Social The WFTGD: How About Some Deep Breathing?

[AvariceX]

I find the Wario matchup pretty hard, we don't have a very good answer on the ground for Chomp other than a perfectly spaced dash attack, SH Dair, or pivot ftilt; jumping over him is reactable because of our floatiness.

Can someone explain to me how exactly deep breathing works?

I don't think any of us even know entirely yet. What we know for sure:
-It makes you do more damage (I think by 10%)
-It increases the knockback of your attacks (also by 10% I think)
-It makes you heavier (harder to KO) (not sure by how much but I wouldn't be surprised by the 10% trend, seems heavier though)
-The time it takes to charge Deep Breathing is dependent on how much of the Deep Breathing buff you have remaining (or how long it has been since your last DB). Deep Breathing state (and timer) gets cleared when you are KO'ed.
-It heals you a tiny amount (1% or 2% I don't remember which one is DB and which is SS) if successful

 

[mYzeALot]

So for the damage, would my 1% attack do 11%? Or my 10% attack would do 11%? Also, the buff lasts until the end of your stock?

 

[shapular]

Wario is =(

Oh look, a name searcher. Custom Bite is OP though >.>

 

[⑨ball]

The buff lasts a couple of seconds, not sure on the exact time, but you can tell by the glow she has.
I'm not sure about the damage part, but I'm pretty sure the knockback part is actually 20% so it might be 20s all around.

As for Wario, I'm loading the video now, but there are two things everyone should know about this matchup.

The first being that he is going to be really hard to edgeguard if you go that route because vectoring has a weird glitch that can give him an UpB-less recovery.

The second is that Wario still suffers from grab release shenanigans. We get free aerials for sure and we might also get Usmash for an easy kill confirm. I'll let everyone know when I check in a minute.

 

[AvariceX]

I'm pretty sure we get a free (slightly charged even) upsmash on Wario grab release. And yeah I think the DB buff is 20% actually not 10% (can't confirm at the moment).

 

[BJN39]

I find the Wario matchup pretty hard, we don't have a very good answer on the ground for Chomp other than a perfectly spaced dash attack, SH Dair, or pivot ftilt; jumping over him is reactable because of our floatiness.



I don't think any of us even know entirely yet. What we know for sure:
-It makes you do more damage (I think by 10%)
-It increases the knockback of your attacks (also by 10% I think)
-It makes you heavier (harder to KO) (not sure by how much but I wouldn't be surprised by the 10% trend, seems heavier though)
-The time it takes to charge Deep Breathing is dependent on how much of the Deep Breathing buff you have remaining (or how long it has been since your last failed DB). Deep Breathing state (and timer) gets cleared when you are KO'ed.
-It heals you a tiny amount (1% or 2% I don't remember which one is DB and which is SS) if successful

Wait, it buffs her weight too? How'd you discover this? I'd never heard this before your post. :o

 

[⑨ball]

Just checked and I think all we get is a fair. I got nair, uair and bair to land a couple times but I think he was trying to challenge it.

It's free damage but honestly it might be better to just uthrow. If nothing else he should have a tough time fighting her too seeing as any time she crouches, he'll have to commit instead of spacing aerial pokes.

 

[NAKAT]

Yea I suck at finding **** I care about so I always name search. No shame =)

 

[shapular]

Yea I suck at finding **** I care about so I always name search. No shame =)

I just hope some day I'll be good enough to be able to name search. :V

 

[Lore]

I just hope some day I'll be good enough to be able to name search. :V

You probably won't. <3


So! Smash 4 is really fun. Give me a few weeks, guys, and I'll be much more of an active mod in here. I won't be strict or anything (hell, look at the Pool Room for an example), but I'll be more active with posting.

 

[Big-Cat]

Lolwat why black? XD

your skype avatar

 

[Teran]

your skype avatar

 

[GalaxyWaffles]

Some nice WFT gameplay. It's also quite funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtARr86MEVU

 

[crisspy727]

Hello Smashboards,
This is my first time posting here
I wanna know what you guy's think about this video. I really think I've got the hang of her but I wanna know if i could use some improvements.
watch?v=sIfac-WwHhc

 

[Maraphy]

This is my masterpiece.

L̴̫̳̪E͙̩͎͖̕T'S͓ ̹͔͙S͍͉̭T̜̺͔RE͇̺̖̩̳͍͍T̗̲̟̺C̖̲͘H ͓̲͕̠Ò̱̪͉̩͉U̙͘R̨͇͉̯ ̹̱̮Ļ̲̱̲͙͉̳̺È͉̠G͉̬̲̯̯̬̭S̰͖̪̭͇̟̞͝

 

[ぱみゅ]

Stretching your legs might actually be more beneficial than I thought it was.
http://gfycat.com/RealisticDrearyBlackandtancoonhound

 

[shapular]

Stretching your legs might actually be more beneficial than I thought it was.
http://gfycat.com/RealisticDrearyBlackandtancoonhound

WII FIT TRAINER IS BROKEN. FAITH IS RESTORED.

 

[Circa]

I had all the plans in the world to main Lucina, but oh my god I love Wii Fit Trainer. I've never felt so connected to a character.

Name: Circa
Location: Three Rivers, MI
Talents: I can touch my toes.
Likes: Football, video games, exploring bad decisions.
Dislikes: Sleeping more than six hours.
Goals: I want to be a Renaissance Man.
Other facts: I am slowly becoming a healthy human being.

This social thread also has a lot less RobinxLucina shipping, That's a very nice change of pace. Thank you all for being cool.

 

[shapular]

I had all the plans in the world to main Lucina, but oh my god I love Wii Fit Trainer. I've never felt so connected to a character.
Name: Circa
Location: Three Rivers, MI
Talents: I can touch my toes.
Likes: Football, video games, exploring bad decisions.
Dislikes: Sleeping more than six hours.
Goals: I want to be a Renaissance Man.
Other facts: I am slowly becoming a healthy human being.

This social thread also has a lot less RobinxLucina shipping, That's a very nice change of pace. Thank you all for being cool.

Do my eyes deceive me? Is that a Non Non Biyori avatar?

 

[Circa]

Do my eyes deceive me? Is that a Non Non Biyori avatar?

Your eyes do not. Natsumi is adorable. :3

 

[shapular]

Your eyes do not. Natsumi is adorable. :3

I loooooooooooooove that show.

Komari is the best though

 

[shapular]

Hello Smashboards,
This is my first time posting here
I wanna know what you guy's think about this video. I really think I've got the hang of her but I wanna know if i could use some improvements.
watch?v=sIfac-WwHhc

Nice job at the Vegas weekly, man. You've made WFT mains everywhere proud. Keep it up.

 

[crisspy727]

Thanks man i was really trying my best i just feel like i have a hard time killing.

 

[Teran]

Thanks man i was really trying my best i just feel like i have a hard time killing.

Gonna have to get used to that last part :/

 

[crisspy727]

Gonna have to get used to that last part :/

Well its more of not having a C-stick i usually pull off a tilt instead of a smash.

 

[Teran]

Well its more of not having a C-stick i usually pull off a tilt instead of a smash.

Haha, I started out with 64 so I'm used to it.

 

[Mettie7]

This is my masterpiece.

L̴̫̳̪E͙̩͎͖̕T'S͓ ̹͔͙S͍͉̭T̜̺͔RE͇̺̖̩̳͍͍T̗̲̟̺C̖̲͘H ͓̲͕̠Ò̱̪͉̩͉U̙͘R̨͇͉̯ ̹̱̮Ļ̲̱̲͙͉̳̺È͉̠G͉̬̲̯̯̬̭S̰͖̪̭͇̟̞͝

Mar, I s2g

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Deep Breathing multiplies your damage output by about 1.2 and heals 2%. Idk if theres a KB multiplier too, I haven't tested for that. It also increases your weight and I'm tryna figure out what it increases to

Also ****in smashboards it NEVER notifies me for like 9/10 of my watched threads but will always tells me when somebody makes a ****ty "possible new AT?" thread in 3DS competitive

edit: also-

Name: Indigo Jeans, Starturds
Location: El Paso
Talents: idk science i guess
Likes: Biology, sperging over smash
Dislikes: calculus man **** calculus
Goals: figure out how to consistently land smashes with wft ;_;7
Other facts: Male WFT is objectively wrong

 

[Brickbuild101]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQkgTV-6jE8

If this didn't make you main WFT, I don't know what will.

 

[crisspy727]

I'm curious how long is the duration of DB?

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Deep Breathing's effects last about 5 seconds iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQkgTV-6jE8

If this didn't make you main WFT, I don't know what will.

That's not female wft

 

[crisspy727]

Deep Breathing's effects last about 5 seconds iirc



That's not female wft

The effect doesn't last longer after the first time doing it?

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Nope, you just get a startup penalty for using it or failing to execute it properly. It's something like y = 25 + 1.5x, where y is the amount of frames it takes for the circles to align, 25 is the minimum amount of frames for the circles to align, and x is the amount of times you've failed or successfully executed DB during that stock. This is just guessing though, I'm not entirely certain how close 25 is to the actual amount of frames DB starts off with, or if it really does take 1.5 times longer. Your execution penalty counter gets reset when you lose a stock. Also, it seems the multiplier in the startup equation is drastically higher if you start another DB session while you're already under the effects of DB.

This is for STARTUP though. I'm pretty sure the duration of effects is always about 600F/5S. Shield/airdodge cancelling DB doesn't count towards your execution penalty.

 

[crisspy727]

Nope, you just get a startup penalty for using it or failing to execute it properly. It's something like y = 25 + 1.5x, where y is the amount of frames it takes for the circles to align, 25 is the minimum amount of frames for the circles to align, and x is the amount of times you've failed or successfully executed DB during that stock. This is just guessing though, I'm not entirely certain how close 25 is to the actual amount of frames DB starts off with, or if it really does take 1.5 times longer. Your execution penalty counter gets reset when you lose a stock. Also, it seems the multiplier in the startup equation is drastically higher if you start another DB session while you're already under the effects of DB.

This is for STARTUP though. I'm pretty sure the duration of effects is always about 600F/5S. Shield/airdodge cancelling DB doesn't count towards your execution penalty.

Thanks a lot I was here hoping for extended time with DB but it's good to know that I have 5 seconds to work with it.

 

[Teran]

5 measly seconds in this campfest of a game

 

[crisspy727]

5 measly seconds in this campfest of a game

Sadly there is no safe way to get the full 5 seconds it's more like 3 since we have to push them away to do it. xD

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Basically my sentiments. Because of that I'll try and only ever go for DB when I know I'm gonna KO with SS or if I've got nothing left to lose. Cause if you miss that there's like no chance you're gonna get another shot at KOing with something else (SHBair maybe? lmao) and then you're just left without DB cause of the penalty

 

[Teran]

We're dedicated to fitness aren't we?

I think a pic of @Meno and I covered in oil should be the banner for the OP

 

[⑨ball]

Deep breathing actually lasts about 10 seconds.
There is additional knockback added.
Damage multiplier.
Ground speed increased.
Weight increased.
You are "penalized" for air dodge canceling the first activation. It changes it to "secondary" activation whether you fail, succeed or cancel.
The first activation takes about 1.5/2 second(s).
Following activations, or "secondary", without losing a stock take about 5 seconds to activate. Not sure if it returns to the original speed after some time, I only tested up to waiting 30 seconds, but this might have been affected by me AD canceling.
Heals 2% each time.

I feel like I'm missing something but I'm in a rush. Someone correct me if I left something out.

 

[Brickbuild101]

WFT has the best textures in the Wii U version. I love how much it stands out.