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FullMetalLynch

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This is where Orboknown popped up on my radar, right here. I've seen this inane question asked a few times, but most just take it as a joke but move on. Orbo just seems...defensive.

I used the same ploy once in a game where mafia could recruit one member pre-game, as mafia. While others were playing hypotheticals, asking people "Who would you have recruited if you were mafia?" I told them "Like hell I'd play this game, civ or mafia." I later got lynched, flipped scum.
So me asking him what he will get form it, when the obvious answer to his question was either a joking "lol ya got me GGz" or "nope obvtownie"(which are both null answers) is scummy how exactly?

So yeah, this play strikes me. Almost like challenging such an inane question makes him look totally clean. There was no real reason to press this question IMO, as there's such a slim sliver of a chance that mafia would be so dumb as to actually ask that question in the first place.
Which is exactly why I asked him about it, considering he got next to nothing from ti in every situation.



This makes me think the Zen kill was a way to dirty up YOLO. Whether that dirt was to make it look too obvious for him to be mafia or whether it was a way to cast dirt to make him a lynch target later is above me yet. I don't know how any of you play, I don't know who the vets are, so I don't know who is capable of making reverse psychology plays behind the scenes.
Zen lynch was to dirty yolo. This means you think marshy's slot was town, right? I mean why would scum need to be dirties up, ecause no one is gonna bus marshy if they don't have to. But yet,
I'll stay 50/50 on YOLO/WL as of this post.
How is he fifty fifty considering what you just stated?



Related to dabuz's question still. I believe you actually did.
KBG was the only one who gave a definitive "yes/no answer" , I questioned him about thew results of the question, which is different from actually answering the question.



Okay, here's the kicker, he starts looking to push what we know is a confirmed civ under the bus and he's the one operating the gear shift at this point.
If you're gonna say everyone who pushes a mislynch is scum, then ran must be scum to, because he pushed zen's lynch into the ground right?
o wait.

Ran looks like a clueless civ to me though that's kneejerking every time someone casts suspicion or a lynch vote his way and retaliates with a revenge vote. I think mafia instincts would be to hold off, unless he was a total newb, then he might do it without knowing what to do. I'm just trying to remind myself that at this point I wouldn't have known the results.
You don't know ran, but he's a pretty solid player.





That makes an interesting read then. Was he civ in that game?
Yes, I was town.



And yet similar aggro was performed on Dabuz. How convenient that was omitted.

And at this point, you hadn't voted for him.
What are you talking about? I never went aggro on dabuz.

And yet he is. I think this might be the guy trying to get under the radar with a Zen night kill.
Stop talking zen got lynched.Not night killed.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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1. PB+J
2. Vinyl.
3. -Masquerain-
4. Red Ryu (2) - FML, WL
5. Bad Wolf
6. Missing Person
7. FML (2) - PB+J, MP
8.Keybladeguy
9. Washedlaundry
Not voting: Vinyl., Joey, Kaybladeguy, BW, RR

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline has been set to 09/26/13 at 11:59pm EST.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Alright, I'm going to save Sworddancer the trouble and replace back in. I've already been passively paying attention to this thread so I'm caught up on current events mostly.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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EBWOP: Badwolf requested for replacement in my PM. It was originally my slot so I don't think sword will have any issue.

Washed, there isn't anything that's particularly important about D1 because it was mostly centered around Zen's wacky antics and then him self-hammering. There was a bit of talk about FML (mostly just me and YOLO) but the true meat of it is how that wagon was formed and the connections established with it, but I'm not just blowing smoke here. I don't understand why you would openly ignore this, and how you're townreading FML and PJB quite frankly. I agree with your Ryu read however, especially if he's dabuns.
 

FullMetalLynch

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yea ryu is dabunz.
soup whats going on with vimyl ya think? is his refusal to help scummy or just a vinyl thing?
 

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**** it, we're running out of time and I need to out this earlier than later.

I'm the doctor, Dabuz protected PJB n1, don't ask me why he did that over others I have no clue what his thought process via NAs was.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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yea ryu is dabunz.
soup whats going on with vimyl ya think? is his refusal to help scummy or just a vinyl thing?
Just a Vinyl. thing, but that doesn't imply that he couldn't be scum. He's inherently anti-town regardless of alignment so lynching him is just a matter of pressure. I can't tell you anything other that I wouldn't be against lynching him in any situation, however, there are much more frutiful pushes. FML, something in the back of my head about you that I've disliked (at least from your early play) is that you seemed really non-chalant and your content seems very rushed. I recall your reasoning for (I think it was me?) it was just so poorly worded and thought-out that It wasn't just believable. This is scummy not only because it's being wishy-washy about your stances, but also because you're usually not one to leave out details, more or less ones you're confident on. You've also been throwing my name out there, but you haven't really done anything with it. Why? Is it a matter of preference? Lack of confidence?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I think it's optimal to claim regardless of alignment. I don't take it as anything other than null until I see otherwise.
 

FullMetalLynch

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a lot of it was rushed because ive been posting from work a lot on pretty busy nights, especially late d1. thats the majority of that right there. as to you, we're not sure whether its town or scum soup as e've seen elements and hints to both. im actually fine with going vinyl today because his voting tendancies, especially if you look at puzzle bobble, a extremely dangerous when it comes to hammering.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Keyblade's vote really reads to me as a scummer just looking for a lynch, let alone playing it safe.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I literally ISO'd keybladeguy and he has little to no reason for anything, and his play reeks, regardless of newbie excuses. I hate falling back on 'easier choices' because I know how many people will get upset about someone lynching someone who is inherently anti-town and not helping in the slightest, but I'd like to lynch Keybladeguy at this point, that is, if Red Ryu isn't CC'd. Then it changes things.
 

FullMetalLynch

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Just a Vinyl. thing, but that doesn't imply that he couldn't be scum. He's inherently anti-town regardless of alignment so lynching him is just a matter of pressure. I can't tell you anything other that I wouldn't be against lynching him in any situation, however, there are much more frutiful pushes. FML, something in the back of my head about you that I've disliked (at least from your early play) is that you seemed really non-chalant and your content seems very rushed. I recall your reasoning for (I think it was me?) it was just so poorly worded and thought-out that It wasn't just believable. This is scummy not only because it's being wishy-washy about your stances, but also because you're usually not one to leave out details, more or less ones you're confident on. You've also been throwing my name out there, but you haven't really done anything with it. Why? Is it a matter of preference? Lack of confidence?

I'm always kinda wishy washy on you, there was stuff i didn't like, but then me and Orbo kinda discussed you and I kinda went: Well maybe. And i keep getting these mixed feels like I'm missing an aspect of your play or something, or like I read your content and just don't get what it is it's doing.

I'm honestly not trying to rush content but I can understand that POV, i think what your seeing is kind of me(Rake) getting morso into my town groove and multiposting as my ideas bounce around. it may seem poorly worded but I think that comes morseo from me getting all these mixed feels that I can't actually describe them well, s i end up posting what makes sense to me or something, but it ends up being lackluster as a result, I'm trying to organize myself to not do this, because actually noticed myself as i've re-read a similar tendancy.

I'm not trying to be wishy washy or leave out details in all hoesty, I'n trying to get the details right and have my reads get to a place i'm truly comfortable with. It's because I'm not confident in you that I leave out details. Honestly after Scott Pilgrim i'm kinda hesitant to throw out the wifomy details and such, because it always just ends with me explaining everything and then being lynched anyway. The crappy thing is i'm extremely used to this style so actively restraining myself has been a experiment I don't think I'll try again.

Even now I'm slipping back into what i'm comfortable with, because I've kind of decided that if it works and ain't broke in the truest sense, i don't need to fix it.

I haven't done anything with your slot basically because Ryu took priority, so preference in a sense. BW wasn't here so it kinda just became a see what happens and go back to it ideal.

Now that your back though I would like to talk to you abotu Ryu, this claim thing first and then the points laundere made, and then take some time to chat with ya and see what's what
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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a lot of it was rushed because ive been posting from work a lot on pretty busy nights, especially late d1. thats the majority of that right there. as to you, we're not sure whether its town or scum soup as e've seen elements and hints to both. im actually fine with going vinyl today because his voting tendancies, especially if you look at puzzle bobble, a extremely dangerous when it comes to hammering.

Elaborate on it. Obviously it's more than just a feeling.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Rake you posted this

Dabuz and soup were our picks based on zen and rans town flip, we aren't the only one's interested in that. both have replaced out and we'll have to deal with their replacements. Vocal is an "inactive mother****ing nulls" deal
You odn't have to stop scumreading us to work with us, just stop being an obstinate *** and talk over the possibilities with us. It's literally that simple, you need to stop scum goggling us so hard.
Could you tell me why Dabuz was your pick, along with me? Is it a connection thing? I think I've openly stated dislike about dabuns a couple of times now.

 

FullMetalLynch

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Plus too, like Orbo said his presence here and in our qt is kinda off and on.

His mixed feels don't helpeitehr, because usually Orbo's kinda the one to say : Rake ur being dumb look at x y or z, and then i get ideas going.

I'm not trying to sound all self justifying, but it does effect the patent-pending process that is FML :/
 

FullMetalLynch

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Rake you posted this



Could you tell me why Dabuz was your pick, along with me? Is it a connection thing? I think I've openly stated dislike about dabuns a couple of times now.
Actually Orbo posted that IIRC.

Lemme just think here for a sec though i may still be able to address it if Orbo doesnt ninja me
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I really find it a tad humorous when people tell me my D1 was bad they can't even elaborate what was so bad about it *cough* Ryu *cough*
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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@Ryu-Lynch soup today, probably. Scum if soup town is probably in marshy, you, or vocal/vinyl/kbg.
I can live with kbg or vocal or vinyl getting axed today as well because it's the last chance we will get. to do the inactive thing.
Again. You're stating that you dislike me, even enough to say that you want to lynch me, but..

Vote: Ryu
You went forward with Ryu instead. Why? I don't get this love-hate relationship on me. You need to stop dodging me by making excuses such as you being scatterbrained, because I don't believe it's the case. You're coherent about some things yet you're almost vague about others. The other in this case being the read on me. It feels as if you're putting me on the backburner only for the sake of trying to look consistent, without having the guts to actually push me.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Red Ryu seems like apathetic scummer who hates every moment of this game because he can't bull**** a read to save his life. His switch onto FML literally offered nothing at all and he's been openly ignoring Washed for no good reason. Seriously, am I really that hard to read? Jesus christ.

I don't think Ryu/Rake are aligned, based on all this however. Rake had all the motivation to push me there but instead he went on Ryu instead. There's also the fact Ryu literally just jumped at the opportunity to vote Rake. Not a partner deal.
 

FullMetalLynch

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ryu obviously wouldnt want to lynch himself and i wanted him to to act out on soup feelings and see if he actually went through with it. it was in line with my soup read, so i was trying to use it to draw connections but ryu refused ti talk about it.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Okay, so let's assume Ryu is real. Where's your head at then? Would you agree to lynching Keybladeguy? Vinyl.?
 
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