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ZOMBIES! Mafia - Who Survived the Apocalypse?

Ashemu

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actually a better way to explain my joey vote than just "he did nothing" is that he totally couldve looked into the people pushing ryu if he didnt like the push, but didnt. its a very surface level answer for this stage of the game

but i mean the fact that he didnt rly do anything sucks too
 

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@Rule 13 If an cop were to be killed before he outs his results, he could go back and make it so that he is only liking posts that match his results. This is in violation of the "dead men tell no tales" idea. Since it is pretty much impossible to tell when a post was liked, I have to crack down on likes.
 
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#HBC | Red Ryu

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@Rule 13 If an cop were to be killed before he outs his results, he could go back and make it so that he is only liking posts that match his results. This is in violation of the "dead men tell no tales" idea. Since it is pretty much impossible to tell when a post was liked, I have to crack down on likes.
If someone pulled a stunt like that I can prove they unliked every post from the dead.

Plus people can prove they got notified of that like before they edited out, which that in itself is breaking a fundamental.

Even without this there is a way to prove someone liked then unliked a post.
 

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It's the "mightier than thou" attitude really. That sort of tone feels really out of place when it came. If you want me to explain more you'll need to be specific, I don't see what it is that needs clarification that I haven't already addressed.
That's honestly just a tone I picked up for this game because I was playing with Zen, which I feel would match his style. In a sense, I've been trying to emulate his play to make it so people don't read us as two separate players, because far too many hydras end up like that, and I want Zen to be able to post whatever he likes without someone saying 'Wait is that Zen?' The same goes for me. In the context of what Ryu said, I was a bit demanding because I was trying to produce a jump scare out of him, seeing how he would react with indirect pressure and if he would actually change his style. He didn't, which is what lead me to ask how you felt about it, but apparently it's just null and just what Ruy does. I agree but kind of don't, but your analogy about the killer makes sense in this regard so sadly he still remained largely null which was the exact opposite of what I was trying to get him to do, which was something that wasn't null. I say remained because I don't think he's null right now anymore, and I think his vote on us lacks a serious focus.
 

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lol What don't you like about it? I'm sure I've seen soup say to you almost the exact same thing in other games.
Reread what you first posted,

Ryu, whatever you're doing, please stop doing it right now. I don't want to have to lynch you and have you flip town because you think it's a good idea to make a bunch of vacuous statements and post a bunch of mundane questions that go nowhere.
The bolded rubs me the wrong way, this same tone is in all your posts to me and it's not one I think you do every game. You are putting up an act about my early game posts, what makes me more think this is you openly saying you would lynch me for a null tell but on top of it I don't think you really were paying attention to what I was doing.

Ash's play makes sense, Ash doesn't know how I handle pregame.

You know how I handle and play but you throw out a policy lynch on me as a threat?

Gorf is blatant and say it to me every game because my play pissed him off. This is something else entirely different from you and it's made worse by your posts on the matter of addressing my play.
 

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The bolded rubs me the wrong way, this same tone is in all your posts to me and it's not one I think you do every game. You are putting up an act about my early game posts, what makes me more think this is you openly saying you would lynch me for a null tell but on top of it I don't think you really were paying attention to what I was doing.
Read my #124.

@Zack Fair

Unvote. I seen J viewing this thread once or twice and he hasn't reacted to our pressure yet. I don't want our vote going to waste, but we should talk about where we want to go next. J dodging the thread indicative to you? Talk to me in our QT.
 

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actually a better way to explain my joey vote than just "he did nothing" is that he totally couldve looked into the people pushing ryu if he didnt like the push, but didnt. its a very surface level answer for this stage of the game

but i mean the fact that he didnt rly do anything sucks too
You think he should have made a vote on you or No lynch in that case?
 

Ashemu

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I want Zen to be able to post whatever he likes without someone saying 'Wait is that Zen?'
Well, <_<

You think he should have made a vote on you or No lynch in that case?
idk about outright voting but he should have made some attempt to look into us. this is another question where i cant possibly see you getting anything useful out of it btw
 

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tbh: the no lynch case seems rly dumb too me even 4 d1, the gist of it is "he's putting on A Act" which is stupid bc town will affect their posts too for the sake of rhetoric. attacking ruy for bad play doest'n mean anything here because there was no vote & they even said hed flip town, thats not how you attack people in mafia games, this literally boils down to ryu arguing that chastising him for doing dumb things is scummy without a permit

if anythings bad about them it's the fact that they HAVENT made a real puush yet, im not even townreading them and this is still ****en dumb, pressure joey with me instead imo
 

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@ No Lynch No Lynch : who actually is scummy to you at this juncture? anybody? kind of annoyed bc the cases on you are awful but you haven't like, done anything aside from post words a bunch. for all youve posted i cant actually tell what your thoughts are which is weird
 

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@ No Lynch No Lynch : who actually is scummy to you at this juncture? anybody? kind of annoyed bc the cases on you are awful but you haven't like, done anything aside from post words a bunch. for all youve posted i cant actually tell what your thoughts are which is weird
Nobody if you want an honest answer. Nothing has really set out any alarms for me which is why I unvoted in the first place because I'm well aware that I haven't pressured anyone. I hold the same sentiment that mostly everyone posting has been remotely townie, but I thought I was clear about why that is.

I think Ran is obvious town, I will not be reading him at all this game because he's already playing up to his 'over-analyze a situation' that is just so otherworldly that I couldn't expect it from anyone else but a town Ran. Gorf doesn't bother me, and I really liked his spin on the Ryu deal; nothing you've done either has really warranted pressure and you're mostly agreeable, even if I haven't bothered with your joey push. Ryu is the only person that I really have any sort of interest in so far. What do you think Ashemu? Is everyone posting right now likely town to you?
 

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tbh: the no lynch case seems rly dumb too me even 4 d1, the gist of it is "he's putting on A Act" which is stupid bc town will affect their posts too for the sake of rhetoric. attacking ruy for bad play doest'n mean anything here because there was no vote & they even said hed flip town, thats not how you attack people in mafia games, this literally boils down to ryu arguing that chastising him for doing dumb things is scummy without a permit

if anythings bad about them it's the fact that they HAVENT made a real puush yet, im not even townreading them and this is still ****en dumb, pressure joey with me instead imo
I don't get the bolded.

But I do think Joey parts is worth looking into for at least stances, not gonna vote there though.
 

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@ No Lynch No Lynch : who actually is scummy to you at this juncture? anybody? kind of annoyed bc the cases on you are awful but you haven't like, done anything aside from post words a bunch. for all youve posted i cant actually tell what your thoughts are which is weird
4/13 people have been participating so far 4 pages into the game. I'd like to be able to construct a puzzle with 4 pieces, but not even I am that spectacular.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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@Rule 13 If an cop were to be killed before he outs his results, he could go back and make it so that he is only liking posts that match his results. This is in violation of the "dead men tell no tales" idea. Since it is pretty much impossible to tell when a post was liked, I have to crack down on likes.
The act of not liking posts from the grave or if you're not in the game is a thing. There's this thing called integrity that we have, I know if I get a like notification from a dead player I'd out it n inform you. Idk, I don't make the rules I just choose to hate on em.

That's honestly just a tone I picked up for this game because I was playing with Zen, which I feel would match his style. In a sense, I've been trying to emulate his play to make it so people don't read us as two separate players, because far too many hydras end up like that, and I want Zen to be able to post whatever he likes without someone saying 'Wait is that Zen?' The same goes for me. In the context of what Ryu said, I was a bit demanding because I was trying to produce a jump scare out of him, seeing how he would react with indirect pressure and if he would actually change his style. He didn't, which is what lead me to ask how you felt about it, but apparently it's just null and just what Ruy does. I agree but kind of don't, but your analogy about the killer makes sense in this regard so sadly he still remained largely null which was the exact opposite of what I was trying to get him to do, which was something that wasn't null. I say remained because I don't think he's null right now anymore, and I think his vote on us lacks a serious focus.
This doesn't reassure me of anything I hope you know. Oh and ****in directly referring to your other head is kinda counter productive if your goal is to be treated as one head.

tbh: the no lynch case seems rly dumb too me even 4 d1, the gist of it is "he's putting on A Act" which is stupid bc town will affect their posts too for the sake of rhetoric. attacking ruy for bad play doest'n mean anything here because there was no vote & they even said hed flip town, thats not how you attack people in mafia games, this literally boils down to ryu arguing that chastising him for doing dumb things is scummy without a permit

if anythings bad about them it's the fact that they HAVENT made a real puush yet, im not even townreading them and this is still ****en dumb, pressure joey with me instead imo
Are you just ignoring my point completely on purpose or do you not see it? Your push was "ruy is scummy cuz x and y" and his counter was to shut it down completely and just... leave it at that?
 

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Why would I push No Lynch or you for telling Ryu not to do Ryu things? I don't gain anything stance wise from that, and making a general statement stating my distaste towards pushing Ryu for that stuff gets my point across just fine.

I don't get what you're trying to say, Gord. I personally don't care either way for his questioning if he gets something out of it, but people bring this up every game and it hasn't changed. We know how Ryu is as a person. Why should we continue to push this as if it's going to change? I'd much rather push other routes instead of pushing Ryu for his questions.

I don't really see anything wrong with No Lynch lol. His posts so far seem fine and I definitely don't see what's so scummy about shutting down

The closest thing I have to a scum read right now is actually Ashemu, but even then it's just one post that makes me wonder about the slot, and that post isn't even scummy enough to talk about without other posts behind it. One of those not too bad on it's own but could lead to scummy things, you know?

Every other slot that I've seen actually play the game so far seems townie to me. -shrug-
 

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There's this thing called integrity that we have, I know if I get a like notification from a dead player I'd out it n inform you.
Fair enough. I'll repeal it so that it only applies to dead people.

VOTECOUNT:
Moira [0] -
Wots All This Then? [1] - Gheb_01,
Gheb_01 [1] - Wots All This Then?
-Masquerain- [0] -
Ashemu [0] -
Red Ryu [2] - -Masquerain- , Ashemu
Gorf [0] -
No Lynch [3] - frozenflame751, Gorf, Red Ruy
Macman [0] -
Rake. [0] -
Rockin [1] -
Ranmaru [0] - Macman,
frozenflame751 [0] -

Not voting: Moira, No Lynch , Ranmaru, Rake., Rockin,

-Speaking of Upick, DH's inactivity in every game.
Hey hey hey I'm only mostly inactive
 
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@Ranmaru: re: #70 - Realtalk im up for a gheb policy lynch if hes still doing this gimmick a few more rl days in2 teh game, that ****s straight up obfuscating & anti-town
tbh: the no lynch case seems rly dumb too me even 4 d1, the gist of it is "he's putting on A Act" which is stupid bc town will affect their posts too for the sake of rhetoric. attacking ruy for bad play doest'n mean anything here because there was no vote & they even said hed flip town, thats not how you attack people in mafia games, this literally boils down to ryu arguing that chastising him for doing dumb things is scummy without a permit
Ashes to ashes funk to funky, can't you see that we are quite the same?
We both see the truth, knowing it to be too painful and complex for speech
So we hide it from the unlearned ear and pretend to play a wordy game
Well aware that for the unlearned mind the truth is still not within reach!

:059:
 

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Soup vs ryu is interesting. Not sure if this is just people getting on ryu over nothing and soup jamming it out proportion like hes done to me and rake before or if this might actually lead somewhere. Will discuss with other head
 

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@ #HBC | Gorf #HBC | Gorf : yea i just don tsee how hes actually shutting down the push by posting that. he doesnt control my vote

@Gheb: teh beef i have with youre gimmick is that i read a game where you used it, turned out to be scum, and it seemed ppl would let you get away with a lot / not question you due to how you were posting. since poetry is naturally limiting i think it allows you, as scum, to purposfully contribute little without turning as many heads

funnily enough this is p much what youre already doing, that or im just terrible at wrapping my head around what your saying (probably >_<). whos mafia? is your last line saying you agree with the sentiment that most active posters arent scummy

@Joey: uhhh waht is the post then??????? what does town have to gain from "hmmm this kinda bugs me, but not really, but im not gonna tell u what it is lol"
 

Ashemu

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lol accidentally pinged 2 ppl who wont even care about this thread. oh well collateral damage
 

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@ #HBC | Gorf #HBC | Gorf : yea i just don tsee how hes actually shutting down the push by posting that. he doesnt control my vote

@Gheb: teh beef i have with youre gimmick is that i read a game where you used it, turned out to be scum, and it seemed ppl would let you get away with a lot / not question you due to how you were posting. since poetry is naturally limiting i think it allows you, as scum, to purposfully contribute little without turning as many heads

funnily enough this is p much what youre already doing, that or im just terrible at wrapping my head around what your saying (probably >_<). whos mafia? is your last line saying you agree with the sentiment that most active posters arent scummy

@Joey: uhhh waht is the post then??????? what does town have to gain from "hmmm this kinda bugs me, but not really, but im not gonna tell u what it is lol"
Town doesn't gain anything because it's a weak point, and if I say what it is, then you can easily avoid what I think you would do as scum, which would make it way more difficult for me to read you.
 

Ashemu

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Is everyone posting right now likely town to you?
ryu i think is posting unfiltered even if i dont like the posts. the way joey is handling his stance on me as of recent posts doesnt come from scum. everybody else is just "no interest in lynching". ed1 townreads generally arent eve nreal

i want @Ranmaru to make more posts so i can get a better feel for him

Vote: Macman
@Macman you were in here yesterday but didnt answer my very simple question from teh start of the day. why?
 

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Sorry for being fashionably late, but I got distracted by the thought of people OMGUSucked *blank* and the thoughts that come about. This thread is dirty.

Simply put, I think you are trying to sling mud onto WATT for a weak reason. You don't really have much reason to discredit him from joining your push, and it seems you are trying to force one. To me, him joining you on J would be better since nothing was happening with his Gheb vote. You also say him bringing up Mac/Gheb makes no sense when it does, and especially when he gives the reasoning and you don't even acknowledge it. It would be understandable if he had reasons to hold him back yet he still went on with voting J, but there was none strong enough. (Since his vote was RVS) You also have stated that it was weird that he moved on to J while having stated that Gheb OMGUSED him. Do you think an OMGUS is good enough to stay on a vote when a seperate wagon is forming up for pressure?

Vote: No Lynch
I really like this post. Also, @bolded

I'm going to ignore you for the rest of the game until scum NK's you, because you're painfully town. Emphasis on the pain. You're giving me a headache, we're 3 pages in and you've already managed to somehow find some ~deep intricate reason~ into every actual word I say. When I told you WATT was a feeling (and that feeling being weird), that's all it will ever be. That's all it is now. I can't level with you though because you're literally putting certain things into a color-bold, underlined emphasis like there's some ulterior motive behind them. There isn't. That's why I'm telling you take what I say at face value.
Okay, first of all, that was a terrible reading of what Ranmaru said and makes it seem like you either didn't read it at all or just didn't want to read it because it didn't agree with you. Secondly, nothing in this game can be taken at face value. Nothing. It makes it seem like you're trying to get away with things, and pointing it out like this makes me think that you're trying to make it seem like you don't say anything besides what you're saying, and that's not really true now, is it?

NL, my problem with you is that you talk a lot of smack but do nothing about it. Half the time it's like you're posting just to post and the other half it's like you're trying to lead town into a dispute.

Ryu, whatever you're doing, please stop doing it right now. I don't want to have to lynch you and have you flip town because you think it's a good idea to make a bunch of vacuous statements and post a bunch of mundane questions that go nowhere.
Why do you do this? We mean that you are saying that you have to lynch Ryu for what he does every game? That isn't towny and in fact is more anti-town of you to try and lynch him for it then what he is actually doing. I say that you need to stop this line of thought. You also did a similar thing to Ranmaru essentially clearing him off his push of you. You are content to throw around town reads at the time, but not doing much to establish scum-reads/scum-hunt. J side says this is atypical play of Soup when he gets pressured early. But both sides find your tone uncomfortable this game, like you are trying to not put your foot in your mouth while swallowing your right foot or other things.

Town doesn't gain anything because it's a weak point, and if I say what it is, then you can easily avoid what I think you would do as scum, which would make it way more difficult for me to read you.
This is circular logic. You should bring up the post and talk about it even if it would be a weak post because that provides discussion for everyone who didn't see what you see. I would like to see this because Ashemu is sitting directly at null for us. I would like to see some hard things and yours seems promising. ;)
 

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So far in terms with reads, we like Gorf/Red Ryu as our town reads then we have an uncomfortable feeling towards No Lynch. The rest of the slots in the game are null at the moment.
 

Ashemu

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why is gorf town
why isnt nl worth dropping a vote on
thoughts on gheb?
 

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This is going to lead me into a sinkhole if I'm not in one already, but take note of what I told Ranmaru earlier, take what I say with Face Value. I am not saying that I have all the answers, I am merely looking for them. It's beyond frustrating to come into this thread and have someone completely misread your real intentions in the first place, especially when you feel like you've made it a good explanation for most of them. I feel like a lot of the cases on me or suspicion is skepticism and I'll be pretty damned if we get lynched over a bunch people being Skeptic about us.

Should be used to explaining yourself then
What the bloody hell do you think I've been trying to do the past 2 or 3 pages? Is there anything you really need cleared up on?? You people are so ****ing weird sometimes.
 

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Gheb is a null, he hasn't posted anything relevant. Gorf is town because I agree with a lot of what he is saying in the thread and find his push on No Lynch something a townGorf would do. He posted a lot of what both of us wanted to say towards No Lynch and therefore like him for his train of thought. No Lynch is a read we are sitting on at the current time. One side thinks they need a vote while the other side is thinking that the Soup side of the hydra could just be bad and not thinking clearly this game thus far.

Having a devil of a time figuring to vote No Lynch or not, but one side will go look for a vote-count. Just be sure to watch our back-side as we leave.
 

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Vote: No Lynch (Hydra)
nl is scum mad about being caught for the wrong reasons actaully
 

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'bad and not thinking the game thus far'

Are we serious. Why does this always happen.

Vote: No Lynch (Hydra)
nl is scum mad about being caught for the wrong reasons actaully
No, I'm mad for the same reason everytime I roll town. People say I'm bad and I scratch my damn head and more importantly, it makes me mad. I feel like I've done my part to try and be elaborative and open as possible, I seriously cannot look at myself and feel I am playing bad. This is ********.
 

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Vote: No Lynch (Hydra)
nl is scum mad about being caught for the wrong reasons actaully
Now why oh why did this vote occur from a voluptuous lady such as yourself? I mean, were you not one to say you didn't find him scummy?
 
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