooool, YoshQ, pfft, bring it, I ain't scared.

 

[HyL!]

i dunno about anyone else, but i haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate the link matchup D:

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

HyL, I don't blame you. I just go Mario or Snake to **** him. Link is gud vs Luigi w/ his annoying spacing tho.

 

[HyL!]

yeah, i've never played a good one offline, but i never go luigi against them anymore T.T

 

[AxelPurpleMissle]

Link isn't that hard O,o marth is HARD..or mk i guess...

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

I know Link ain't that hard but Link can give Luigi a hard time when he's running away spamming the z-airs w/ projectiles, u play a rly good Link, he can pressure w/ his spacing and z-airs which would annoy you.

 

[AxelPurpleMissle]

I know Link ain't that hard but Link can give Luigi a hard time when he's running away spamming the z-airs w/ projectiles, u play a rly good Link, he can pressure w/ his spacing and z-airs which would annoy you.

I love to play links all the time...especially good ones like legan, theblack link, and I playd blaze in lag XD. All you have to do is get inside and dodge..Don't let them recover..

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

Edgeguarding them is 2 easy, I need to play Legan on AIB btw