Tranquility - Game Over

[#HBC | Laundry]

Nope.

Everyone just makes up their own random reason to hate it, it's like hate Christmas only the presents are people ****ting on what may have been the towniest thing I did the entire game: question a read.

Because it's a) obtuse and had been immediately labeled as such by slots like Circus and Potato and b) it only came about when i mentioned something and it was a massive about face

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I don't have much ability to read Laundry. But I don't think my perception of events is wrong here, especially since I just read the whole thread today.

That said, this is about the most political I've heard you sound in a game thus far. What gives?

 

[Shenanigenius]

Oh my gog I hate this vote.

Marshy pls be good at math

vote: Shenan

People hate that we didn't move our vote D1, so I vote someone to show intent here to make it clear.
People hate that I voted someone: you're not making this easy to contribute.


@Washed: you can tell me that it was a full moon too and it won't change when I came to thread and why I was bothered by it. We'll talk in post I guess.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Just skimming Nabe and shenan's interaction on this page... it's weird. I just have a gut strange feeling about it. That is all.

I wouldn't skim it if it's weird to you. Why would you do that?

I have the same sentiment however.

 

[Kantrip]

Here for a sec.

Skimmed it because my mind wouldn't focus on it to actually read it properly, but I fully intend to do that.

I like Laundry, don't see the point in rereading his slot toDay.

Team is 3 of these 4 (assuming 3 man scumteam): YOLO + shenan + Nabe + Vinyl

I would lynch any of them toDay (except probably YOLO, he can wait until I can pin more on his slot than just a gut dislike, not liking his targets, and meta differences).

If I'm wrong and someone not in that pool is scum it's between Laundry/Gheb, but I'm fairly certain they're town and we don't have to worry about it.

Hanging out with bros, back later

 

[Kantrip]

Also looks like we have this game pretty much figured out and are ready to end the Day.

shenan should claim.

 

[Shenanigenius]

Like I feel like everyone just conveinently ignores that ****storm Ryu threw at the beginning of D2 and act like my concern was out of left-field, but it wasn't.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

laundry have you read nabes latest posts? or is the slot past the point of no return for you?

Now that I've read them, I can comment on it.

In that this is a new side of Nabe that I don't quite know what to make of it and unfortunately he's choosing just now to play this game finally and I can't get an idea of his longterm goals, which is where you often pin Nabe as any alignment. As I mentioned, he's being incredibly political, moreso than I remember. Usually I see Nabe in a more consistent manner with his later posts, where he's less...civil? I guess? and moreso using common vernacular and actually interacting with him. But his initial entry just seems so political that it comes off as Nabe being careful. I don't like that, because I'm not sure why he's treading so lightly here in the beginning. This is the single most important time because it gives us a first impression of a slot and he's choosing to be so political, to the point of even altering his choice in words (look at the difference between his first few posts as compared to #1166 or #1156, which are far more typical of Nabe).

I don't quite understand why he's giving me the benefit of the doubt. I nearly quoted his posted read on me and asked him if he was scum because I know he never townreads me, he's admitted to that in the past, and he's made me aware of that. I can understand why he'd give me that initially but we're three days in and I've gotten a lot of **** for my actions. I feel like that should've affected his read but he has me exactly at where I think he had me at the start: benefit of the doubt town-lean, despite perfectly summing up why you dislike my slot.

His Soup read also feels outdated because he's looking too much at why Soup got **** in the first place but not Soup's actions recently. What does he gain from baiting Kantrip like that, only to come to the conclusion that Kantrip isn't his primary target and at least bought himself a day just by seeing how he cracked? He actually said his Soup read got worse as he read more of him.

It's enough to make me say I want to see more. I'm not quite convinced of anything yet, I'm not fond of his entrance, and I don't think his read of me adds up, but he's Nabe and I don't think I can wholly figure that slot out without seeing some of his motivations play out first. It's enough to make me decidedly want Shen's head on a stake rather than watching these two force an interaction some more.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Like I feel like everyone just conveinently ignores that ****storm Ryu threw at the beginning of D2 and act like my concern was out of left-field, but it wasn't.

No one did, everyone just took it into account. If you flip town, I will gladly look at that slot some more.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Marshy, hmu. You still hate me and want me dead?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I'm going to play League now. I will be back once I'm done.

 

[Shenanigenius]

Well either way it's probably getting close to claim time, so everyone hang on to your butts (Sips face) because I know thread is going to lay an egg about it lol

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Votecount 3:2

Vinyl. [0] -
Shenanigenius [3] - Potassium, YOLOSWAG, WashedLaundry
Red_Antoine [0] -
soup [0] -
Potassium [1] - Gheb_01
Gheb_01 [0] -
WashedLaundry [0] -
YOLOSWAG [0] -
Nabe [1] - Shenanigenius

Not voting [4] - Vinyl, Red_Antoine, Nabe, soup

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is 11:59PM GMT, Thursday 16th January 2014

Previous Votecount - Next Votecount

 

[Shenanigenius]

Debating whether I should wait for Vinyl's replacement to get here before claiming or not.

~5 days might be enough time, but it might be cutting it close depending on how long it takes


@ #HBC | Kary : is there a replacement lined up or is it still an active search for one atm?

 

[Red_Antoine]

Also looks like we have this game pretty much figured out and are ready to end the Day.

We do?

Also I'll be out at the movies tomorrow, so slight V/LA pending on when I get back

 

[Shenanigenius]

Rake here. catching up silently then i'll have a post. dunno whats up but im on the case

 

[Shenanigenius]

Like I made it pretty clear in thread I was conflicted on my shenan read and had stuff leaning both ways but thought his interaction with you was inherently TvT right?

He wasn't a target for me.

Now with his lack of initiative he is. Look at his ****ing posts and tell me it actually looks like he's scumhunting. I can tell you see it because youo commented on it on this page. His play lately has been crap and you still wanna lynch me? You haven't even given me any good reasoning I haven't displayed for the **** that it is

Why is this a scum tell though ?

 

[Shenanigenius]

Okay. Let's say this one more time.

shen

-faking town meta of obtaining reads with jumpy votes, reaction tests, and questions. Tries to utilize these techniques early but doesn't show any change in stance from them
-static reads in general. a lack of showing intent to reassess anything. see soup read that never changed through multiple Days of content and new perspectives, and never even a mention of possibly reassessing
-extremely passive pushes. back to the soup read i was talking about. it was there but never pushed. in fact, they went for jtb during the jtb wagon even though soup was apparently a stronger read.
-speaking of jtb read, i saw nothing that made mention of their scumread, but they jumped on the wagon near the middle and sat on it to see it through to a lynch. if there is scum on the lynch, they are the prime example of what a scummy hop on a wagon looks like and would be my first choice

WAT.

Did you miss the part where i have very visibly changed my stance on numerous subjects except mostly for soup who i haven't even talked about in a while because his play doesn't look like total ass(although his arguement with you is terrible and i can't believe your letting him fly by doing this to you).

- my reads have been anything but static, the only static ones i've been holding closer too were ryu and soup and even those have undergone there moments of change and desparity.

- I do passive pressure all the time. Seriously Kantplay i don't know if your scum jumping the easy wagon or just the same assinin town kantrip that constantly calls my play scummy without looking at it at all. The former seems more likely as I've done passive pressure on and with you in a countless number of games and your sudden dislike of me is the rankest of opportunism.

- I had already mentioned a day or whatever go that i wouldn't be sad to see him gone, or has that slipped your mind too ? Not to mention him being on my list of null scummies i didnt want hanging around. But please, go for my throat more.

 

[Shenanigenius]

Oh yeah and with this wagon.

I believe it's usually a safe bet that there's scum on a mislynch, but I don't think all the scum are on this. It was an easy enough lynch to get, being policy in-part, that no one really opposed it and scum didn't have to all pile on for it to happen.

I'm pretty sure the scum is between shen and YOLO (could easily be both), and I'd look at Laundry if it was someone outside those two. Other than that the wagon was town

I agree on YOLO. honestly dont know why you guys let marshy live after he backed off you kantrip as not only was that mad scummy but his play up to this point has been nothing but donning his hbc hat and going for the easy lynches. This isn't the same as townmarshy does and I dislike how suddenly when im hot topic he's dropping his vote on you to come after me just like that.

And to add wifom to this, i don't like that he's alive one bit considering what lynches he's helped push through. (i'm not innocent in that regard either, and i'm not pretending to be, but honestly i don't know why you guys let marshy do things other than letting yourselves be satisfied with "it's just a marshy thing"

 

[YOLOSWAG]

so youre lookin at myself/soup/nabe it looks like shenani. what else?

 

[YOLOSWAG]

yeah go head and lay out whats good with the playerlist shenani. every time ive played with rake he comes in postgame and talks about how right he was and that his gut reads were bomb. so go head dude. dazzle me while youre alive

also is it a bad thing that part of me wants vinyl to get modkilled?

 

[YOLOSWAG]

More like why are people on the scum list that aren't in the lynch pool and vice versa is what I'm most interested in

tis a good point. i have half a mind to go nabe today

where are you at shenani? me/nabe/soup = scum to you. youre iffy on potato with a town alignment with a gun to your head. i need clearer stances and your slot is frustrating me cuz of how liquid you are. you come in and press a few points then bounce. when i look at most other players i at least have a good idea where theyre at but i need you to extrapolate on ****. i like how you keep noting soups bull****. i like what youre doing with nabe. weve got like 5 days to deadline (2 of those likely to go to **** due to the weekend) and you have a wide range youre aiming at. narrow it down

@ #HBC | Nabe

whys vinyl on yur ****list?

 

[Kantrip]

WAT.

Did you miss the part where i have very visibly changed my stance on numerous subjects except mostly for soup who i haven't even talked about in a while because his play doesn't look like total ***(although his arguement with you is terrible and i can't believe your letting him fly by doing this to you).

- my reads have been anything but static, the only static ones i've been holding closer too were ryu and soup and even those have undergone there moments of change and desparity.

- I do passive pressure all the time. Seriously Kantplay i don't know if your scum jumping the easy wagon or just the same assinin town kantrip that constantly calls my play scummy without looking at it at all. The former seems more likely as I've done passive pressure on and with you in a countless number of games and your sudden dislike of me is the rankest of opportunism.

- I had already mentioned a day or whatever go that i wouldn't be sad to see him gone, or has that slipped your mind too ? Not to mention him being on my list of null scummies i didnt want hanging around. But please, go for my throat more.

Okay tell me which reads have changed as a result of your questioning. Don't give me ones that changed for other reasoning, I want to know reads you developed from your questions/pressure or reads that changed from your questions/pressure.

And by passive pressure you miss my point. The problem is that you're poking at things like usual, sure, but it's not in active pursuit of a read. You ask some hollow questions and then drop it and I don't see any change in how you're approaching things as a result. But great, you're here now. Prove me wrong. Show me what I asked for above.

Don't jump back and forth between two options of if I'm scum and town and how I could be either. It's late into D3, you should have feels on my slot by now. Shouldn't need a gun to your head for you to have a solid read.

I must have missed it because I don't remember you saying anything about JTB until his wagon was already jumpstarted. Show me otherwise.

 

[Kantrip]

@ YOLOSWAG : The problem with going Nabe for me is that he's one of the slots where I'm weighing between multiple options, whereas I'm more set on shenan scum. I would rather go for more "confirmed" lynches first and do the narrowing down later, just so that if I'm totally off-base I'll know earlier rather than later. Is you wanting to switch because you're liking Rake's posts right now or what?

 

[Kantrip]

It's like other people have said, shenan is kind of a kingpin lynch where his flip can unlock a lot of things and make the game a lot clearer moving forward. Moreso than a lynch on a more background player.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

That said, this is about the most political I've heard you sound in a game thus far. What gives?

I don't know what you mean. I generally try to be communicate strongly in mafia, ever since Gala and Lactose in Lazy Neighbourhood, and it's only recently I've been loose again.

whys vinyl on yur ****list?

He's a useless pile, and I really hope he's scum for the sake of the game. I don't want my other reads to be wrong.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

totally chill with vinyl. modkill tbh, would suck if the day ended preemptively cause he was town but i dont really think he is

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@Gheb: What accusation are you talking about?

From all the words you post, one thing bothers me most
The genius is the enemy you say yet your votes were surely on his side!
Against the soupy and JTB, the hardest pushes we got to see
Your words say he's among the evil ones but your play says he's your bride!

Has this not yet caught your eyes? Does it take you by surprise?
That the evil genius and you have so often and decisively voted as one?
You both slayed the ********, the soupy you have bombarded
Always as a pair and now against the swagger you both together hold your gun!

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Forgot to post this.

V/LA til sunday

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Okay, so wait. First you say Shen is scum because he's simply hiding behind Ruy's play. Now you're saying that's what Potato's doing to Shen? Or...am I misunderstanding you? If not, that's hella meta, Gheb.

You have it all confused but you shall surely be excused
For it is not only you who struggles to heed my words the way they're meant to be
Hiding is not the potatos fault - it is his lustless assault:
He claims the genius is wicked yet too often on the same pushes they could agree

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Moving back to Adrian today, not sure when I'll be around. I intend to post later tonight, however.

 

[Kantrip]

From all the words you post, one thing bothers me most
The genius is the enemy you say yet your votes were surely on his side!
Against the soupy and JTB, the hardest pushes we got to see
Your words say he's among the evil ones but your play says he's your bride!

Has this not yet caught your eyes? Does it take you by surprise?
That the evil genius and you have so often and decisively voted as one?
You both slayed the ********, the soupy you have bombarded
Always as a pair and now against the swagger you both together hold your gun!

I believe the only time I was voting with him was the JTB wagon. I was on it first and shenan joined at a time that I took it to be bussing and thought he was jumping on a sinking ship.
I argued with soup but that doesn't mean I think soup is scum and shenan's scumread on soup is actually something that bothers me about them, this point doesn't make sense.
And I want shenan dead before YOLO because my YOLO read is admittedly weak and based largely in paranoia. Not my fault shenan went all "yeah I agree with kantrip we should kill YOLO"

 

[Kantrip]

There's nothing stopping shenan from calling his mates scum to distance. I would if I were in his position right now.

What are you trying to get at with that point, Gheb?

 

[Vinylic.]

HE'S GONE

HE'S ****ING GONE

BEST POST IN THIS THREAD

You're asking me to change my mind? Okay, guess I'd stick around here more often.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

NO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REPLACE BACK IN GET OUT OF HERE SHOO

 

[Vinylic.]

You're right, I'm ****. See you in day 4, guys.

 

[Kantrip]

Are you ***ing kidding me

 

[YOLOSWAG]

hardbodying the complete and utter **** outta vinyls bitchass fore this game ends. even if its during lylo and he flips town for the loss itdve been worth it

 

[Vinylic.]

Are you ***ing kidding me

Yes.

hardbodying the complete and utter **** outta vinyls *****ass fore this game ends. even if its during lylo and he flips town for the loss itdve been worth it

Totally fine with that, mate.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

vote yourself bro