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Work In Progress Video Arkive & Critique Thread ~Updating in progress 45 chars done~

Victor Coelho

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Hey there folks!

I recently decided to play Link (after finishing Link between worlds, Wind Waker and, almost, twilight princess) and i'd like to get better in my game. This smash bros is the first time i take this franchise seriously and your advice would be very appreciated. Im playing with a friend in this vid (which, BTW, is a FAR better player than me...he's been having the patience to train with me regularly and thanks to him and other friends i managed to understand the game and learn a lot quick) and i think this was my best performance with Link to date. As you will see, the final part of this battle is amazing and, believe me, it wasn't unintentional. Check it out and let me know what you guys think please.. thanks in advance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzZjlZw0O3M&feature=youtu.be
 

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Wow, this makes me very happy. I loved bombsliding in brawl, it was an important component of my playstyle.
I remember you from back in the days. Your brawl combo vid was great in my memory, is it still on youtube?
 

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Cool! New faces always make me happy. :)
Some videos of me playing Link, I'm still not used to the 3ds controls and will probably get a XL to feel more comfortable. Been retired from smash for the past 4 years, this new smash got me hyped to come back to it. So far I really like Sm4sh Link.

These are all online for glory matches. Have some other replays that will try to upload later.

FEaR7 (Link) vs Captain Falcon:
http://youtu.be/pRjitk9Sqj8

FEaR7 (Link) vs Ganondorf:
http://youtu.be/Ne667VHYVjU
http://youtu.be/2cKTdxroMCU

FEaR7 (Link) vs Yoshi:
http://youtu.be/sJHgNSLrpDw

FEaR7 (Link) vs Diddy Kong:
http://youtu.be/puAfWEsAoY0

Still have ways to go, can't wait for the WiiU version and the GC controller.
Your Link is pretty good for one coming out of retirement. You picked up Sm4sh link quite well. :) 3ds controls are a bit weird at first, and everyone's meta is expected to improve once the WiiU version comes out. The hype is real, yo!
Hey there folks!

I recently decided to play Link (after finishing Link between worlds, Wind Waker and, almost, twilight princess) and i'd like to get better in my game. This smash bros is the first time i take this franchise seriously and your advice would be very appreciated. Im playing with a friend in this vid (which, BTW, is a FAR better player than me...he's been having the patience to train with me regularly and thanks to him and other friends i managed to understand the game and learn a lot quick) and i think this was my best performance with Link to date. As you will see, the final part of this battle is amazing and, believe me, it wasn't unintentional. Check it out and let me know what you guys think please.. thanks in advance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzZjlZw0O3M&feature=youtu.be
I see you got a pretty good grasp on Link. There are some moves you should start utilizing: Foward Tilt and Up Tilt. These are great kill moves at high%. Utilt can start combos at mid%, and Ftilt can edge-guard opponents as well as punish rolls.
 

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I remember you from back in the days. Your brawl combo vid was great in my memory, is it still on youtube?
Thanks. It's still there:
http://youtu.be/7eWveN0z60w

The songs I used got removed by YouTube eons ago and I never got to add new audio.

I'm looking forward to represent Link again, just regret that never played PM as I hear Link is really solid there.
 
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Got some really good FG matches yesterday. They really helped make my Link better than ever.
11/8/14
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Elessar (Custom):4link:[1] - http://youtu.be/Iymho8fkndM
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Elessar (Custom):4link:[2] - http://youtu.be/8-M9fI-5CKg
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Elessar:4link:[3] - http://youtu.be/oxj3VEWujrk
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11/12/14
Powerstar9:4link: vs. ??:4sonic: [1] - http://youtu.be/kRM8mRVQzvY
Powerstar9:4link: vs. ??:4sonic: [2] - http://youtu.be/rsiFAWI_KKg
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Dragoom:4ness: - http://youtu.be/g40JvKALZUk
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Dragoom:4diddy:- http://youtu.be/X00RmVHIlbA
Powerstar9:4link: vs. theelectricgorilla (Disqo):4diddy: - http://youtu.be/AQ-HlAc-Ah4

Critique/Analysis/Thoughts are greatly appreciated as usual.
 

Victor Coelho

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Cool! New faces always make me happy. :)

I see you got a pretty good grasp on Link. There are some moves you should start utilizing: Foward Tilt and Up Tilt. These are great kill moves at high%. Utilt can start combos at mid%, and Ftilt can edge-guard opponents as well as punish rolls.
Hey bud thanks for the comments! Yes i always forget to make use of ftilt and uptilt for killing blows... usually use uptilt for combos and strings and only for that lol. I will try to implent those on my gameplan, specially ftilt for edge guarding... thaanks for the tips!

Also, how the freaking hell do you perform a bombslide? I've read some threads explaining but it all seemed so complicated, specially on the 3ds pad... can somebody help me? thanks !
 
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Hey bud thanks for the comments! Yes i always forget to make use of dtilt and uptilt for killing blows... usually use uptilt for combos and strings and only for that lol. I will try to implent those on my gameplan, specially ftilt for edge guarding... thaanks for the tips!

Also, how the freaking hell do you perform a bombslide? I've read some threads explaining but it all seemed so complicated, specially on the 3ds pad... can somebody help me? thanks !
you can basically only do it in training mode in 1/4 speed or 1/2 or 2/3 depends on how quick your right thumb is. The button input is as follows:

During a dash while holding a bomb press A. Then move you control stick up and press A again.

Do this quickly
 

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@ Ryu_Ken Ryu_Ken Were those all the ditto matches we played? I think I recall one more where I killed you with a bair stage spike. Anyways. We need to play more, hopefully with less lag this time around. And again, sorry for using custom Link without letting you know. I always use his customs when custom is on.
 

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@ Ryu_Ken Ryu_Ken Were those all the ditto matches we played? I think I recall one more where I killed you with a bair stage spike. Anyways. We need to play more, hopefully with less lag this time around. And again, sorry for using custom Link without letting you know. I always use his customs when custom is on.
[Gosh dangit that replay is gone. RIP replay. :(]

No hard feelings. I can only do nights (Probably from 9PM-1AM CST) today and tomorrow since I have a contest to go to during the day.
 
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Gosh dangit that replay is gone. RIP replay. :(
 

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We need to avenge its memory; there shall be others!
 

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We need to avenge its memory; there shall be others!
Expect to see some highly aggressive play. If you couldn't tell from the Sonic, Ness, and Diddy matches, I've become totally IN THE ZONE. Currently I'm mastering Link's B-Reversals as possible mind game and retreat tactics.
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I think that a couple of the other videos you posted from your fights with Elessar were also repeats.
Just checked, the ones I uploaded to YouTube and the ones on this thread aren't repeats.
 
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Expect to see some highly aggressive play..

Come at me star boy. I've been focusing more on basics and almost nothing on Ats, so don't expect to see anything from me.
 
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Just checked, the ones I uploaded to YouTube and the ones on this thread aren't repeats.
Ok. I'm doing something wrong then I guess. lol Those are really intense matches btw. We need to get more of our community playing each other.
 

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These are some ok matches!
But fun to watch
These matches aren't amazing me. But me, COH, Waldo, LNIAD
 
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These are some ok matches!
But fun to watch
These matches aren't amazing me. But me, COH, Waldo, LNIAD
Do you guys have good sm4sh videos to show off? I mean, how can you claim to be the best when guys like Scizor are doing so much to actually show how good they are in tournaments, and you aren't? I've been watching for better Links but I just don't see many that are so great as to make guys like Scizor and Keitaro look bad, you know?

For the record though, I don't claim to be that good. I just like to play as Link.

EDIT: I also have a couple new videos to share. Critiques please. :)

CostLow vs Baikou (Link) - 11/14/14 For Glory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_WD7i3zcnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQQInOBkihA

I lost to this guy a lot more often than I won, but these are the two matches that I have recorded that are the most extreme in one person's favor or the other. Most of our matches came down to the wire with only a few seconds remaining and 120% damage on each of us. lol
 
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Edit: Sorry about the double-post. It looked like someone posted after me, when I started this.
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Semi-finals and finals of a Chinese Twitch tournament on Oct 25, 2014.

Semi-finals: Zero613 :4link: vs alanchou3ds :4greninja: (Fights start @ 5:10)
Finals: Zero 613 :4link: vs lam89682568 :4myfriends: (Fights start @ 1:35)

Ike wins pretty easily, but it's still something showing that there are others repping Link.
 
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Do you guys have good sm4sh videos to show off? I mean, how can you claim to be the best when guys like Scizor are doing so much to actually show how good they are in tournaments, and you aren't? I've been watching for better Links but I just don't see many that are so great as to make guys like Scizor and Keitaro look bad, you know?

For the record though, I don't claim to be that good. I just like to play as Link.

EDIT: I also have a couple new videos to share. Critiques please. :)

CostLow vs Baikou (Link) - 11/14/14 For Glory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_WD7i3zcnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQQInOBkihA

I lost to this guy a lot more often than I won, but these are the two matches that I have recorded that are the most extreme in one person's favor or the other. Most of our matches came down to the wire with only a few seconds remaining and 120% damage on each of us. lol
You got a point I meant on ssbb. COH can defeat and Link he is very good.
Those were great videos tho
 

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First time asking for a critique. So Link boards... how am I doin'?

11/09/14
Red (Link) vs. A-say (Bowser) - For Glory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNv4kC1sN7c

11/16/14
Red (Link) vs. York (Falco) - Smashladder friendlies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDbJ-OUojXU

Red (Link vs. York (Falco) - Smashladder friendlies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17W0kr1ho6g

Also
Brb... re-learning this. I did this all the time in Brawl and I'm glad it's still here.
 
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I'm gonna separate my matches into categories since I have so many of them.

11/15/14
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Emmanuel:4mario: - http://youtu.be/i5UOoGI2bcY
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Zenas:4littlemac: - http://youtu.be/PDMx4auBsFs
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Zenas:4ganondorf: - http://youtu.be/I_MjKH5iEGQ
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Zenas:4pit: - http://youtu.be/JVmCzAFdk7E
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Zenas:4marth: - http://youtu.be/KOdTo5adZU4
Powerstar9:4link: vs. :4diddy: - http://youtu.be/OJBQzYVmVvs
____________________________________________________________________________
11/16/14
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Elessar:4lucina:
1 - http://youtu.be/o89ygzSnQTg
2 - http://youtu.be/VzO9o2YCKUk
3 - http://youtu.be/JUn1m6ZBm54
4 - http://youtu.be/tbLavNvDZ1E
5 - http://youtu.be/ufwhGBX27oY
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Elessar:4link:
1 - http://youtu.be/FQvbQmPPHMI
2 - http://youtu.be/jLxLYi3zG_4
3 - http://youtu.be/i3oLoh44FOg
4 - http://youtu.be/22jsklL_QPQ
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Elessar (Custom):4link:
1 - http://youtu.be/erou-AgV_9E
2 - http://youtu.be/WxvWBr1BzyE
3 - http://youtu.be/tfn4zWn82fc
4 - http://youtu.be/bOMfPd_F-AU
5 - http://youtu.be/S_Wb9TTmqr0
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Probo:4jigglypuff:
1 - http://youtu.be/dljvOPkaHO4
2 - http://youtu.be/-tkuQsuJfXs
3 - http://youtu.be/Qfg9ZPJ72g4
4 - http://youtu.be/vpHRfeLbc2Q
5 - http://youtu.be/AmtN_2Xv6l0
6 - http://youtu.be/GDdzat29NFI
7 - http://youtu.be/iFYsTSMLukk

I think I gave it my 100% on all these matches (except for the Zenas matches). I really like some Critique/Analysis/Thoughts, please.
Suggestion: u think u can organize the videos by character? I think it would make things really convenient for those looking for specific MUs. I like how the current organization shows progress, but I prefer seeing how Link does against other characters.
 
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Damn that's a lot of new videos X_X

Suggestion: u think u can organize the videos by character? I think it would make things really convenient for those looking for specific MUs. I like how the current organization shows progress, but I prefer seeing how Link does against other characters.
I'll come up with a way that shows both progress and videos by character. Will just take a lot of work to do. Thanks for the suggestion!

Also guys can you remember to put the dates for your vids please!

Also I'm going to be away for about a week so no updates till then.
 
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So many videos. LOL
WiiU smash is almost here!
Good Videos tho.
When WiiU smash come out anyone wanna Link ditto? :)
 
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With all due respect to zero613, I'm not at all impressed by his Link.

Boomerang. Arrow. Attack or Roll. Boomerang. Arrow. Attack or Roll. Repeat; repeat.

The pattern is obvious after the third time he does it, and gameplay like that is easily punishable by a good player.
 

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With all due respect to zero613, I'm not at all impressed by his Link.

Boomerang. Arrow. Attack or Roll. Boomerang. Arrow. Attack or Roll. Repeat; repeat.

The pattern is obvious after the third time he does it, and gameplay like that is easily punishable by a good player.
I definitely understand your critique but I'd like to point out something here. When I said that these were Chinese tournaments, I was wrong. This was actually from a Taiwanese tournament. After talking to some of the guys from the tournament, I found out that Smash bros. is not popular at all there and that competitive play is almost non-existent. I think that has a lot to do with how poorly zero performed compared to what you are surely used to seeing. I still feel like this was a good thing for this thread to have in its collection of videos simply for that reason. I think the smash community in Taiwan will grow, but clearly not like in the states and japan.
 
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This is the start of the 1.0.4. matches. Matches of previous versions are now considered outdated. We must begin anew!
All of these have been recorded on 11/19/14
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Pichu (AKA funcrazyfish):4shulk: - http://youtu.be/AFeaiWW9CP8
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Ben:4jigglypuff:
1 - http://youtu.be/lQB-Xjep1Kc
2 - http://youtu.be/l0xTJBPh1pI
3 - http://youtu.be/2S_qqGBEXhM
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Zae26:4kirby: - http://youtu.be/mxSUTmZYJY0
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Zae26:4ness: - http://youtu.be/cp1HJkTjPZc
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Kal:rosalina:
1 - http://youtu.be/jTBopOqMsqE
2 - http://youtu.be/A9JH6UuB0r8
3 - http://youtu.be/fdaJa-UGJZQ
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Kal:4zelda: - http://youtu.be/0lW1EzQsy1k
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Kal:4link: - http://youtu.be/d6e8_jLK1c4
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Kal:4ness: - http://youtu.be/GDWnV3fm5Ek
Powerstar9:4link: vs. Kal:4palutena: - http://youtu.be/X5UEzqyWWtQ
 
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@ Scabe Scabe - here's the videos sorted by Matchup and by Player, as of the most recent update I saw to your OP. I know you said it would take you some time, but I thought I'd try to help you out some. If you don't like how I did it, that's fine, but they are at least in order. :)

By Matchup
:4bowser:
Powerstar9 vs SmashSteve [1]
:4bowserjr:
Elessar vs Oblivion [2]
Scizor vs JヨD [1]
:4falcon:
FEaR7 vs ??? [1]
:4diddy:
FEaR7 vs ??? [1]
Keitaro vs Jtails [1]
Powerstar9 vs. God [1]
:4dk:
Elessar vs Oblivion [4]
Powerstar9 vs RetroGajin [1]
:4duckhunt:
Scizor vs Ducksen [1]
:4falco:
Powerstar9 vs. Mo [1]
:4fox:
Elessar vs Link [1]
Powerstar9 vs. Mo [2,3]
Scizor vs VillageMascot [1]
:4ganondorf:
FEaR7 vs ??? [1,2]
:4greninja:
Elessar vs Oblivion [3]
Keitaro vs Bajisci [1]
Powerstar9 vs. 1FOW1 [1]
Zero613 vs alanchou3ds (Fights start @ 5:10) [Semi-finals]
:4myfriends:
Elessar vs Oblivion [1]
Zero 613 vs lam89682568 (Fights start @ 1:35) [Finals]
:4jigglypuff:
Powerstar9 vs ??? [1]
Powerstar9 vs SmashSteve [2]
:4kirby:
Powerstar9 vs SoopahS [1]
:4link:
CostLow vs Baikou [1,2]
Costlow vs Franck [1]
Hashimo vs GAZER [1]
Hashimo vs Smasher [1]
Powerstar9 vs di-pi [1]
Powerstar9 vs JaGm [1]
Powerstar9 vs Relapse [1,2]
Scizor vs VillageMascot [1]
:4littlemac:
Ken vs PKSparkxx [1]
:4lucina:
Powerstar9 vs Elessar [1,2,3]
thedoctr vs Mike [1]
:4luigi:
Powerstar9 vs. Jommeez [1]
:4mario:
Ken vs Nyani [1]
Powerstar9 vs ??? [1]
thedoctr vs Mr. C [1]
:4marth:
thedoctr vs Shawn [1]
:4megaman:
Scizor vs Ducksen [1]
:4ness:
Victor Coelho vs Alexis [1]
:4palutena:
thedoctr vs Raqet [1]
:4peach:
Powerstar9 vs. Johnny [1]
:4rob:
Keitaro vs Chibo [1]
thedoctr vs Mike [1]
:4robinf:
Keitaro vs Nairo [1]
:rosalina:
Hashimo vs 9B [1,2]
Powerstar9 vs. Zack [1]
Powerstar9 vs [Some Face] [1]
:4sheik:
Powerstar9 vs. ??? [1]
Powerstar9 vs. Zolda [1]
:4sonic:
Costlow vs ??? [1]
Powerstar9 vs Thouvexed [1]
:4tlink:
Powerstar9 vs k£vin [1]
Powerstar9 vs NAKAT [1]
:4wario:
Costlow vs Dorian [1]
:4yoshi:
Costlow vs ??? [1]
FEaR7 vs ??? [1]
:4zss:
Powerstar9 vs. Slayer [1]
Ken vs PKSparkxx [1]


By Player
CostLow vs Baikou :4link: [1,2]
Costlow vs Dorian :4wario: [1]
Costlow vs Franck :4link: [1]
Costlow vs ??? :4sonic: [1]
Costlow vs ??? :4yoshi: [1]
Elessar vs Link :4fox: [1]
Elessar vs Oblivion:4myfriends: [1]
Elessar vs Oblivion :4bowserjr: [2]
Elessar vs Oblivion :4greninja: [3]
Elessar vs Oblivion :4dk:[4]
Powerstar9 vs Elessar :4lucina: [1,2,3]
FEaR7 vs ??? :4falcon: [1]
FEaR7 vs ??? :4diddy: [1]
FEaR7 vs ??? :4ganondorf: [1,2]
FEaR7 vs ??? :4yoshi: [1]
Hashimo vs 9B :rosalina: [1,2]
Hashimo vs GAZER :4link: [1]
Hashimo vs Smasher :4link: [1]
Keitaro vs Bajisci :4greninja: [1]
Keitaro vs Chibo :4rob: [1]
Keitaro vs Jtails :4diddy: [1]
Keitaro vs Nairo :4robinf: [1]
Ken vs Nyani :4mario: [1]
Ken vs PKSparkxx:4littlemac::4zss: [1]
Powerstar9 vs. 1FOW1:4greninja: [1]
Powerstar9 vs di-pi:4link: [1]
Powerstar9 vs. God :4diddy: [1]
Powerstar9 vs JaGm:4link: [1]
Powerstar9 vs. Johnny:4peach: [1]
Powerstar9 vs. Jommeez:4luigi: [1]
Powerstar9 vs k£vin:4tlink: [1]
Powerstar9 vs. Mo:4falco: [1]
Powerstar9 vs. Mo:4fox: [2,3]
Powerstar9 vs NAKAT:4tlink: [1]
Powerstar9 vs RetroGajin:4dk: [1]
Powerstar9 vs. Slayer:4zss: [1]
Powerstar9 vs SmashSteve:4bowser: [1]
Powerstar9 vs SmashSteve:4jigglypuff: [2]
Powerstar9 vs SoopahS:4kirby: [1]
Powerstar9 vs Thouvexed:4sonic: [1]
Powerstar9 vs. Zack:rosalina: [1]
Powerstar9 vs. Zolda:4sheik: [1]
Powerstar9 vs. ??? :4sheik: [1]
Powerstar9 vs Relapse:4link: [1,2]
Powerstar9 vs Elessar :4lucina: [1,2,3]
Powerstar9 vs [Some Face]:rosalina: [1]
Powerstar9 vs ??? :4jigglypuff: [1]
Powerstar9 vs ??? :4mario:[1]
Scizor vs Ducksen :4megaman: &:4duckhunt: [1]
Scizor vs JヨD :4roy: [1]
Scizor vs VillageMascot :4link: & :4fox: [1]
thedoctr vs Mike :4lucina: [1]
thedoctr vs Mr. C :4mario: [1]
thedoctr vs Shawn :4marth: [1]
thedoctr vs Raqet :4palutena: [1]
thedoctr vs Mike :4rob: [1]
Victor Coelho vs Alexis :4ness: [1]
Zero613 vs alanchou3ds :4greninja: (Fights start @ 5:10) [Semi-finals]
Zero 613 vs lam89682568 :4myfriends: (Fights start @ 1:35) [Finals]
 

Ryu_Ken

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^Ah. So that's where the video section wen't. NOICE.
 

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Problem with those videos is that they could be outdated, and so useless as a reference for MU.
 

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Not useless. Just less useful. Most players and characters will still use similar tactics in battles because none of the characters have had such a fundamental change that the entire meta for that character would have to be revamped. Even with the loss of a toss-cancel, Link will still be played as a very space conscious fighter with projectile pressure and defense.
 

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Quick question, I'll be recording Wii U matches soon are we planning on separating 3DS and Wii U videos with a separate thread?
 

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Quick question, I'll be recording Wii U matches soon are we planning on separating 3DS and Wii U videos with a separate thread?
Once Scabe gets back, we can figure it all out. For now, just post the WiiU matches here. I can't wait to see them!
 
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