Maven89
Smash Master
There's a lot of options in between those two options, why did you chose to just list the most extreme examples?very very rare instances where lying can win the game, but lying to lie is atrocious.
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There's a lot of options in between those two options, why did you chose to just list the most extreme examples?very very rare instances where lying can win the game, but lying to lie is atrocious.
It wasn't a meta comment? I posted about things regarding the community's views on liking posts. It has nothing pertaining to the game besides just starting a line of conversation with Dastrn, but it isn't meta commenting soooo yeah.Meta commenting isn't being involved in the discussion!
Because it's what I choose to believe plus exacerbating the current conversation of LAL as PL is droning for me. It nets nothing to find scum and nets only content anyone can chime in on and say "here's my opinion". Do you feel the conversation has a trajectory of success to finding scum minus that of getting us out of RVS?There's a lot of options in between those two options, why did you chose to just list the most extreme examples?
This coming from your 2nd post of the game, and your first post of substance. This post is my 6th of the game, 5th of significant substance, and even my "random vote" carried meaning.Vote Dastrn
I agree strongly with the "Sometimes Town needs to lie" sentiment. I don't like Dastrn's "Lynch all liars policy."
Dastrn I'd like to hear more from you. I'm voting to put pressure on.
Getting us out of RVS is what is trying to be accomplished, so I don't know what you mean by "minus getting us out of RVS". Seeing as nothing big has happened yet, I don't really see what else we could be talking about.Do you feel the conversation has a trajectory of success to finding scum minus that of getting us out of RVS?
Is it a matter of interpretation that there's a weird dichotomy between J and Maven, or a matter of interpretation that Maven insists J is not participating? I don't know what's supposedly up for interpretation, nor do I see a dichotomy.There's a weird dichotomy between J and Maven where Maven insists J is not participating, but it all feels like it's a matter of interpretation.
Maven insists that J posting (participation) is not actually participation because it does not fall in line what he considers to be participation, thus creating a dichotomy.Getting us out of RVS is what is trying to be accomplished, so I don't know what you mean by "minus getting us out of RVS". Seeing as nothing big has happened yet, I don't really see what else we could be talking about.
Is it a matter of interpretation that there's a weird dichotomy between J and Maven, or a matter of interpretation that Maven insists J is not participating? I don't know what's supposedly up for interpretation, nor do I see a dichotomy.
Oh, OK. I didn't think of the possibility of a dichotomy of two different interpretations of participation. That makes more sense now.Maven insists that J posting (participation) is not actually participation because it does not fall in line what he considers to be participation, thus creating a dichotomy.
I like them so far. I can't dislike someone who is posting exactly the same thoughts I am having and someone I've posted twice now saying I agree with them.#HBC | J how do you feel about Pheonix thus far?
I'll state my opinions, and ask you the same question. Turn for turn, fair enough? Given how directly you demanded my opinion, I'll assume you'll grant me equal access to your reads.Dastrn now I need you to decide who is scummiest and towniest
Why are you suspicious of Ryker and me?Yeah I'm not liking that answer either
Suspicious people so far, for me, are Dastrn, Ryker, and Spak. No one is town, though I had Dastrn as my town lean until recently, due to him doing what I accused J of doing
How would you prefer I respond?I don't know your meta but that's a poorly hashed reason to not respond to someone, and also makes it really easy for you to dodge something that you can just fall back on.
Vote: Dastrn
I wasn't sure about your approach but so far you haven't really impressed me.
Was it the meta-commenting that you don't like? I'm asking just for clarification.Yeah I'm not liking that answer either
Suspicious people so far, for me, are Dastrn, Ryker, and Spak. No one is town, though I had Dastrn as my town lean until recently, due to him doing what I accused J of doing
Fair enough. Your Ryker suspicion makes sense at this stage and I guess I can't argue with a gut read.Ryker for awkward RVS and you for gut reasons relating to what you've contributed. It's unfair to say someone hasn't contributed enough in their posts at this stage, there's definitely people who have contributed less, but gut is still telling me to keep an eye on you because of light content.
I believe town reads help town out more then mafia because it forces mafia to give town reads, which limits their play. And generally mafia have a pretty good sense of who is doing good and who is doing bad.How would you prefer I respond?
I have never been one to give town reads out. Consensus town reads are the easiest scum night kills. Just kill someone no one suspects, so that all of the suspicions from the previous day still lie around to bicker about.
I don't have any strong scum reads. My only scum read so far has been Spak, and my vote is on him. I didn't like how he responded to the RVS pressure. That's not a terribly strong read, but it's what I've got for now. None of this transition has yet drawn enough of my attention to pull me towards a scum read on anyone since. I'll reread this evening, but for now, that's what I've got, and I gave it.
Was it the meta-commenting that you don't like? I'm asking just for clarification.
I'd disagree with this point. Mafia can drop a town read on just about anyone if they want. They can reinterpret their scum-mates as town to try to sway pressure off of them. Or if they are bussing (directly or indirectly), they can just agree with other obvious town reads, or say they like the manner of questioning of someone, or whatever. They know who's scum and who's not, so they can make friends by giving their town reads to people who will think "I want this guy around, since he reads me town" playing on people's survival instinct.I believe town reads help town out more then mafia because it forces mafia to give town reads, which limits their play. And generally mafia have a pretty good sense of who is doing good and who is doing bad.
Feeling conflicted on Phoenix myself mostly since it feels so....null and not there to care to me.I like them so far. I can't dislike someone who is posting exactly the same thoughts I am having and someone I've posted twice now saying I agree with them.
Vibes good, content is null though.
Who do you think is scum right now off a best guess?Fair enough. Your Ryker suspicion makes sense at this stage and I guess I can't argue with a gut read.
My best guess is Ryker. I agree that he had a wonky RVS stage, and his most recent post was a random switch to Corps with no justification after Maven accused him of dodging. Seems like he wants to appear active, but hasn't seriously commented on anything that has happened yet.Who do you think is scum right now off a best guess?
You're not new to mafia, correct?I don't know why Delamar asked me if I think there's merit in it given I answered how I felt about it [...]
I have an issue with the fact it took you this long to roll out your read on Spak, and instead you've just spent time sitting in your armchair, however, I'm really just guessing at this point that this is how you play. Even if you're a bit analytical there is a vibe that you're analyzing things for the sake of analyzing them, not to develop your reads further. That's where I lie with you and so long as you continue to show the same behavior I will probably keep my vote on you.Dastrn said:How would you prefer I respond?
I have never been one to give town reads out. Consensus town reads are the easiest scum night kills. Just kill someone no one suspects, so that all of the suspicions from the previous day still lie around to bicker about.
I don't have any strong scum reads. My only scum read so far has been Spak, and my vote is on him. I didn't like how he responded to the RVS pressure. That's not a terribly strong read, but it's what I've got for now. None of this transition has yet drawn enough of my attention to pull me towards a scum read on anyone since. I'll reread this evening, but for now, that's what I've got, and I gave it.
I got what he meant but my answer still remained the same.You're not new to mafia, correct?
Oh? Tell me more. What about my RVS was wonky? What had Infaioed to comment on at the time of my last post? This is an interesting opinion you have.My best guess is Ryker. I agree that he had a wonky RVS stage, and his most recent post was a random switch to Corps with no justification after Maven accused him of dodging. Seems like he wants to appear active, but hasn't seriously commented on anything that has happened yet.
I'm sorry? I think I asked you a question ...I got what he meant but my answer still remained the same.
I don't normally gauge activity by post count but yeah.Gheb, J, Dastrn, we're all willing to lynch inactive if we have someone at under 10 posts at the end of D1, yeah?