Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[MasterOfKnees]

That sure is a Ridley. I dunno though, something seems weird about the saturation on the wings. But maybe it's just me.

It's a product of using the textures of the original Other M model, opening it in 3DS Max also renders the wings transparent. The model used above is a model that can be found on BrawlVault btw.

 

[Vintage Creep]

I'm sure Ridley won't be in.
Not because that "he's too big" nonsense, but because of the 3DS hardware.
Come on guys, the 3DS will never be able to handle Ridley.

It's sad but it's true. Maybe next time.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I'm sure Ridley won't be in.
Not because that "he's too big" nonsense, but because of the 3DS hardware.
Come on guys, the 3DS will never be able to handle Ridley.

It's sad but it's true. Maybe next time.

Oh shucks. I guess they had to cut Groudon from X & Y too, since he's so big and also a bit detailed, not to mention the 3DS can't handle over 700 different fully animated Pokémons, so I guess we're down to about 500 Pokémons or so. Man, the 3DS sure sucks.

Just to make my post clear, the 3DS isn't very limited at all, simply because Sakurai made one comment in regards to Ice Climbers everyone are flipping their **** on it. Ridley's inclusion wouldn't take any more space than Charizard's, other than his model would be slightly bigger, but Bowser has already taken care of that. Make no mistake, the 3DS is a powerhouse.

 

[?????????????]

Entire Playstation 2 games have been ported to the 3DS, with updated graphics and extra features. Why would this even be a problem?

 

[Vintage Creep]

Oh shucks. I guess they had to cut Groudon from X & Y too, since he's so big and also a bit detailed, not to mention the 3DS can't handle over 700 different fully animated Pokémons, so I guess we're down to about 500 Pokémons or so. Man, the 3DS sure sucks.

Just to make my post clear, the 3DS isn't very limited at all, simply because Sakurai made one comment in regards to Ice Climbers everyone are flipping their **** on it. Ridley's inclusion wouldn't take any more space than Charizard's, other than his model would be slightly bigger, but Bowser has already taken care of that. Make no mistake, the 3DS is a powerhouse.

Eeeeeh that comparison with Groudon doesn't make sense but OK I guess.
I wasn't thinking about Ice Climbers, in fact, I'm 100% sure they will be in. That comparison is pretty weak too, their problem was related to the programming for the gameplay, not the model.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Eeeeeh that comparison with Groudon doesn't make sense but OK I guess.
I wasn't thinking about Ice Climbers, in fact, I'm 100% sure they will be in. That comparison is pretty weak too, their problem was related to the programming for the gameplay, not the model.

Yeah, the Groudon comparison was pretty weak, but it was the biggest Pokémon that isn't less detailed than a balloon (aka Wailord) that I could think of.

Thing is, the 3DS isn't weak at all, and it'd easily be able to carry a free for all with 4 Ridleys, as long as you make him about Bowser's size. Ridley really isn't very complex in his visuals. Heck, the 3DS has even had Ridley on it before, in DoA: Dimensions, and while he didn't have too many animations it could still carry a cutscene of him smashing the players into the wall, not to mention that he was a lot bigger than he'd be in Smash Bros.

Ridley's model won't cause any problems for the 3DS, the system is so criminally underrated around these parts, it's almost impressive how much it's being looked down at. The only thing it might have trouble with is exactly programming things, and even then it isn't all that restricted (which is why I consider ICs and PT to be in 100%). In terms of graphics it's not lacking at all, it just needs to optimize the models for usage on the 3DS, that's all.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Yeah, the Groudon comparison was pretty weak, but it was the biggest Pokémon that isn't less detailed than a balloon (aka Wailord) that I could think of.

Thing is, the 3DS isn't weak at all, and it'd easily be able to carry a free for all with 4 Ridleys, as long as you make him about Bowser's size. Ridley really isn't very complex in his visuals. Heck, the 3DS has even had Ridley on it before, in DoA: Dimensions, and while he didn't have too many animations it could still carry a cutscene of him smashing the players into the wall, not to mention that he was a lot bigger than he'd be in Smash Bros.

Ridley's model won't cause any problems for the 3DS, the system is so criminally underrated around these parts, it's almost impressive how much it's being looked down at. The only thing it might have trouble with is exactly programming things, and even then it isn't all that restricted (which is why I consider ICs and PT to be in 100%). In terms of graphics it's not lacking at all, it just needs to optimize the models for usage on the 3DS, that's all.

Well I hope you're right then.
Probably I'm just trying to prepare myself for disappointment when Ridley will be official NOT in the game for other various reasons.
Because he probably won't be in the game.

 

[IsmaR]

Groudon's actually not available in X/Y yet.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

The 3DS has the same if not more data space than Brawl did, and the model problem is overrated.

The only issue I can see for any character would be Pokémon Trainer, and even then, I wouldn't be too upset about him getting cut because it's a 3 for one deal.

 

[majora_787]

I thought the only issue they were having with characters were ones that were multiple simultaneous characters, like Ice Climbers and Olimar. I would think Pokemon Trainer would be okay, since you're only using one Pokemon at a time.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Well I hope you're right then.
Probably I'm just trying to prepare myself for disappointment when Ridley will be official NOT in the game for other various reasons.
Because he probably won't be in the game.

That's up to you to believe. I still have strong faith in it, and if he isn't in, oh well. My reaction will probably be a bit heavier than that if it's the case of course, but there's really not anything to do about it, so there's no reason to throw a fit, like I learned after Ridley was shown as a boss in Brawl for the first time.

Groudon's actually not available in X/Y yet.

I know, but it's still in the data obviously. Impatiently waiting for that Pokébank

 

[Deleted member]

Is someone seriously saying the 3DS can't handle Ridley, when he was already on the 3DS?

 

[majora_787]

After seeing Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, I am pretty sure the 3DS can handle Ridley.

 

[IsmaR]

I should also point this out, as far as 3DS handling sizes:

Wailord's actual size:

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Wailord in X/Y:

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[MasterOfKnees]

Wow, Wailord is pretty damn small in X & Y. I mean, I didn't expect it to be anime big, but at least Colosseum/Battle Revolution big, though they had much bigger battlefields too.

However, we aren't really banking on Ridley being twice the size of Bowser anyways, so it still shouldn't be a problem.

Also, good for Wailord that he got smaller actually, considering that his mass vs his weight in previous games made him nothing but a fancy balloon.

 

[majora_787]

As for the 3DS handling sizes, Jhen Mohran. Even better yet, Dara Amadyura. Monster Hunter 3G and Monster Hunter 4 respectively. If you're too lazy to look it up, their size classifications are the Jhen Mohran, Hallowed Jhen Mohran, Ceadeus, and Goldbeard Ceadeus which are all about the size of a football field.

And then we have the Dara Amadyura, which is approximated as the size of a small island. How 'bout it.

 

[Oasis_S]

I dunno how I'm not into Monster Hunter yet. So many big things to measure.

 

[Arcanir]

As for the 3DS handling sizes, Jhen Mohran. Even better yet, Dara Amadyura. Monster Hunter 3G and Monster Hunter 4 respectively. If you're too lazy to look it up, their size classifications are the Jhen Mohran, Hallowed Jhen Mohran, Ceadeus, and Goldbeard Ceadeus which are all about the size of a football field.

And then we have the Dara Amadyura, which is approximated as the size of a small island. How 'bout it.

...I can't wait until Monster Hunter 4 comes over.

Anyway, yeah the whole "the 3DS can't handle it!" argument doesn't work here. It has handled much larger and more complex enemies then a playable Ridley would ever be.

 

[majora_787]

And let us take a moment to acknowledge that these massive monsters are found anywhere in numbers from 1 to 3 at a time, in large and involved environments. Especially in 4. And then there are four players out and about at the same time. I think Dara Amadyura takes more than four players though.

Hell they can be in multiple large involved areas and be wandering around between them.

So I mean Monster Hunter shows pretty well what the 3DS is able to do.

 

[Welshy91]

Well that puts down yet another inane theory as to why Ridley can't be playable.

 

[IsmaR]

It's decided: I'm getting you a ruler for Christmas, Alek.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

It's decided: I'm getting you a ruler for Christmas, Alek.

I'm getting him measuring tape.

And a new apron.

 

[majora_787]

I'm glad Monster Hunter could be such a valuable tool in pro-Ridley...ocity...ism...ification. Yes.

But really looking at Monster Hunter it doesn't even make sense that people think Smash 4 will be skimping on any content, let alone being unable to handle RIdley.

 

[nessokman]

Believe in the lord Ridley Christ. Accept him into your heart and make him your lord and savior.

In Sakurai's name, Amen

 

[Pazzo.]

Ridley < Rathian from MH3U.

Anyway, what version of Ridley would y'all want for Smash 4?

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Believe in the lord Ridley Christ. Accept him into your heart and make him your lord and savior.

In Sakurai's name, Amen

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Not funny

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

I was watching monday night football yesterday and everytime i saw this players jersey, i couldnt help but think of the big guy

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(im not a pats fan, just thought it was kinda funny)

 

[majora_787]

Best case scenario we get Prime 1 Meta Ridley. But I doubt that'll happen, it will probably be some hybrid updated Other M Ridley. Which I am okay with.

 

[IsmaR]

All praise Saint Angelglory who will surely bless us with shoop of this.

 

[Welshy91]

Surprise announcement for Friday, there's a playable video where all you see is the background of the Galaxy stage. You hit play assuming a Mario character will appear, but Ridley crawls from behind the flying Mario head an proceeds to wreck ****.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Anyway, what version of Ridley would y'all want for Smash 4?

Preferably the Super Metroid design, as seen in Brawl. Though a dream of mine would be to see his Zero Mission design, since that's probably my favorite design of his.

We're of course getting the Other M design if anything though.

 

[Angelglory]

*browses thread*

*sees jersey*

*sees comment about a shoop*

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[majora_787]

That's just beautiful.

 

[Phaazoid]

Believe in the lord Ridley Christ. Accept him into your heart and make him your lord and savior.

In Sakurai's name, Amen

I do believe this is what we call a successful conversion

 

[Zhadgon]

I know which version of Ridley will be playable, obviously will be his most modern design:

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.n_n.

 

[StupendousMike]

Hello, fellow Ridley supporters! Wasn't sure if anyone had seen this, but I found it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJW1KcaD80k

It's a video compilation of every Ridley boss battle, and can probably used for quick reference. If Ridley's ever done it in a game, it's in this video.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

I know which version of Ridley will be playable, obviously will be his most modern design:

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.n_n.

Funny how I only now notice that his chest has the same icon as the... power on & off button?

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Yo momma's so big, Ridley said DAYUM!


....pretty sure that's been done before.

Nah, it was similar and involved Tharja's butt.

 

[Deleted member]

@Zhadgon:
Don't you mean Ice Ridley?

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[Louie G.]

So I guess Ridley is a bike company too?

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