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I always wonder how come no one has made a mugen style smash bros game, Like make your own characters,stages,etc.
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It takes a lot of time (somewhere near 1-2 weeks) to make single good character. There was Kirby with Brawl gameplay (nearly 1:1), but stage couldn`t zoom in/out and its impossible to use him correctly in newest MUGEN version and just any MUGEN after version 1.0. There is a project called Nintendo VS Capcom and im making Ridley for it, but its more like MvC game than SSB game.I always wonder how come no one has made a mugen style smash bros game, Like make your own characters,stages,etc.
Your Ridley pretty good so far. I love how he punches the screen after that Hyper. I can only imagine the amount of odd fights you can make such as Ridley vs Homer Simpson, or Ridley vs Ronald McDonald. The possibilities are endless!It takes a lot of time (somewhere near 1-2 weeks) to make single good character. There was Kirby with Brawl gameplay (nearly 1:1), but stage couldn`t zoom in/out and its impossible to use him correctly in newest MUGEN version and just any MUGEN after version 1.0. There is a project called Nintendo VS Capcom and im making Ridley for it, but its more like MvC game than SSB game.
The style of Mugen is pretty different from Smash. The closest you can get is by having Nintendo character transition into the Capcom-like style of Mugen. I that it's been done with quite a few of the Nintendo characters as is.I always wonder how come no one has made a mugen style smash bros game, Like make your own characters,stages,etc.
Thanks...i guess...And he impales opponent`s head, killing him/her/it. Its just shown from his/her/its perspective.Your Ridley pretty good so far. I love how he punches the screen after that Hyper. I can only imagine the amount of odd fights you can make such as Ridley vs Homer Simpson, or Ridley vs Ronald McDonald. The possibilities are endless!
Actually, it IS possible to make nearly 1:1 SSB gameplay with enough coding skills (somewhere near my own). Nearly everything is possible with MUGEN. Even Super Mario Bros. level 1-1 bonus level.The style of Mugen is pretty different from Smash. The closest you can get is by having Nintendo character transition into the Capcom-like style of Mugen. I that it's been done with quite a few of the Nintendo characters as is.
Though I would recommend looking up Card Saga Wars. It's a little closer to the Smash style.
That so? Guess I was mistaken then. It would be cool to see a Smash style Mugen game. Though I would need to be 1000 times better at sprites art, if I were to help.Thanks...i guess...And he impales opponent`s head, killing him/her/it. Its just shown from his/her/its perspective.
Actually, it IS possible to make nearly 1:1 SSB gameplay with enough coding skills (somewhere near my own). Nearly everything is possible with MUGEN. Even Super Mario Bros. level 1-1 bonus level.
Sprites art isn`t necessary since i am, for example, using characters` models, animated and posed, then import screenshot of each frame into image with set image palette and its done! Not that hard, just can be frustratingly long to finish.That so? Guess I was mistaken then. It would be cool to see a Smash style Mugen game. Though I would need to be 1000 times better at sprites art, if I were to help.
BE PREPARE FOR THE ETERNITY BATTLEJust to give you an idea of how possible a SSB style game is in MUGEN.
I saw it, but I really want to see human Ridley fighting the giant orange space dragon, is that gonna be drawn?Wow I'm totally not quoting my own stuff to get more people to see it, it's totally lame why would i do that
Maybe i should make a video similar to this one, but with Ridley im currently working on. Maybe resized a bit, maybe not.
Just to give you an idea of how possible a SSB style game is in MUGEN.
Faster since he can move really fast during his Other M battle, but with endlag and startlag/startup on nearly every attack since this is what he also had in that battle.So back to Ridley, should he be faster than Bowser? Ridley isn't as bulky Bowser is, so I would imagine he'd be faster. Or would he be slower on the ground to put an emphasis on aerial combat? I'm not sure which would fit better.
Well, there's also the Spirit Tracks stage to lead us to believe Toon Link was disconfirmed...
A Smash Bros. themed boxing ring stage to dull Little Mac's chances...
That Phosphora trophy stunt he pulled...
Using Pseudo-Palutena in the "Who's that trophy?" section...
Oh yeah, and setting up Greninja to resemble a Mewtwo reveal.
And are you seriously trying to say Saks is not a total tease? Anyone who says Sakurai is a serious developer who has never, EVER teased a character only to show them later is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Bowser's not actually that slow, I think that Ridley would be slower than him, but maybe not in the air.So back to Ridley, should he be faster than Bowser? Ridley isn't as bulky Bowser is, so I would imagine he'd be faster. Or would he be slower on the ground to put an emphasis on aerial combat? I'm not sure which would fit better.
True story, bro...?
It's going to be now!I saw it, but I really want to see human Ridley fighting the giant orange space dragon, is that gonna be drawn?
I heard that he doesn`t hates him and thinks he is too big, but instead thinks that resizing him is a horrible idea. But thousands of idiots that just say something absurd as an argument will have a priceless reaction for us.I don't really support Ridley (As I'm not really a Metroid fan but I have played Metroid Fusion and Super Metroid), But I would be okay if he made it Not only is he the perfect rep for the Metroid series It will also shut people up about the "Too Big" argument and also just the reaction of people who think Ridley is a boss due to the Direct. I bet Shokio's reaction would be the best.
Alright this is the biggest thing I have ever posted so I really hope I did well
first off I like to thank lackadaisyalex for this it does most of the argument parts for me
but I will be doing some of the arguments anyway
now then
it all started with this
after the yellow devil ridley gets shown
but this does not deconfirm ridley as play I will show you why and then the after this the best part
toon link survived despite his cameo appearance
well first off most of us thought toon link was kicked because of this happening
he was a stage cameo instead of playable we all thought because of that he was deconfirmed.
but.......
on 9/26 2013
http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/toon_link.html
Wait wait wait wait but that's impossible he was a cameo before how did he become playable. Well turns out sakurai had something prepared
Alfonzo would be the conductor whenever toon link was in battle
so what does this have to do with ridley well its this
well sakurai called this stage the pyrosphere
but theres something that's plausible its this
pyrosphere is NOT the correct name for where you fight ridley
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Geothermal_Power_Plant
that's the correct name
pyrosphere is the name of the fire world in other m not the room so this could be a scrolling room like some of the stages already confirmed and like some of the past ones like this one
to hint this look at the quote of the hole zoom in
hmmm now that's suspicious
now where im going is this
the goyagma
and the vorash
(this user of the videos is not me)
could be boss hazard and ridley as well if this is a scrolling stage
in other words the goyagma and vorash will be boss's but when ridley is being played as ridley could be simply turned off
which brings the next thing
Both boss hazard and playable
we know this is ridley
and could be a hazard but it does not roll out playable if he was boss and heres why
remember this fight on Kirby air ride city trial
yea hes a boss in city trial
but look.....
start at 2:19ish
that's playable dedede also on city trial
so dedede is both playable and a boss on city trial
so going back the the stage thing that's how I think ridley simply disable will work when hes in the arena if a scrolling stage
ok next up is
Sakurai can have a change of heart
now whats this have to do with him well its this
ok what he saying is ridley is impossible
but change of heart is very likely
which means he thought villager was not suitable for battle
he had a change of heart obviously
http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/villager.html
so he made villager playable
now for exhibit B
he claimed that Namco would not get any special treatment what so ever
if he said that why did this get added to smash
and these guys from galaga (which is made by Namco)
the S flag is a proud symbol of Namco and how charizard there is holding it its probably going to be a assist trophy based item which is nothing but retro Namco character that the S flag was in probably
and also not to mention this helps pac-man and that's a Namco character and sakurai probably knows that if he lets pac-man in as playable his game is going to make history
(worlds first game with Mario sonic megaman pac-man all playable in 1 game)
(I suppose another one for first time ever ridley is playable in something thast not fan based game if confirmed playable)
and now for the big apple pie
HES WAY TOO BIG YOU FOOLS
this is by far the worst agreement in the history of these forms
EVERYBODY HAS GOING HUGE AND SHRUKEN AND PLAYABLES HAVE BEN SMALLER THAN THEY HAVE BEN NOT PLAYABLE
lets start with bowser
oh he was this once
WROOOONG
they did it twice (unless the left is fanbased ofcoarse)
and that's not the only time
so he resizes willy nilly in stuff (without any magical stuff he grabs)
but when playable
hes smaller
and this is with a bunch of other characters with strinkage or growth
king k rool
boss
hes even bigger in this
but playable
WTF a toad is half his height
petey pirhana
but playable
luigi is almost as tall as him
and heres my favorite
queen bee
boss
but playable
FROM TITAN SIZE TO A TOAD 3/4 HER SIZE WHAT?!?!?!?!
in other words characters get shrunken when playable
and afcoarse this kills it
http://nintendoeverything.com/super-smash-bros-for-3ds-screenshot-21914/
the quote of this is
This dog is huge… Wait, no, the playable characters are small. The Smash Bros. series doesn’t always stay true to scale
ok that kills the argument CYA
Part 2 is coming up in a few minutes which is shadow analyze
this is part 1
Man, you are the most comprehensive and dedicated Ridley poster I've ever seen. It's straight up inspiring.All of the analysis in the world.
I can imagine when Ridley gets confirmed people who thought he was too big will pretend that they knew he was going to be playable and form a bandwagon on this thread.I heard that he doesn`t hates him and thinks he is too big, but instead thinks that resizing him is a horrible idea. But thousands of idiots that just say something absurd as an argument will have a priceless reaction for us.
Don`t forget Ganondorf, Lucario, Pikachu, Olimar, Samus (more-or-less), Charizard and maybe someone else.
Pretty much everyone was resized in order to make the sizes more uniform (but when you're talking sizes of chaarcters that don't exist, it hardly matters. You can design them however you want). It's more noticeable for the bigger characters, obviously.Don`t forget Ganondorf, Lucario, Pikachu, Olimar, Samus (more-or-less), Charizard and maybe someone else.
1. We saw a rock formation in Greninja`s reveal trailer and it looked like NES Ridley for some odd reasons.Wow, I haven't been here for awhile. Anything new for good ole Ridley?
Well, i guess he should be like a weaker (in terms of endurance and weigh) and faster version of Ridley with longer range, but destructible projectiles other than his kinetic breath weapon`s beam.Don't be so harsh, I found his post relatively easy to follow.
Haters judging Ridley supporters solely based on a single post that MIGHT not be well structured shouldn't be taken seriously.
Topic change if it hasn't been brought up before:
I saw someone on Reddit having this idea. How would a playable Meta-Ridley instead of regular Ridley be? He could sure have even more potential because of an upgraded arsenal of weapons. (i.e. rockets, advanced plasma weapons)
I wouldn't mind that, however I would personally prefer Meta-Ridley to be either a alternate costume or Final Smash. I would like to a Meta-Ridley moveset though. It'll be interesting.Don't be so harsh, I found his post relatively easy to follow.
Haters judging Ridley supporters solely based on a single post that MIGHT not be well structured shouldn't be taken seriously.
Topic change if it hasn't been brought up before:
I saw someone on Reddit having this idea. How would a playable Meta-Ridley instead of regular Ridley be? He could sure have even more potential because of an upgraded arsenal of weapons. (i.e. rockets, advanced plasma weapons)
I see. I need to come here more often. I tend to disappear on a regular basis.1. We saw a rock formation in Greninja`s reveal trailer and it looked like NES Ridley for some odd reasons.
2. We have over analyzed his shadow.
3. Trolls.
4. I lost to Sakurai in poker, but he said that Ridley IS playable.
Not too sure. I do like Meta Ridley though, but I don't prefer one form over the others too much. I guess Meta-Ridley would have a little bit more to offer. He does have missiles and kinectic beams. So that's something to say the least.Don't be so harsh, I found his post relatively easy to follow.
Haters judging Ridley supporters solely based on a single post that MIGHT not be well structured shouldn't be taken seriously.
Topic change if it hasn't been brought up before:
I saw someone on Reddit having this idea. How would a playable Meta-Ridley instead of regular Ridley be? He could sure have even more potential because of an upgraded arsenal of weapons. (i.e. rockets, advanced plasma weapons)
If you've been gone since before the Direct, here's about what happened 7 minutes in.Wow, I haven't been here for awhile. Anything new for good ole Ridley?
You might be missing a broken window or two. But otherwise, yeah this sums things up well.If you've been gone since before the Direct, here's about what happened 7 minutes in.
Alright this is the biggest thing I have ever posted so I really hope I did well
first off I like to thank lackadaisyalex for this it does most of the argument parts for me
but I will be doing some of the arguments anyway
now then
it all started with this
after the yellow devil ridley gets shown
but this does not deconfirm ridley as play I will show you why and then the after this the best part
toon link survived despite his cameo appearance
well first off most of us thought toon link was kicked because of this happening
he was a stage cameo instead of playable we all thought because of that he was deconfirmed.
but.......
on 9/26 2013
http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/toon_link.html
Wait wait wait wait but that's impossible he was a cameo before how did he become playable. Well turns out sakurai had something prepared
Alfonzo would be the conductor whenever toon link was in battle
so what does this have to do with ridley well its this
well sakurai called this stage the pyrosphere
but theres something that's plausible its this
pyrosphere is NOT the correct name for where you fight ridley
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Geothermal_Power_Plant
that's the correct name
pyrosphere is the name of the fire world in other m not the room so this could be a scrolling room like some of the stages already confirmed and like some of the past ones like this one
to hint this look at the quote of the hole zoom in
hmmm now that's suspicious
now where im going is this
the goyagma
and the vorash
(this user of the videos is not me)
could be boss hazard and ridley as well if this is a scrolling stage
in other words the goyagma and vorash will be boss's but when ridley is being played as ridley could be simply turned off
which brings the next thing
Both boss hazard and playable
we know this is ridley
and could be a hazard but it does not roll out playable if he was boss and heres why
remember this fight on Kirby air ride city trial
yea hes a boss in city trial
but look.....
start at 2:19ish
that's playable dedede also on city trial
so dedede is both playable and a boss on city trial
so going back the the stage thing that's how I think ridley simply disable will work when hes in the arena if a scrolling stage
ok next up is
Sakurai can have a change of heart
now whats this have to do with him well its this
ok what he saying is ridley is impossible
but change of heart is very likely
which means he thought villager was not suitable for battle
he had a change of heart obviously
http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/villager.html
so he made villager playable
now for exhibit B
he claimed that Namco would not get any special treatment what so ever
if he said that why did this get added to smash
and these guys from galaga (which is made by Namco)
the S flag is a proud symbol of Namco and how charizard there is holding it its probably going to be a assist trophy based item which is nothing but retro Namco character that the S flag was in probably
and also not to mention this helps pac-man and that's a Namco character and sakurai probably knows that if he lets pac-man in as playable his game is going to make history
(worlds first game with Mario sonic megaman pac-man all playable in 1 game)
(I suppose another one for first time ever ridley is playable in something thast not fan based game if confirmed playable)
and now for the big apple pie
HES WAY TOO BIG YOU FOOLS
this is by far the worst agreement in the history of these forms
EVERYBODY HAS GOING HUGE AND SHRUKEN AND PLAYABLES HAVE BEN SMALLER THAN THEY HAVE BEN NOT PLAYABLE
lets start with bowser
oh he was this once
WROOOONG
they did it twice (unless the left is fanbased ofcoarse)
and that's not the only time
so he resizes willy nilly in stuff (without any magical stuff he grabs)
but when playable
hes smaller
and this is with a bunch of other characters with strinkage or growth
king k rool
boss
hes even bigger in this
but playable
WTF a toad is half his height
petey pirhana
but playable
luigi is almost as tall as him
and heres my favorite
queen bee
boss
but playable
FROM TITAN SIZE TO A TOAD 3/4 HER SIZE WHAT?!?!?!?!
in other words characters get shrunken when playable
and afcoarse this kills it
http://nintendoeverything.com/super-smash-bros-for-3ds-screenshot-21914/
the quote of this is
This dog is huge… Wait, no, the playable characters are small. The Smash Bros. series doesn’t always stay true to scale
ok that kills the argument CYA
Part 2 is coming up in a few minutes which is shadow analyze
this is part 1
If you've been gone since before the Direct, here's about what happened 7 minutes in.
Sounds just fine.You might be missing a broken window or two. But otherwise, yeah this sums things up well.
I might not be the best to answer this but oh well. For me, I just want to play as more cool villains. And I think that Ridley almost as cool as Ganondorf. Not to mention it would be cool to see Metroid get some more recognition in a game like Smash. I would say that Ridley's one of few major Nintendo villains that hasn't been playable at least once. He isn't quite on Bowser's or Ganon's level, but he is the most prominent Metroid villain that had ties to the protagonist's origins. I'd argue he's the main villain of the Metroid series.One thing I don't understand is why there is just so much support for Ridley. He's this boss character in Metroid, and he is pretty big, and wouldn't normally be considered as a Smash fighter. It seems like a strange character to have such a cult following.
Well, being a Space Dragon that breathes fire alone would earn qualification points in my book (how would you NOT want to be that?). And unlike Kraid, Ridley is actually relatively small, and unlike a bigger antagonist like Mother Brain, Ridley is incredibly mobile.One thing I don't understand is why there is just so much support for Ridley. He's this boss character in Metroid, and he is pretty big, and wouldn't normally be considered as a Smash fighter. It seems like a strange character to have such a cult following.
Let me explain to you why we support him:One thing I don't understand is why there is just so much support for Ridley. He's this boss character in Metroid, and he is pretty big, and wouldn't normally be considered as a Smash fighter. It seems like a strange character to have such a cult following.
Wait, your biggest beef about Ridley is that he's just this "big scary monster boss"? And that you think is following is like a cult?One thing I don't understand is why there is just so much support for Ridley. He's this boss character in Metroid, and he is pretty big, and wouldn't normally be considered as a Smash fighter. It seems like a strange character to have such a cult following.
I'll lay it down plain and simple.One thing I don't understand is why there is just so much support for Ridley. He's this boss character in Metroid, and he is pretty big, and wouldn't normally be considered as a Smash fighter. It seems like a strange character to have such a cult following.
Wow, you really took offense to that. I don't have a problem with Ridley or his fans, I just think he's a bit of an odd character to have such popularity. I'd love to see him in.Wait, your biggest beef about Ridley is that he's just this "big scary monster boss"? And that you think is following is like a cult?
Wow, you really aren't familiar with the Metroid franchise are you? The reason Ridley is so damn popular is because he's the main villain of the series, and the one who basically set everything in motion by destroying Samus's home colony and killing her parents. He is to the franchise as Bowser and Ganondorf are to their respective franchises.
He is also the second most recurring character in the series, which really says something considering that nearly everyone else has a tendency to die in the game they're introduced in. As leader of the Space Pirates, his influence is seen everywhere wherever the Space Pirates attack, even after they're destroyed for good in Super Metroid.
His most defining characteristic, which is very much shown in all of his fights, is that he's a fierce and cunning warrior who revels in his bloodlust for battle. It's never about size. If you want to complain about a Metroid villain who's all about being big, look for Kraid.
Basically, if you're going to complain about someone being this "big boss who's all about being big", then we might as well cut out Bowser and Ganondorf because oh snap, they're gigantic in their games. Also, we shouldn't even consider K. Rool because he's nothing more than just a mere boss, who's also really BIG.