Tranquility - Game Over

[#HBC | Laundry]

EBWOP: Because as much as I'm ******** about the way Soup's playing, I'm not at all oblivious to how you lunged at him, got him to jump, and then instead of exploring that further, called him town and pushed BSP instead.

 

[YOLOSWAG]

that said i expect more out of you than this

you championed the bsp lynch and now you're just gunning for inactives after a modkill. c'mon guys

nah. yu yurself admitted yur slots nasty and jtb still is as well. youre ignoring how ****ty a situation the beginning of this dayphase was with bsp castrating town of a proper d1 with 3 ****** who hardly did ****

that said ****s changed since then

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

the more likely inactive scummer is joey rather than jtb. jtb historically lurks and posts little, i don't remember joey being this inactive AND this curt while lurking so hard.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

nah. yu yurself admitted yur slots nasty and jtb still is as well. youre ignoring how ****ty a situation the beginning of this dayphase was with bsp castrating town of a proper d1 with 3 *****s who hardly did ****

that said ****s changed since then

I'll agree to that. Joey getting replaced should help.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Don't care, he is my strongest town read right now.

I want to like Ruy because he's doing things but I don't like this nor his initial treatment of Soup. BSP modkilling himself really did throw all of the monkey wrenchs in things.

I, for once, like Gheb.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

vote pawn

PAWN IS -1 DONT ****ING HAMMER HIM NOW

RUY STOP *****ING EVERY OTHER POST SHUT THE **** UP NO ONE GIVES A ****

Don't...hammer?

This is marshy?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Focusing on reads that come to me easily, stuff that is easy to get a distinct read on. Things that could go either way for me or be harder to read I'm holding off on

soup vs shenan early was an example, though I started getting doubt on shenan and saw it either way so I put that aside. soup town stayed
looked at vinyl early posts cuz if he's town it usually jumps out at me, saw some stuff to call him town on. not very strong but it was there
soup vs ruy interaction was a big one, got TvT and still see Town from both of you at present
JTB and pawn not SvS as an interaction, but both individually scummy

held off on reading gheb, yolo, and circus because those are both hard to read slots and hard to lynch slots. also likely to die early if town. didn't see anything that jumped out on me so didn't delve into that headache

So with players replacing in, where are your scumreads now? Don't cop out and give me one. I know you're taking the game slower and all but you should still have at least a few individuals you'd like to ****can right now.

 

[Kantrip]

I don't have any scumreads I'd make a case for, but I dislike JTB and I keep changing my mind on shenan.

I have one more slot I dislike but I'm looking for some more content before I get into it

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Good lord, I'm done.

As much as I think I need to see more on Soup vs Ruy, I'm tired of those two arguing. It's a gogdamn headache and is going nowhere.

unvote

As much as I hate Soup's play, I only ever see Soup wrong this much as town. Back in LM, he was making pushes but he was a lot more calculated in his approach and instead let marshy and my slot either beat each other up or push down bad routes instead of actually doing things in his own right. I can't remember the amount of times he kept saying "I agree with this direction but I don't see it." He seemed like he knew too much or had a much more clear plan. Here, he's just throwing himself at ****. He's trying too hard to make things stick, yes, but overall, I think that's because he lacks knowledge and so he's much more excitable. It seems like he's overthinking things instead of actually looking at them and I think the early pressure spooked him. His AtE is gross and as much as I'd like to pressure him more, I know that's all I'd get in response. He's town, but he's not really playing all that well this game.

I have my concerns about Ruy but I don't see enough to say Ruy's overall scum. Making bad decisions, yes, but I doubt he's scum here. He's prone to make bad decisions on a whole and I think he's going too hard to defend a slot he doesn't need to as scum simply for the sake of "old hydra mates". Again, citing my disclaimer that I will not read Ruy well, and that question to JDietz still stands overall. I want a second opinion on that from him first before I listen to others.

Potato, find your stuff on that one slot. I'm growing concerned the more I read you.

YOLOSWAG, of all the people in this game, your reads are the ones that are the most important to me. If you're town, they're the most trustworthy to me as well. I don't want a full readslist from you but I definitely would like to see where you would push now that Joey is getting replaced and Pawn has been replaced. Is JTB still on that list? Can you give me a couple of other slots? Am I still on there?

Shen is null and I honestly don't like Joey this game. JTB will be a crapshoot for me, as will Vinyl.

It's 5 AM. I wanted to go to bed at 2. ****.

I'll come back tomorrow and drop a vote and stuff. I wanna read back a little bit more. There's definitely scum around, it's definitely not in JTB/myself/Joey/Vinyl and I would be surprised if it was in more than 2 at most (and even that's stretching it, despite soup's claims otherwise). It's too convenient and honestly speaking, Pawn played like a dip****. JTB individually could still be scum.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

but yeh, bedtime. leave questions after the beep.

*beeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*

 

[YOLOSWAG]

unvote vote jtb

for now. i appreciate the hasty catchup. kevin if yu wanna pm me yur opinion on the replacement thatd be tight. btw im watchin a movie right now washed but dont worry responding to you is def on my...

laundry list

 

[Shenanigenius]

ebwop: fwiw i haven't seen it yet but i heard rumblings of a modkill and i see a guy got superbanned, you ****s wouldn't happen to know what that's all about, would you?

OOT talk but: whoah really?

 

[Shenanigenius]

Whoah if Ryu is going to dismiss his interactions with Soup as "trolling" I am not okay with that. I was all on board with you getting reads out of him when he acted like he had something to hide but this page 12 stuff is not cool. Calm yourself jesus

Same goes for having us as his town read because "rake". I know I like to use gut on my hydra partner too but that way out of line to throw a full on town read on us for gut only.

(I know, I'm far behind)

 

[Shenanigenius]

what the **** am I reading

 

[Shenanigenius]

The more Ruy posts, the less I like him.

JDietz, is this scum Ruy? You seem to be an expert at reading him.

His entrance was fine, but what I've been reading today is not.

He's only town here if he honestly believes what he's saying to Cream Team and means it on his Rake read, which I'm so far not convinced on. Otherwise he's faking his town meta hoping a hydra hides the spots and doing a poor job.

All of that subject to drastic change, especially once I get to talk to Rake, but I'm in no way okay with the slot anymore

 

[Shenanigenius]

Or should I say, the read I used to have

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Night has cleared, a new face has appeared
And oh so much talk while I regenerated my brain in soothing sleep
But now I return for new things to learn
From the things that were said that I need to read and keep

Unvote

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Huh this implies you are cautious of JTB riding my wind, you think now it is scummy lurky?

Gheb has worries about JTB and voted Pawn but I'm curious about his JTB look back.

A genious self-proclaimed, but as a fool he is famed
It is not my ingloriously ******** friend that I targeted with my complaint!
It's your "partner in law", whose dark shadow I saw
He's always where you are for you are only the canvas but he is the paint!

 

[~ Gheb ~]

[...] and he essentially caused our doc to suicide is pretty damn funny and ironic

BSP is why BSP was modkilled, Yolo pressuring him is not at fault.

cause and effect but w/e.

This should be noticed, for it's not true in the remotest
All this bickering and fighting seems to have made all you people blind
To things that truly matter, which is the evil to batter
And if you don't see the evil in there you're either foolish or too kind!

 

[Shenanigenius]

I don't give a **** if people think he said dumb stuff, i care if I see y death bear bro doing his thing.

Here I think, nah **** that, I know he is. If he is scum he will be the last person I lynch of the scum team.

Dude your wrong on Soup, I don't see as scum why soup wouldn't, but I'd rather talk to him about this than you tbh, no offense. Soup is someone I think is scum right now, though with me and koops he doesn't agree with me here, he doesn't "like" Soup but he isn't sure he is scum. I don't wanna default to him right now, more so when we both don't like him and want him to own up.

@Soup: dude look past my idgaf posts, k I did I don't care right now. I wanna talk to you mono a mono. You and me, tell me right now, outside of myself who is scum. You know I don't wanna make this a pissing match, just tell me so I can read you. I'm not trying to make this a pain int he *** for you. I'm honestly surprised only Kantrip caught on to why I was trolling you, serious wtf at people who thought I was 100% serious on d1 before I voted BSP. But here, Soup be real with me, what is it you want outside of me. I don't give a **** if you want me dead and think I am the scummiest person alive, I just wanna see who you are, help me out here if you are town. Give me a reason to doubt this.

please.

Ryu talk to me about this, what do you mean when you say trolling here. I thought when you came in you were pushing Soup because he jumped, right? And where is this attitude against Cream Team coming from, you can disagree with them without laying it on this thick, I don't get why you were so upset, and I don't like how you blew off Kantrip when he asked for reasoning:

Soup had a reaction worth pushing but I don't see why you wouldn't give the reasoning when asked if you want it to develop, you can have vague reasons but they have to be reasons. Why not say them when asked?

I really could care less.



Rake is not a player you can get me to define how I read him in words easily. He is one of he few people I let gut have a significant part of my reads. I've done this every game we are together and that will always be the case. I can never truly in words describe it.

You can go at me about this, but it's going to get you nowhere.

This is how I read Rake.

This is Dietz, tell me why you're reading us the way you are. If anyone is going to understand what you mean on Rake gut reads it's going to be me, but you have to at least try to explain it. Hand waving this **** is not going to fly.


Unvote

Unsure which direction we need to go from here, but it probably isn't Soup for at least toDay. Would be willing to go to JTB when everything is said and done

 

[Shenanigenius]

Probably not going to agree with a Laundry lynch based on his re-entry, but if it comes to that I'd consider it because of how bad Pawn was before he came in.

 

[Shenanigenius]

Vote: JTB

(he was a lot lower on the votecount than I thought)


Rake get in the hydra QT when you read this, we have a lot of discussing to do

 

[Shenanigenius]

A genious self-proclaimed, but as a fool he is famed
It is not my ingloriously ******** friend that I targeted with my complaint!
It's your "partner in law", whose dark shadow I saw
He's always where you are for you are only the canvas but he is the paint!

Gheb can you re-word this?

(I love the poetry and all but I lost who you were all referring to in lines 1-3 because I'm not in teh know)

This should be noticed, for it's not true in the remotest
All this bickering and fighting seems to have made all you people blind
To things that truly matter, which is the evil to batter
And if you don't see the evil in there you're either foolish or too kind!

I get where you're coming from here but I don't think incriminating Yolo was his intent: he's just legit mad at the slot for still being so brash after someone ragequit and wants them to stop it.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@Cream Team

The dragon is used a pawn, for the evil to feed on
He is being pushed in the spotlight but look at whom is pulling the strings!
The red one is naive, the soupy fed up with grief
But the wanna-be genius manipulates and nudges from the save side of things!

Mysterious remains the soup, is he honest or is it a coup?
He sure makes it look like it's the former but it could just as easily be the latter
A friend of extremes way, from his path he never sways
As much as he could devour all evil souls, he could cause the good ones to shatter!

Vote shenanigenius

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb can you re-word this?

The genius is you, [even through that's not true!]
And you are the "partner in law" as you merely appear to be on his side
Red dragon faces the heat - you hide behind his feet
You use him to fulfill your purpose while you stay safely in your hide!

 

[Shenanigenius]

Oh

10 ohs


I think you're very mistaken if you think we've done any of this to Ryu(?) (I can only assume this is who you mean by red dragon). He did his own things all by himself, I'm just here to check if he means it


(It's really hard to talk about it or defend myself against accusations I don't fully understand)

 

[Shenanigenius]

Like Rake can think whatever he wants about Ryu, but I'm concerned that he just slapped down a gut read and pretended that was going to be okay. The very least I can do here is ask him to come talk to me

 

[Red_Antoine]

Why am I awake?

 

[Red_Antoine]

ebwop: fwiw i haven't seen it yet but i heard rumblings of a modkill and i see a guy got superbanned, you ****s wouldn't happen to know what that's all about, would you?

Dunno about the superbanned part but BSP got himself modkilled cause he wanted to prove it to Marshy or something.

 

[Red_Antoine]

man of course i'd walk into a game at l-2 again, i thought i'd learned my lesson from previous times i've done this crap

i'm reading through right now

But don't you wanna remember that game where Chibo cleared people off his color trick when you replaced in?

 

[Red_Antoine]

who is the other head of this hydra

until i get an answer i'm just going to remain skeptical of ruy's abuse of power to have an alt

It's Koops, I'm making most of the posts here though.

What do you mean abuse my power of an alt here though?

 

[Red_Antoine]

what the actual **** is ruy doing

is this a gambit, because that bait reeks

Mostly baiting Soup to get him to react to me.

 

[Red_Antoine]

that said i expect more out of you than this

you championed the bsp lynch and now you're just gunning for inactives after a modkill. c'mon guys

I don't think gunning inactivers here is a bad thing, there is 3/4 of them including your-slot til you replaced in, it was going to be a a problem that needed to be addressed.

 

[Red_Antoine]

the more likely inactive scummer is joey rather than jtb. jtb historically lurks and posts little, i don't remember joey being this inactive AND this curt while lurking so hard.

This is why I wanted him to talk to me more, though it looks more like it's due to band and other irl things than actual lurking, which really doesn't surprise me for Joey but at the same time I wanted to see him post a bit more of himself.

JTB on the other hand, he may lurk in mafia, but what he did when he did post is somewhat of a problem.

 

[YOLOSWAG]

@ #HBC | Laundry this is marshy without having spoken to kev yet

me and kevin both want jtb the most. we also dislike shenani and are feelin ghebs push there. i also didnt care much for joey the few times he could get in here. i know that the majority of our lynchpool being inactive isnt the most impressive or exciting thing but it wouldnt be the first time swf has its scumteam all on the low. i can at least agree to see what joeys replacement offers and i really think your "theres scum but it aint between me/vinyl/joey/jtb" smacks a bit of overthinking. i agree the whole team aint there but its a decent look tho im not as interested in yu and vinyl as the other two right now

i felt like jtb and vinyl goin at each other the way they did early on held something of value. i cant put it into words thatre too elegant but something about that exchange was weird. and check out jtb according to yur reads. hes gone onto soup and is now on you. so that would be 2 innocents hes hopped onto without much regard

heres an exercise for you laundry. do you have any particular hypothesis on how scum would approach that d1 soup wagon? check out that end of d1 votecount and lemme know if the placements of those votes are of interest to you at all

 

[YOLOSWAG]

as for potato...meh. i can see where you and gheb were coming from when yall went at him but i dunno. he did this off the cuff stream of consciousness style in this other game where i was scum and he was town. it caught him a lot of flak but this ****s similar enough that hes not a priority for me at this very moment. we have him as straight null. yu know that one scumbag on the team you dont really realize til later in the game? itd prolly be him. that said we appreciate your pressuring of him

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Votecount 2:4

Vinyl. [0] -
Shenanigenius [1] - Gheb_01
Red_Antoine [1] - Kary
soup [0] -
JTB [3] - Potassium, YOLOSWAG, Shenanigenius
Potassium [0] -
Gheb_01 [0] -
WashedLaundry [3] - Cream Team, soup, JTB
YOLOSWAG [0] -
Cream Team [0] -
-Masquerain- [0] -

Not voting [4] - Vinyl, -Masquerain-, WashedLaundry, Red_Antoine

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline is 11:59PM GMT, Saturday, 11th January 2014

Previous Votecount - Next Votecount

 

[YOLOSWAG]

Red_Antoine [1] - Kary

wat

@ #HBC | Kary

is this votecount accurate?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

wat

@ #HBC | Kary

is this votecount accurate?

Yes, it should be. Red_Antoine received a modvote for editing their post #373

Apologies for not making this clearer.

Next time someone edits a post they will get two modvotes.

 

[Red_Antoine]

(Sorry Ryu, deleted your quoted posts by logging in here)

Yes, it should be. Red_Antoine received a modvote for editing their post #373

Apologies for not making this clearer.

Next time someone edits a post they will get two modvotes.

Did you not understand the part of I was fixing a quote?