ZOMBIES! Mafia - Who Survived the Apocalypse?

[Dooms]

Ryu don't fail a class! You got this! (although I failed one as well it's okay I'll be here for you <3)

I'm fine with a Ranmaru push. The whole voting No Lynch for something he's done in a scum game before thing is kind of a load of **** and the vote in general looks very opportunistic. The Ashemu vote is very poorly explained and it looks like he just threw an accusation to throw an accusation, which looks really bad considering Ashemu was SO easy to jump on after she jumped on the NL wagon because of her opinion of the wagon prior to her vote. Along with that, his 229 is really disgusting. Specifically the line "Opportunistic in the sense that you hard defend No Lynch as a scumbuddy, but decide to pile on when there is a major support for his death or at least a major discomfort with his slot." Why would Ashemu wait to jump on after one more person votes the slot? The amount of pressure on the slot didn't realistically change much at all. An array of people were voting No Lynch already, and adding one more person didn't really add much to the pressure aspect. I don't understand how you can accuse Ashemu of going from hard defense to busing when she already showed slight distaste in the slot prior to jumping on the wagon and she had her own reasoning for joining the wagon either way (which isn't weak if you don't think about meta by the way).

Definitely don't wanna throw him at L-2 already though. I'll keep my vote off only because of that.

 

[ranmaru]

(oh snap, just pressing quote automatically adds the quote to your current draft... sex)



this doesn't make any sense

how does voting J do more than having voted Gheb? because J had someone else voting him? they were both votes without reasoning behind them, it'd be silly as **** for J to feel pressured do to WOTT's additional vote.

WOTT's reasoning in #42! certainly doesn't explain ****... so i'm confused why you're suspecting NL with the premise that he didn't acknowledge WOTT's pointless reasoning. also i though WOTT's vote was odd af too so I'm not following how NL seems like he's discrediting WOTT / how NL seems scummy from that

Yes. Considering the stage we were in at the time, getting on a developing wagon (however serious) is slightly better than staying on Gheb. So moving the vote is not bad in that case, especially when someone asks you to join.

I wasn't talking about his #42. I'll post the quotes I was referring to. Why did you refer to this when I gave context to the reasoning?

Omgus fro
Id put mac and yourself as hard to read when not highly motivated to play/ when you guys don't feel like cooperating. J pretty much forces himself to play especially when town and makes it somewhat obvious on that case.

Don't think too much about it. You're getting involved in something you don't really need to. I don't know exactly why to be honest but if I had to make a stance I would lean on how Gheb views it at the moment. If you're going to offer something to us, tell us how you feel about pushing J and if you are willing to join us.

He posts the response to WATT explaining the reasoning for bringing up 'Why J over Mac/Gheb?' question in response to NL pressuring J. In this quote, in the orange, he sees it but doesn't actually talk to him about it. He says for him to think less about it, when he's talking about the reasoning that would give sense to bringing up the original question. Yet, NL states in the next quote:

It was weird how he asked why we put J over macman/Gheb when it really didn't make sense to wonder that in the first place.

It was a weird vote because his previous vote went nowhere, even if it is RVS. I'd say there's enough to be out of RVS so I probably won't be dealing with anyone who claims otherwise btw.

That it was weird that WATT brought the question up, and that it didn't make sense. This is a lie, because the reasoning that gives sense to it, is up there in the blue, and he didn't care to think about it when it was in front of his face.

Secondly, he tries to justify his stance that his transition was weird because his previous vote didn't go anywhere, as if it would had. In the red he justifies his previous vote by saying that there is enough to get out of RVS, therefore making his Gheb vote a serious vote when it wasn't.

If you're going to offer something to us, tell us how you feel about pushing J and if you are willing to join us.

I get the feeling that he was trying to discredit WATT after asking him to join (and give an opinion about joining). I think he was trying to force his easy acceptance to joining into giving up on Gheb when he wasn't doing much with Gheb in the first place. Again, this is where he tries to force it into something serious by saying you can always get things out of RVS, but not with a measly RVS vote. Him saying him bringing up you/Gheb doesn't make sense when I can think of how it would, and can show WATT himself explaining how it makes sense, makes me think NL is scum trying to make WATT look bad, and not thinking about how WATT would actually make sense.

no im not going to spend time talking about moira after coming to the conlcusion nl is scum, again the issue with nl is situational. nl never looked like he was attempting to "get as much as [he] can out of them" until called out

ftr him being upset was never the crux of my vote, i suspected him for the passive approach to the game which i mentioned next post. i specifically called him out for being mad first because i wanted to see how hed respond to that. townies that "defend first" are rare (note: you can do both in teh same post) and even if you want to argue that nl had been missing the "and then scumhunt" part entirely

this post in particualr is baffling because nl already jumps 2 the conclusion that moira has good intentions, then when pressed by me later he has no opinion on the slot

Fair enough. Unvote Vote: No lynch (Hydra) I do have a question though:

honestly im cooling on nl after his recent posts, theyre more like hes down on himsel fand the game than explicitly scum

Can you clarify this? Also, how does this change your perspective on his reaction to Moira?

 

[ranmaru]

Wait why are people townreading this slot? Cuz he's ****in stupid?

Ok Gorf. What is your actual opinion of my slot?

 

[ranmaru]

I'm going to ignore you for the rest of the game until scum NK's you, because you're painfully town. Emphasis on the pain. You're giving me a headache, we're 3 pages in and you've already managed to somehow find some ~deep intricate reason~ into every actual word I say. When I told you WATT was a feeling (and that feeling being weird), that's all it will ever be. That's all it is now. I can't level with you though because you're literally putting certain things into a color-bold, underlined emphasis like there's some ulterior motive behind them. There isn't. That's why I'm telling you take what I say at face value.

Let us not forget that we are arguing while NL never even gave a rebuttal to my accusation, and instead chose to ignore my push by calling me town each time I brought it up.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Why do I have the feeling that Moira basically had absolutely nothing to say in their flurry of posts yesterday? Why do I feel like Gheb has done nothing far from sling mud? Why isn't town even ****ing trying? Why is it that literally a page and a half ago the general consensus was that Ran was painfully obvtown and all it took was ash me and Mac to completely turn that on its head?

Ran I think you smell bad.

 

[ranmaru]

Ran I think you smell bad.

I showered and use ocean breeze deodorant.

 

[No Lynch]

Out for the night.

Best post you made all game.

tahts fair. i interpreted the gun remark as indicating it was a very minor opinion

im gonna be honest, i dont have strong reads anywhere right now, its like nobody wants to commit to a push and vote (except gorf, luv u) and this makes it very hard for me to tell where anybodys coming from, words are cheap but votes never lie so i wish ppl would be less content to just go "hm well i dunno who the scum are" *disappears*. part of it is probably shock from being accustomed to faster-paced games where having 4 nonposters 48 hours into a 13p d1 is unheard of unless ur playing w/ really really bad people

I hate it as well, but I have grown accustomed to it. As I said earlier, you can't complete a puzzle with just a few pieces. Unless those pieces happen to be scum, which we have not felt.

 

[No Lynch]

Scum is likely within

Frozen
Rockin
Rake
Gheb


I like Moira
I like Ashemu

Gheb why did you break you posting style?

 

[ranmaru]

I assume this is Zen?

Why do you think scum is in that pool?

 

[No Lynch]

your*

Ran seriously you're tunneling hard. Are you just going to completely ignore our pact?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb why did you break you posting style?

I'm not done writing in rhymes. I just prefer to post this way when I have to answer stuff directly, like your question.

I'm not scum btw and I have definitely done more than slinging mud ... unlike Gorf.

 

[ranmaru]

Are you just going to completely ignore our pact?

You were already slacking, so no I wasn't.

 

[No Lynch]

I like Moira

You're hurting my feelings, Zen.

 

[Xivii]

I assume this is Zen?

Why do you think scum is in that pool?

Guess lol

 

[No Lynch]

Guess lol

Mobile has failed me.

 

[No Lynch]

@ ~ Gheb ~ There is pretense?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

???

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ryu don't fail a class! You got this! (although I failed one as well it's okay I'll be here for you <3)

Well...I didn't know the teacher was going to end the class two days earlier than we were going to be running for.

So my final project wasn't done and...yeah.

*sigh*

I still got over a 2.0 GPA I think so no worries there but...this is ****.

 

[Dooms]

Well...I didn't know the teacher was going to end the class two days earlier than we were going to be running for.

So my final project wasn't done and...yeah.

*sigh*

I still got over a 2.0 GPA I think so no worries there but...this is ****.

What? Why in the hell would a teacher do that? That's really aggravating to hear. :/ Sorry that you have to deal with bull**** like that.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

aiight i'm going with NL's meta read and hopping off ranmaru... my first issue with him was related to a slight misread of one of WATT's posts and my other issues with him aren't worth it considering that I think NL is more townie than not and he still has a strong town read on ran for meta reasons, ones which i can kinda understand

gonna go back to focusing on watt / gheb

vote: gheb

yet again you're only saying **** when ppl call you out

agree with gorf that it feels like moira didn't say anything at all during the flurry of posts which rubs me the wrong way a lil bit, but not enough to really sway my opinion of the slot to scum

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

What? Why in the hell would a teacher do that? That's really aggravating to hear. :/ Sorry that you have to deal with bull**** like that.

yeah **** sucks.

I'll deal with that later though now I gotta focus on one paper then this.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

TAKE IT TO PM

 

[~ Gheb ~]

So what are you voting me for again?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

cuz you've just been reactionary

are you still suspicious of watt? is ran more worthy of your vote?

 

[Moira]

Why do I have the feeling that Moira basically had absolutely nothing to say in their flurry of posts yesterday?

I have said things, but they were discreet.

If you need a healthy reminder, I would be happy to oblige.

 

[Moira]

cuz you've just been reactionary

are you still suspicious of watt? is ran more worthy of your vote?

Big Mac, how is this scummy when referring to Gheb? You say this is a meta change, but I am of a different mindset and think this fits more to just Gheb being Gheb. Thanks for getting him to drop the poetry though.

I would like you to talk about Ashemu. That little girl is becoming a bit too slutty with that vote of hers.

 

[Moira]

Oh dear, it seems I broke the censor. Did not know that word was considered obscene.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

quote="Macman, post: 16738191, member: 28116"]Is there multiquote functionality



why did you make this point?[/quote]I was asked why I threw out the names I did upon questioning why nl was going after j. Thats my explanation

 

[Moira]

People keep referring to this slot as the letter J. The only letter J acronym that comes to mind is combined with a B. Reminder, there is another slot actually posting at this time. Here's a little tool to help you read who is posting what in our posts.

Spoiler

Sex = J
Thoughts = Sang

Though we are a bit of a hot bothered mess together so they do mesh a lot.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

are you still suspicious of watt? is ran more worthy of your vote?

I don't think my vote on WATT is misplaced at all right now. Though as I said, I'm willing to support a Ran push and am curious to see where it's going.

Thanks for getting him to drop the poetry though.

Haven't "dropped" it fyi.

 

[Moira]

Big Mac, ignore the question on Ashemu. I found my answer. I would in turn like to trade that name for a read on Rake since he snuck some posts in it seems.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

One man does not make a wagon.



Orbo's diplomatic attitude is SO funny for some reason.
ng.

What does it say about my alignment?

Instead explain what you meant by this:

gheb up and omgusing me upon rvs voting him isn't indicative of his alignment and therefore not something I should bother voting him over

Talk to me about the Ryu discussion shut down.

I really dislike it happened because it seems like a easy cop out that smells of three day old tacos.

"I want to lynch Ryu because Ryu things " and not "I want to lynch Ryu because the Ryu things he's doing seem fake, hollow or background" is a difference worth noting.

Also who's scum, and finally; Are you town ?

I am indeed town brohan. If I had to throw something out there, the way soup went about himself vs J is throwing aFlag out there for me. Its like.. hes got the anger at being misunderstood but hes trying to reign himself in and his arguments ring hollow to me. Ashemu and mac and ran are all likely town. Gheb is null. Gorf could be town. I don't have much more than that. Ryu needs to get posti ng again

 

[Moira]

Could we get a tad of explanations to those reads, Officer?

Also I need a scum-lean from you. If you had to name a slot, who would it be and why?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

what is gheb being gheb? if you mean only piping up when ppl mention him and not really adding anything to the table is gheb's meta then clearly dude is a lot worse at mafia then i remembered

on rake, his string of posts were pretty useless for me and i didn't really feel em at all, though i don't know why they felt off putting. he did the whole *post as he reads the thread* thing - but i do that on a regular basis. in order to get a better grasp on him i wanna see him get out of catchup mode and actively do ****

tho i think i saw a contradiction in his posts somewhere, actually lemme see if i can find it

 

[#HBC | Mac]

WATT, i mean specifically what is gheb being gheb and how did you see that from his play in the game thus far.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

tbh: the no lynch case seems rly dumb too me even 4 d1, the gist of it is "he's putting on A Act" which is stupid bc town will affect their posts too for the sake of rhetoric. attacking ruy for bad play doest'n mean anything here because there was no vote & they even said hed flip town, thats not how you attack people in mafia games, this literally boils down to ryu arguing that chastising him for doing dumb things is scummy without a permit

if anythings bad about them it's the fact that they HAVENT made a real puush yet, im not even townreading them and this is still ****en dumb, pressure joey with me instead imo

]this x 1000
We can be friends[/quote]

rake why did you like ashemu's post here when the rest of your posts were agreeing with the crappy case on NL?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

ebwopin it

tbh: the no lynch case seems rly dumb too me even 4 d1, the gist of it is "he's putting on A Act" which is stupid bc town will affect their posts too for the sake of rhetoric. attacking ruy for bad play doest'n mean anything here because there was no vote & they even said hed flip town, thats not how you attack people in mafia games, this literally boils down to ryu arguing that chastising him for doing dumb things is scummy without a permit

if anythings bad about them it's the fact that they HAVENT made a real puush yet, im not even townreading them and this is still ****en dumb, pressure joey with me instead imo

this x 1000
We can be friends

rake why did you like ashemu's post here when the rest of your posts were agreeing with the crappy case on NL?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

gheb is null? WATT????

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@ Wots All This Then? : who is mafia right now? or more accurate who does orbo think is mafia right onw? if you dont have a clear opinion then share who you think is the most likely to be. getting teh impression youre intentionally only making side comments until your other half can post

If I had to pick a name right now?
Probably one of gheb/joey out of who has posted. Dislike the fact rake hasnt posted due to his natural town style but hes probs busy irl.

what happened to this? gheb isn't one of your scumierleans anymore?

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Scum is likely within

Frozen
Rockin
Rake
Gheb


I like Moira
I like Ashemu

Gheb why did you break you posting style?

what happened to ryu?