Infinite Jump w/ bair and nair!!!!! *update* can be done w/ all aerials and video

Ok so I've known this for about a few days now, but I wasn't sure if I was just dreaming or something. But I finally confirmed it for myself in training mode.
ALSO please go to tactical discussion for a better explanation for why this works.

As the title says, Marth can do an infinite jump w/ the bair and nair. This is like bowser's infinite jump. However, the timing is MUCH more difficult. I can do it semi-consistently w/ the bair but w/ the nair I have not gotten the timing down. Anyway when I did this I was at 2/3 speed.

So this is how I did it at 2/3 speed. First I SH bair. Then I use my double jump right before I hit the ground. Now right before I reach the apex of my double jump I do a bair. Then I am able to double jump again before I hit the ground.

If you don't get it at first don't frustrated the timing is ridiculously weird. For the nair I haven't figured out the timing yet, so I won't post anything but essentially its the same as the bair. Also just saying right now, if you guys figure out a better timing method for any of these plz post them.

*update* found to work w/ fair also
And tactical discussion forums have shown it is possible w/ all aerials
thank you samurai panda
*update* video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dDtVaWjIys

Now in terms of usefulness, right now I would say its too hard to time to be useful, but just like all the other infinite jumps it could make an awesome mindgame. I also think this has some combo potential as you will be able to do another aerial immediately after w/o landing. I'm thinking bair to fair, maybe? bair to uair? who knows there are many possibilities. Anyway this will have an interesting effect in improving marth's gameplay although it might be too difficult to time.

Interesting property is the fact that this infinite jump can be done w/ two aerial contrary to all the others which use only one move. Also I don't know how the tipper stun effect will have on the timing.

Disclaimer: I searched the forums and I've seen nothing about this, so I'll take credit if it hasn't been discovered already. Also I can not take videos, I have no such recording device so it would be helpful if one of guys could post a video and I'll put it in the OP. Also this is not bair/nair then buffering two jumps upon landing.

I'll say again if you guys figure out better timing methods for both the bair and nair infinite jump in 1x speed then post them.

Discuss.

If true, this is my new victory taunt

Yeah this will be the new dash dance wave dash SHFFL n-air in between stocks.

Good job finding this.

If this works, which I'm sure it does, then awesome job man!
Can't wait to try it, stupid school.... >_<

I know this works but the timing for this is ridiculous. Again please post better timing methods if you find one that works for you.

awesome...i think we should call this the Dash Dance
Rename thread!!!! lol and i can find out the timing for this dun wrry...

lol what's w/ these names?
Yeah we should call this marth super jump canceling wave dance

3xSwords said:

lol what's w/ these names?
Yeah we should call this marth super jump canceling wave dance

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Or landing cancel.

Wave cancel L Dash Dancing Grab Wall SFFL Pwn for name????



Someone please vid this this sounds awesome for marth!

Dude, I can capture video off my wii.
My brawl fc is <
And let me get my wii fc.
Give me yours too, then send me a replay and I can upload it within 10 minutes.
EDIT:
Wii #: 6929 1852 3997 3595
Brawl FC: 4339-2198-1153

xMiMix srry but I don't got wifi
I need a stupid adapter but I don't have that yet.
You will have to replay one yourself or someone.

3xSwords said:

xMiMix srry but I don't got wifi
I need a stupid adapter but I don't have that yet.
You will have to replay one yourself or someone.

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Hmm, do you have an sd card?
I can't seem to be able to pull this thing off.
If someone can, please send me a replay or upload it here.

OMFG I did it
It really hard to do with bair, but man it looks quite use full the way I see it.
Too bad I wasn't recording the vid
I find it easier to do with 2 Short Hopped jumps then a bair fast fall and spam Y
Off to more practicing.

Yes, now post a vid so I can put it in the OP. Also FF'ing the bair seems difficult, but as long as you got it that's great.

Gah it so hard to do. I haven't actually gotten any footage of it. I'll keep trying for the next 2 hrs.

I may try to practice this after crews and the tourney tonight... why does this only work with b-air and n-air? It would be so good with f-air too...

Why would it be good for the F-air? The landing lag is smaller then the air lag.

@xMiMix: Just save it in a replay and then get footage of the replay.

Rhyfelwyr said:

Why would it be good for the F-air? The landing lag is smaller then the air lag.

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I doubt this will have reliable applications for actual fighting so it's more for showing off. Marth never touching the ground with f-airs would be sexy

manhunter098 said:

@xMiMix: Just save it in a replay and then get footage of the replay.

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Bah, after like 1 hr of practicing, I could only do it like 3 times, and those times I wasn't recording. This is quite hard to pull off, but its funny how much joy fills me up when I do pull it off.
Meh, I'm gonna go keep trying.

if marth could do this out of a shfairx2 then it could link to another shfairx2 better.
i think it'd be good around 50% on midweights? not sure.
i'd practice this right now but i have some other important work.


to understand better what aerials give infinite jumps, why does this happen? what tricks the game into thinking you landed? why does this only work with nair and bair, why not fair as well?

you guys its not happening for fairs quit dreaming lol

@icraq who knows why it happens it just does. For bowser it worked b/c his sideB made it so that the game thought Bowser was touching the ground when he wasn't. So I guess you could say the same principle might apply here. Still don't why it works.

Go ask m2k or samurai panda lol

I still havent been able to pull this off. I been trying for almost an hour.

Need video footage so it can be confirmed. with this marth will own.

im going into traning mode right now. lol marth will be that much more ownage. if i do it like 5 times ill record it


thanks for the tip OP

omg i did it lol. there is noo way this can be done at normal speeds. lol

I did this and thought I was dreaming too.

This is **** impossible.
I don't think that there will be people who will use this to their advantage in a game. The timing is ridiculous.

Wonder if we find something useful to do with this, other than mindgames.

Me say this pretty darn hard, but awesome!

This also works with fair, and I personally found it easier to get the fair to work than the bair or nair. This was in 1x time.

In addition, your jump height does not matter, theres a specific frame (may be two, but the difficulty of successfully pulling this off leads me to believe that its one frame) during which pulling out the attack allows you to jump before hitting the ground.

You cant press jump too early or you wind up hitting the ground and doing a regular jump. If you press jump right before hitting the ground, it either works or you do your "second jump" off the ground. It's really weird but the animation of the second jump plays and you cant jump again, but the jump comes off of the ground if you miss the "sweet" frame by a little.

Gazebo said:

This also works with fair, and I personally found it easier to get the fair to work than the bair or nair. This was in 1x time.

In addition, your jump height does not matter, theres a specific frame (may be two, but the difficulty of successfully pulling this off leads me to believe that its one frame) during which pulling out the attack allows you to jump before hitting the ground.

You cant press jump too early or you wind up hitting the ground and doing a regular jump. If you press jump right before hitting the ground, it either works or you do your "second jump" off the ground. It's really weird but the animation of the second jump plays and you cant jump again, but the jump comes off of the ground if you miss the "sweet" frame by a little.

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Epic 1st post. So it does work with fair then, do you have a vid by chance?

Steel2nd said:

Epic 1st post. So it does work with fair then, do you have a vid by chance?

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Sorry to say that I don't, but I got it to work like this:

Do a short hop, double jump when close to the ground, but going forward, like a forward jump. Do a fair a little bit before the peak, and then maneuver back to your starting position and try to jump again near the ground.

I mean, it worked for me maybe 2 in 100 tries, but it's something.

I'm starting to get the feeling that this might be possible with all aerials. O.o Maybe we should move this to the tactical discussion boards and see what they make of it.

Also has nobody else got a replay of them doing it? B/c I don't have a recording device or wifi so I can't do anything to show real proof, so it would be nice if somebody can finally record themselves. I really don't want this thread to be viewed as one of those rick roll ones. Those are just too bad.

I can't do it. BUT I can record. If someone has a replay. I can upload it!

So now it's possible to dj offstage over and over while doing Marth's fair?

... well that's kind of not that exciting in any way whatsoever.

lol we should call it:
infinitejumpw/bai/nair/fair
what difference does this have than normal jumping
is it something to do with lag?