The Official Eliwood For Brawl Thread (Eliwood, Hector, Lyn, Roy, and FE7 fans unite)

[ChronoBound]

In case of those who don't know, Eliwood is the second lord that you play as in Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword (or Fire Emblem as it is known outside Japan). Eliwood is also the father of Roy, and a powerful unlockable trial map character in FE6.

Biograpahy taken from Fire Emblem World:

A swordsman on a quest to find his father, Elbert, who had been kidnapped by the Dark Druid Nergal. Eliwood battles with a group of assassins called the Black Fang, morphs, and lastly a Fire Dragon to reach his destination. He is equipped with a rapier, and later, the Durandal, which he uses to battle Nergal. He is Roy's father. Eliwood also appears in Fire Emblem: Sword of Seals, but only through a very short period into the game. Eliwood's mother is Eleanora, who is guarded by Isadora, and his son is Roy, who first appeared in Super Smash Bros. Melee, then the sixth Fire Emblem game, which was made before Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword, the aforementioned Fire Emblem: Fuuin no Tsurugi.

Eliwood fights quite differently from his son, and could be made into a non-clone character despite being a sword-user.

Here is a list of special moves that Eliwood could have if he had a moveset.

B-Side: Flame Rush

Eliwood thrusts foward with his sword, and his sword bursts in flames. It works much like Fox's Phantasm, only its a bit slower, more powerful, and has a burning effect.

B-Up: Wheel of Fire

I am sort of imagining something like critical animation shown above, only there is not a foward thrust. Instead Eliwood's sword goes on fire, and spins in a circle (much like's Samus's Screw Attack).

Down-B: War Horse

Eliwood whistles for his war horse, and either his horse tramples other opponents, or he can mount it, increasing his speed, but it makes him a much bigger target.

B: Lance Throw:

Eliwood throws a Javelin at his enemies.

Final Smash: Family & Friends

Eliwood summons his son Roy, and his two best friends, Hector and Lyn. They all wreak havoc throughout the battlefield. Roy has moderate powerered Melee attacks, and can shoot fireballs out of his Sword of Seals at long-distane enemies. Getting hit by Hector's axe with about 50% damage, is instant KO (because he is Hector afterall). Lyn attacks the same way she does as an Assist Trophy.

Eliwood would be the average between Ike and Marth. Ike is a very slow, powerful, and heavy character, whereas I can see Marth being made into a very fast, light, and weak character in order to balance him out. Between these two extremes would be Eliwood. He would have average speed, average weight (similar to Mario), and average power. He would be a well-rounded sword-fighter character with no real weaknesses or strenghts, much like how Mario was in Melee.

Here is the analysis I wrote on Eliwood in my ULTIMATE Probable Playable Characters In Brawl Topic:

Eliwood is one of three lords in Fire Emblem (or Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword as it is known in Japan). Eliwood is the father of Roy, and was even a powerful unlockable trial map character in FE6. Eliwood is considered by many Fire Emblem fans to be the most important lord of Blazing Sword (though some say it is debatable). Unlike Roy, Eliwood has some things that can make him into a non-clone character. Eliwood could use a lance as a possible B-move and his horse for another B-move, and fights differently than his son or Marth. Although Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword is probably the best-selling Fire Emblem game counting worldwide sales, it was not too popular in Japan, and sold less than the Sword of Seals (Roy’s game), and is probably the fourth best-selling game in the series in Japan. Eliwood is also the least popular of the three lords from Blazing Sword in North America, where most of Blazing Sword’s popularity lies. However, Eliwood is the most popular lord from FE7 in Japan and probably the only lord from a Game Boy Advance Fire Emblem that is liked in that country. Eliwood is also one of two lords that I have seen Japanese fans want to get in as the third playable Fire Emblem character in Brawl (the other being Micaiah). Eliwood even ranked as the ninth-most wanted Smash Bros. character on a Japanese Brawl fansite for most wanted newcomer (the only Fire Emblem character that ranked higher than him was Ike, who ranked at third). With his son likely getting axed, it is quite possible that Sakurai could place in Eliwood as a replacement to Roy and the representative of Elibe and the Game Boy Advance Fire Emblems. I could see Eliwood as being a well-rounded character with no reals advantages or weaknesses (as opposed to Ike’s massive power, slow speed, and heavy weight, and Marth who will likely be made into the opposite of Ike) like he was in FE7. Overall, Eliwood is probably the dark horse of likely contenders for a third playable Fire Emblem character, and may surprise many North American Smash Bros. fans if he indeed gets in.

Since Eliwood is probably the only lord from Elibe and the GBA Fire Emblems who has a realistic shot at getting into Brawl as a a playable character, I think all fans of Hector, Roy (such as myself), Lyn, and Blazing Sword should unite behind him. Please don't go trolling this thread and say Eliwood sucks, this topic is just for fans of Eliwood and his son and best friends. However, I do want discussion as to how to perhaps craft Eliwood's A-moves and other stats.

Now for some artwork (major spoilers):

Eliwood is also a player:

 

[vesperview]

Wow that last pic is a little too raisy but that is an awesome first post, too bad Lyn is an AT and Roy will probably get the boot.

 

[ChronoBound]

Wow that last pic is a little too raisy but that is an awesome first post, too bad Lyn is an AT and Roy will probably get the boot.

Thank you, I am glad that you enjoyed my topic. And I am sorry if you were upset with me posting my analysis for Masked Boy in your topic. Yeah, although I am a big fan of Roy, I realize that he will probably get the boot, I just hope that there is a Fire Emblem character to replace him and his style (being a lord from Elibe, average spped and weight, and having fire be a major part of the B-moves), and Eliwood seems like the most likely character to be a direct-replacement of Roy.

 

[Shuma]

Too bad Lyn is an AT, Roy is **** and should go, Hector not over the Black Knight/Micaiah and Marth?.

 

[ChronoBound]

Too bad Lyn is an AT, Roy is **** and should go, Hector not over the Black Knight/Micaiah and Marth?.

Lyn and Hector are both disliked in Japan. If Lyn had been popular in Japan, she would have definitely been a playable character. Hector is even less liked than Lyn (mostly due to how weak he was in the Sword of Seals). Also, your Roy comment is uncalled for. I also say that Marth will definitely be the second represenative of Fire Emblem.

Please take your venom-laced tongue elsewhere.

 

[TaurToph]

I am a big fan of FE7, my first hope for brawl was Lyn, but i prefer the new mage, Micaiah... because i can't main an adult male.
That mean nothing for you but i'm sure you agree that there's too many males...
And few magic users, also!

 

[Shuma]

Ok... let me understand this. You know that Hector and Roy whon't be playable, yet you think Eliwood will?

What makes you think he has a best chance than Micaiah, Black Knight, Sigurd?(assuming Marth is in)

 

[ChronoBound]

My first #1 hope for brawl was Lyn...
I am a big fan of FE7, my first hope for brawl was Lyn, but i prefer the new mage, Micaya (is it her name?) from the new fire emblem. Just because i can't main an adult male.
That mean nothing for you but i'm sure you agree that there's too many males...

A lot of people who have played Radiant Dawn are already saying that she is a poor lord in both stats and character. Also, Krystal is very likely going to take the second Star Fox spot, and if you are interested in the chances of other plausible female characters, you should read my topic:

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=124098

 

[ChronoBound]

Ok... let me understand this. You know that Hector and Roy whon't be playable, yet you think Eliwood will?

What makes you think he has a best chance than Micaiah, Black Knight, Sigurd?(assuming Marth is in)

I frequented many Smash Bros. topics on 2ch and other Japanese sites, and many people seem to think that if there is a third Fire Emblem character it is going to be Eliwood or Micaiah.

Also, the rumor about Sigurd being Sakurai's favorite Fire Emblem character has been proven false, although I would very gladly take a character from Jugdral as the third Fire Emblem representative.

As for the Black Knight please read the Fire Emblem post in my analysis topic:

http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=3194958&postcount=8

 

[Fearthesmash]

When I saw the Lyn assist trophy, I was sad. I seriously hope we can get another FE7 Rep in here, And Eliwood could work.

 

[Shuma]

Well... whatever. I always liked Hector more.

 

[ChronoBound]

Well... whatever. I always liked Hector more.

Yeah, Hector is cool, though I prefer Eliwood over him. However, I definitely want him to be a part of Eliwood's Final Smash. If you have anyone to blame for Hector not being in Brawl as a playable character it should be Ike (again read the Fire Emblem post in my analysis topic).

 

[Kirby knight]

I find Eliwood entirely disinteresting, it's not that I loathe him or anything it's just like I said I find him disinteresting. To me Eliwood would either be entirely like Roy or Sigurd, not to mention his Durand which would be horrible to render, unless they shrink it.

Eliwood doesn't bring anything new to the table when compared to the lords; Marth, Micaiah, Sigurd and Roy. Yawn just talking about him makes me bored. Do not take my comments of Eliwood as a disrespect of FE7 to this day it is still my favorite Fire Emblem game of all time and of 3 lords in the game Eliwood was never that interesting to me.

-Knight

 

[ChronoBound]

I find Eliwood entirely disinteresting, it's not that I loathe him or anything it's just like I said I find him disinteresting. To me Eliwood would either be entirely like Roy or Sigurd, not to mention his Durand which would be horrible to render, unless they shrink it.

Eliwood doesn't bring anything new to the table when compared to the lords; Marth, Micaiah, Sigurd and Roy. Yawn just talking about him makes me bored. Do not take my comments of Eliwood as a disrespect of FE7 to this day it is still my favorite Fire Emblem game of all time and of 3 lords in the game Eliwood was never that interesting to me.

-Knight

Micaiah and Roy (which is coming from a big fan and user of him) bring less to the table than Eliwood in my opinion. However, I do think Sigurd should get priority over Eliwood, only because the two best Fire Emblems need to be represented and it would increase the chances of the games being localized.

 

[Kirby knight]

Micaiah and Roy (which is coming from a big fan and user of him) bring less to the table than Eliwood in my opinion. However, I do think Sigurd should get priority over Eliwood, only because the two best Fire Emblems need to be represented and it would increase the chances of the games being localized.

What exactly does Eliwood bring the the table that is entirely unique from Sigurd and Roy? and honestly I don't know how you can say Micaiah of all people brings less than the table than Eliwood does, could you elaborate further on that? What original qualities does Eliwood bring to the table that out prioritizes the qualities that Micaiah would?

-Knight

 

[ChronoBound]

What exactly does Eliwood bring the the table that is entirely unique from Sigurd and Roy? and honestly I don't know how you can say Micaiah of all people brings less than the table than Eliwood does, could you elaborate further on that? What original qualities does Eliwood bring to the table that out prioritizes the qualities that Micaiah would?

-Knight

Micaiah is a poor lord, and the continent of Tellius is already represented by Ike. Magic/Psycic characters were also bottom-tier in Melee, and it is likely that Krystal and Isaac are going to show up in Brawl (both have magic and psychic powers). Eliwood could be made into a non-clone character unlike his son, and his game sold more and was more cirtically acclaimed, and would serve to represent the first internationally released Fire Emblem as well as the continent of Elibe. However, I did say Sigurd would bring more than Eliwood.

 

[Shuma]

Even the Black Knight has more moveset potential.

 

[ChronoBound]

Even the Black Knight has more moveset potential.

What. Please don't let fanboyism cloud your judgement. Since you probably didn't read what I wrote on the Black Knight in my analysis topic I will post it here:

Black Knight: I understand that I may get a lot of anger for putting him in this category, but please here me out. The Black Knight is one of the most popular Fire Emblem villains, and one of the few villains to be in two games (the only other ones I can think of are Garnef and Medeus from the Akaneia Fire Emblem games). The Black Knight would basically be a very heavy, very, powerful, and very slow fighter. However, Ike is already all three of these. If the Black Knight was any slower than Ike, BK would be worthless (Ike is very slow in moving and attacking), if were any heavier he wouldn’t be able to be KO’d until at 100% damage, and if he were any more powerful he would KO-ing opponents at sub-20% damage levels. Ike already took the Black Knight’s spot, and if there is a second character from Tellius that is going to get in as playable character, it will be Micaiah. However, I think the Black Knight is most likely going to show up as either a boss, an Assist Trophy, a trophy, or a sticker. Even if his fans starting cheering him on for boss status, he would still have to compete with Medeus, the Dragon of Darkness, who was the most re-occurring villain of the Fire Emblem series (he was in FE1, FE3, and going to be in FE11).

 

[Kirby knight]

Micaiah is a poor lord, and the continent of Tellius is already represented by Ike. Magic/Psycic characters were also bottom-tier in Melee, and it is likely that Krystal and Isaac are going to show up in Brawl (both have magic and psychic powers). Eliwood could be made into a non-clone character unlike his son, and his game sold more and was more cirtically acclaimed, and would serve to represent the first internationally released Fire Emblem as well as the continent of Elibe. However, I did say Sigurd would bring more than Eliwood.

All of your arguments against Micaiah are very subjective and you did not go into enough detail with your responses for me to get a grasp on your message. Tell me how Micaiah is a poor lord and also tell me her being a poor lord in your eyes makes her a bad choice? Are you forgetting that SSB is not exactly canon the the franchises it represents, looking at Ike should tell you that.

Also again you use the argument of Melee tiers? What grounds do they hold at all? Last time I checked this is Brawl, using tier lists as an argument is horrible and it also holds very little ground.

Are you even aware of Lyndis's fanbase when compared to Eliwood's? She got the most support while Eliwood had none. You know why? People didn't like his personality, he doesn't bring anything unique to the table that Sigurd and or Roy could not, and your arguments are not very good at all.

I mean you also jump to the assumption that Issac and Krystal are to be in the game, and I have no idea where you were getting by bringing that up, surely you realize how unique magic is, it has many more variations than swords (not than I'm using swords as an agrument against anything, I'm just making a comparison).

-Knight

 

[ChronoBound]

All of your arguments against Micaiah are very subjective and you did not go into enough detail with your responses for me to get a grasp on your message. Tell me how Micaiah is a poor lord and also tell me her being a poor lord in your eyes makes her a bad choice? Are you forgetting that SSB is not exactly canon the the franchises it represents, looking at Ike should tell you that.

Also again you use the argument of Melee tiers? What grounds do they hold at all? Last time I checked this is Brawl, using tier lists as an argument is horrible and it also holds very little ground.

Are you even aware of Lyndis's fanbase when compared to Eliwood's? She got the most support while Eliwood had none. You know why? People didn't like his personality, he doesn't bring anything unique to the table that Sigurd and or Roy could not, and your arguments are not very good at all.

I mean you also jump to the assumption that Ike and Krystal are to be in the game, and I have no idea where you were getting by bringing that up, surely you realize how unique magic is, it has many more variations than swords (not than I'm using swords as an agrument against anything, I'm just making a comparison).

-Knight

Micaiah is considered a poor lord by people who played her game and is suffering from Roy-syndrome, in which most of her fans are fans of Smash Bros. whereas actual Fire Emblem fans who have played her game dislike her (which is the same for Roy). Also, Eliwood is a very popular Fire Emblem character, however, he is the least popular of the three lords from Blazing Sword among the NORTH AMERICAN fanbase, in Japan he is the only lord from a GBA game that the Japanese fanbase has a positive opinion of. Also, I see that you are a regular of the Micaiah topic, and are thus very much biased toward her. Can you please stop disrupting my topic with your discontentment and go back to that topic instead.

 

[Chaosblade77]

All of the GBA games went over poorly in Japan. Arguing any lords from any GBA games using Japan as a reference is like arguing Tingle and using the US as a reference.

Lyn had the largest worldwide fanbase of any Elibe character, and she got AT. That basically says that all Elibe characters are basically cut, since none of them can bring anything Lyn could not with the exception of Hector, and his fan base is far weaker than Lyn's was. I could also go into Sacred Stones, but it doesn't need to be brought up here.

Eliwood was not a "great" character. In fact he was quite frail in all of my playthroughs, I did not think he was great at all. He at least had some character development... (unlike certain lords from FE8).

I do think that Marth will take the second rep spot. I also think that Ike got in more for his popularity. Ike is a popular lord. No Marth or anything, but he is the most popular lord from an international game. Whether he is actually "advertising" or not, Micaiah does bring more to the table.

And the whole "in game" argument is null, Sakurai can alter them however he needs to. She could easily be a quick, agile mage with fairly weak attacks. There was not a "fast" magic character at all in Melee, she could pull that off in Brawl. Just look at Ike, he plays nothing like he was in either FE game.

 

[ChronoBound]

All of the GBA games went over poorly in Japan. Arguing any lords from any GBA games using Japan as a reference is like arguing Tingle and using the US as a reference.

Lyn had the largest worldwide fanbase of any Elibe character, and she got AT. That basically says that all Elibe characters are basically cut, since none of them can bring anything Lyn could not with the exception of Hector, and his fan base is far weaker than Lyn's was. I could also go into Sacred Stones, but it doesn't need to be brought up here.

Eliwood was not a "great" character. In fact he was quite frail in all of my playthroughs, I did not think he was great at all. He at least had some character development... (unlike certain lords from FE8).

I do think that Marth will take the second rep spot. I also think that Ike got in more for his popularity. Ike is a popular lord. No Marth or anything, but he is the most popular lord from an international game. Whether he is actually "advertising" or not, Micaiah does bring more to the table.

And the whole "in game" argument is null, Sakurai can alter them however he needs to. She could easily be a quick, agile mage with fairly weak attacks. There was not a "fast" magic character at all in Melee, she could pull that off in Brawl. Just look at Ike, he plays nothing like he was in either FE game.

*sigh* Its like the Micaiah fanboys have declared war on my topic. I am sick of her fans invading every topic that is Fire Emblem, and have suddenly crowned her as the only worthy third Fire Emblem character because she has an extra X chromosome.

 

[Chaosblade77]

*sigh* Its like the Micaiah fanboys have declared war on my topic. I am sick of her fans invading every topic that is Fire Emblem, and have suddenly crowned her as the only worthy third Fire Emblem character because she has an extra X chromosome.

Where did I mention her being female? She is the only lord you are arguing against so I have no reason to support the others. Her chances are hardly better than Sigurd's, if at all.

Fact is, I just don't see another Elibe character (or Magvel character) getting into Brawl due to Lyn getting AT. It's that simple.

 

[ChronoBound]

Where did I mention her being female? She is the only lord you are arguing against so I have no reason to support the others. Her chances are hardly better than Sigurd's, if at all.

Fact is, I just don't see another Elibe character (or Magvel character) getting into Brawl due to Lyn getting AT. It's that simple.

If I had choice of Sigurd or Micaiah, I would take Sigurd in a hearbeat. However, I am very upset at the arrogance of the Micaiah fanboys, especially since most of them have not even played her game.

 

[Chaosblade77]

If I had choice of Sigurd or Micaiah, I would take Sigurd in a hearbeat. However, I am very upset at the arrogance of the Micaiah fanboys, especially since most of them have not even played her game.

The main reason I support Micaiah for Brawl is because she is an FE lord, which gives her a chance to be in, and she does not use a sword. I'd rather a franchise as good as Fire Emblem not get stereotyped as being a "game full of blue haired swordsman."

But in the case FE gets a third rep, I am happy with any decision Sakurai makes. I think Micaiah is the only viable "new" (FE6 and later) rep that has a real chance, and there are several Japan only lords that have a chance, especially Sigurd, but the fact he is Japan only hurts him a bit since Sakurai himself stated he wanted to stay away from Japan only this time, with the exception of promotions (like Marth and Roy were).

So, sorry for that misunderstanding. Hopefully my reasoning makes sense to you (it makes sense in my head at least...)

 

[Kirby knight]

Micaiah is considered a poor lord by people who played her game and is suffering from Roy-syndrome, in which most of her fans are fans of Smash Bros. whereas actual Fire Emblem fans who have played her game dislike her (which is the same for Roy). Also, Eliwood is a very popular Fire Emblem character, however, he is the least popular of the three lords from Blazing Sword among the NORTH AMERICAN fanbase, in Japan he is the only lord from a GBA game that the Japanese fanbase has a positive opinion of. Also, I see that you are a regular of the Micaiah topic, and are thus very much biased toward her. Can you please stop disrupting my topic with your discontentment and go back to that topic instead.

So by being a poor lord translates into smash how? Your avoiding the points because it seems you cannot answer for them.

I post in the Micaiah thread, bit woop, tell me right now is their a single person in this world who isn't bias? I'm aware of her chances, and I have come to terms if she is not playable. How am I disrupting you topic? Is everyone who posts here suppose to agree with you? I think you need to go back to message boards 101 to see how they really work, so I will post as I see fit.

You still haven't elaborated on how Eliwood would be unique from both Sigurd and Roy and you haven't answered for Japan's general displeasure with the GBA titles, I mean I'll see if I can find a link but Nino was on top of the popularity poll.

-Knight

 

[Chaosblade77]

So by being a poor lord translates into smash how? Your avoiding the points because it seems you cannot answer for them.

I post in the Micaiah thread, bit woop, tell me right now is their a single person in this world who isn't bias? I'm aware of her chances, and I have come to terms if she is not playable. How am I disrupting you topic? Is everyone who posts here suppose to agree with you? I think you need to go back to message boards 101 to see how they really work, so I will post as I see fit.

You still haven't elaborated on how Eliwood would be unique from both Sigurd and Roy and you haven't answered for Japan's general displeasure with the GBA titles, I mean I'll see if I can find a link but Nino was on top of the popularity poll.

-Knight

I have that link somewhere. Nino was by far the most popular character from ANY GBA Fire Emblem release.

But I don't expect to see her in Brawl, mostly because she was such an unimportant character. She was awesome in game though.

 

[ChronoBound]

However, you do understand that Micaiah has Roy-syndrome right? (especially, if she gets in for promotional reasons like many of her supporters are saying)?

Also, from now on I am banning any further talk about Micaiah in my topic. If anyone else posts anything relating to Micaiah, I am going to go over to Micaiah Support Thread and roundhouse kick the entire topic Chuck Norris-style with a VERY long analysis essay on why she is a horrible character in her game and why she would be a bad choice for Brawl.

 

[ChronoBound]

So by being a poor lord translates into smash how? Your avoiding the points because it seems you cannot answer for them.

I post in the Micaiah thread, bit woop, tell me right now is their a single person in this world who isn't bias? I'm aware of her chances, and I have come to terms if she is not playable. How am I disrupting you topic? Is everyone who posts here suppose to agree with you? I think you need to go back to message boards 101 to see how they really work, so I will post as I see fit.

You still haven't elaborated on how Eliwood would be unique from both Sigurd and Roy and you haven't answered for Japan's general displeasure with the GBA titles, I mean I'll see if I can find a link but Nino was on top of the popularity poll.

-Knight

Japan likes Eliwood though, and Radiant Dawn bombed in Japan and is one of the worst-selling Fire Emblems to date.

 

[Kirby knight]

However, you do understand that Micaiah has Roy-syndrome right? (especially, if she gets in for promotional reasons like many of her supporters are saying)?

Also, from now on I am banning any further talk about Micaiah in my topic. If anyone else posts anything relating to Micaiah, I am going to go over to Micaiah Support Thread and roundhouse kick the entire topic Chuck Norris-style with a VERY long analysis essay on why she is a horrible character in her game and why she would be a bad choice for Brawl.

Who on earth do you think you are? You don't have the authority to ban anything. All of what I said pertaining to Micaiah was related to Eliwood so I was not posting off topic. Be my guest if you want to write up analysis as to why you think Micaiah is a horrible character, I will of course will respond with logical reasoning if you do decide to post it, unlike you have done with the thread you created.

-Knight

 

[Kirby knight]

Japan likes Eliwood though, and Radiant Dawn bombed in Japan and is one of the worst-selling Fire Emblems to date.

That contradicts the fact the Japan had utter displeasure with the GBA titles, and I'm not just talking about Micaiah, which you seem to adamant about returning the discussion to but also Roy and Sigurd as well, it seems that you only read what you want to read and what you want to read is what I type that is only pertaining to Micaiah, which in fact I'm also talking about Roy and Sigurd as well.

-Knight

 

[ChronoBound]

Who on earth do you think you are? You don't have the authority to ban anything. All of what I said pertaining to Micaiah was related to Eliwood so I was not posting off topic. Be my guest if you want to write up analysis as to why you think Micaiah is a horrible character, I will of course will respond with logical reasoning if you do decide to post it, unlike you have done with the thread you created.

-Knight

You are the one being illogical. This is your last warning, once I get started on an analysis essay it drags on for several pages and I might even start a topic if is long enough. Please cut it out. I created thiis topic for discussion about a possible inclusion of Eliwood in Brawl, so unless you have something to add to this topic other than bickering please leave. My patience is wearing thin.

 

[ChronoBound]

That contradicts the fact the Japan had utter displeasure with the GBA titles, and I'm not just talking about Micaiah, which you seem to adamant about returning the discussion to but also Roy and Sigurd as well, it seems that you only read what you want to read and what you want to read is what I type that is only pertaining to Micaiah, which in fact I'm also talking about Roy and Sigurd as well.

-Knight

Sigurd's game sold 600K in Japan. Roy's game sold 500K. They did not sell poorly at all. And I am now beginning to write my analysis paper about the fanboyism of female characters.

 

[Kirby knight]

You are the one being illogical. This is your last warning, once I get started on an analysis essay it drags on for several pages and I might even start a topic if is long enough. Please cut it out. I created thiis topic for discussion about a possible inclusion of Eliwood in Brawl, so unless you have something to add to this topic other than bickering please leave. My patience is wearing thin.

Your warning sounds like a threat to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just because they are entitled to it does not mean that everyone has to agree with it. If you want to write it; then write it.

With your selective reading... I guess you missed when I asked you "What make Eliwood different from Roy and Sigurd and what new things does he bring to the table if he was to be included", but you don't see that, and you won't answer, instead you focus all of your attention on Micaiah which wasn't my original intent when I first posted here, to talk about her.

Who makes a thread about a character, yet refusedsto answer question regarding such and such a character? You I guess.

-Knight

 

[ChronoBound]

Your warning sounds like a threat to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just because they are entitled to it does not mean that everyone has to agree with it. If you want to write it; then write it.

With your selective reading... I guess you missed when I asked you "What make Eliwood different from Roy and Sigurd and what new things does he bring to the table if he was to be included", but you don't see that, and you won't answer, instead you focus all of your attention on Micaiah which wasn't my original intent when I first posted here, to talk about her.

Who makes a thread about a character, yet refusedsto answer question regarding such and such a character? You I guess.

-Knight

I am tired of you sabatoging my thread. It is you who entered this thread with your Micaiah fanboyism, and it is you who is being illogical.

 

[Chaosblade77]

I am tired of you sabatoging my thread. It is you who entered this thread with your Micaiah fanboyism, and it is you who is being illogical.

His problem does not even have anything to do with Micaiah though... he is asking why Eliwood is a better choice than Sigurd and Roy, and how he can offer more to the game than those two can. All of them are just FE swordsman, what does Eliwood have that they don't?

Gah, typo.

 

[Kirby knight]

I am tired of you sabatoging my thread. It is you who entered this thread with your Micaiah fanboyism, and it is you who is being illogical.

I don't even know what your talking about to be perfectly honest, I've tried and tired again to steer the conversation away from Micaiah but it seems you loathe the character so much that you bring her up at any chance you get.

I would be perfectly fine talking about something else, but it it you who keeps bringing up Micaiah. Can you not be infracted for creating a thread yet discussing things that are obviously off topic? You just won't stop, I hope this thread is locked to stop you from taking this off-topic anymore than it needs to be.

-Knight

 

[NukeA6]

Eliwood isn't getting in before Roy and I doubt his chances. I'd rather get a non-sword user for a third FE character (I'm assuming the second will be Marth).

 

[ChronoBound]

I don't even know what your talking about to be perfectly honest, I've tried and tired again to steer the conversation away from Micaiah but it seems you loathe the character so much that you bring her up at any chance you get.

I would be perfectly fine talking about something else, but it it you who keeps bringing up Micaiah. Can you not be infracted for creating a thread yet discussing things that are obviously off topic? You just won't stop, I hope this thread is locked to stop you from taking this off-topic anymore than it needs to be.

-Knight

You are the one being off-topic. Please leave. I am going to lock this topic and hopefully start over (is it even possible for non-mods to lock a topic)?

 

[Kirby knight]

You are the one being off-topic. Please leave. I am going to lock this topic and hopefully start over (is it even possible for non-mods to lock a topic)?

How is asking how Eliwood is a better choice than Roy or Sigurd and what unique qualities he brings to the table that they do not, off topic in a thread about Eliwood? I don't understand you at all.

And to answer your question about locking your own thread, I'm pretty sure only a mod can lock/unlock a thread, however I guess you could PM a mod to do it for you.

-Knight