The Royal Theater - King Dedede Video Thread

[Locuan]

oh hey
Now my fellow Dedede mains can criticize me.

That should help me out as well

 

[Jdawg26]

oh hey
Now my fellow Dedede mains can criticize me.

General notes: Overall it seemed that you're playing way too defensively early, either from matchup inexperience or from lag online. The Lucina player was walking all over you and getting way too many grabs and spaced aerials out because you never challenged her in the air throughout the game. Also you shield a lot in place of moving out of position; which is something that a lot of higher level players will punish with a break or grab. Just be careful!

However you did a great job at capitalizing on your opponent not knowing how to deal with Gordos. Honestly, that probably won you the match. Under normal conditions Lucina can just shfair or even jab to deal with those, so just be wary of that; it may not work as well in offline play.

Timestamp comments:

1:55- Dsmash was a pretty bad choice, at the percent a grab would've gotten you more mileage. Hindsight is 20/20 however, you probably figured that out soon after it happened.

2:15- Great read on the DI out of the swallow, I'm probably gonna steal that for my notes!

3:07- That was a free punish that you missed, although it looked like a grab was buffered. I'm going to chalk it up to lag eating your input, it seemed like the right idea.

3:14- This is where the match goes downhill for Lucina... Once again, great job picking up your opponent's Gordo weakness.

I'm going to stop commenting after that as most of the match is just Lucina running into your Gordos at that point.

Wrap up: All in all you played well, but far too safe than the situation called for in my opinion. D3 actually has a good amount of free shield pressure on Lucina since she's tall enough for shbair to hit her and still auto cancel. Also utilt can hit her and most taller characters even when D3 is facing the wrong direction, it's useful for covering multiple landing options if they airdodge into you/misplace an aerial. Make sure to use all of your options! Especially dtilit, I feel like it's very good most matchups.

Hope that helped!

EDIT TO AVOID DOUBLE POSTING

Also, I found another vod of one of my matches. Please help me figure out how to fight Diddy... q.q
Any advice on how to deal with the monkey flip would be useful as well.
http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/b/632322479?t=1h09m30s

 

[Thee Incubus]

Hey all. I usually don't post to these forums very much, but I've hit a wall with my d3. As far as I know there aren't many high ranking d3s out there, but any help would be appreciated. Here are some of my matches:

S@X - Blaze (Kirby) Vs. Jdawg (DeDeDe) SSB4 Bracket - Smash 4: http://youtu.be/OEwudYSnPsg

S@X - VGBC | Logic (Diddy Kong) Vs. Jdawg (DeDeDe, Sheik) SSB4 Winners Q...: http://youtu.be/mjc-swSq0Mc

I have a few more matches coming up in the future, thanks for your help!

I got to play a set Vs Logic on my stream. We ended 2-1 and he took it, but still fun games nontheless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgXxjumS1Bw

Please ignore my obnoxious stream it was recorded from :3

 

[Ffamran]

The Sandwhale's Yoshi and Triple D vs. Count's Pikachu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo_7jU61XM0.

Lucas Tizma's Triple D vs. A Thug's Toon Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1FhNv_09Og.

Lucas Tizma's Triple D vs. Scourge's Mii Brawler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CGO657NlsE.

 

[W.A.C.]

Is anyone able to find tournament footage with a King Dedede player using custom moves? This match is the only one I can find. I used King Dedede at a tournament yesterday for the first time using 1322. I won some rounds with him, but SD'd off stage early in a match when I accidentally used his neutral special instead of his side special. I never considered using him at tournaments before because I dislike his standard up special and rarely find his standard down special useful with 1v1's, but his custom move variations are far more useful and fun, plus bouncing gordos is one of the most fun stage control moves I've ever used in a Smash Bros. game. Custom moves allow me to play way more defensively with King Dedede, which is very appealing to me.

 

[Ffamran]

From Team Ragnarok, a Puerto Rican Smash community, we have Rizu's Triple D vs. MightGalo's Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d49tjbd9u0A.

Rizu's Triple D and Wii Fit Trainer vs. Excel_Zero's Sheik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA53nAhjkGE.

 

[Soul Train]

From Team Ragnarok, a Puerto Rican Smash community, we have Rizu's Triple D vs. MightGalo's Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d49tjbd9u0A.

Rizu's Triple D and Wii Fit Trainer vs. Excel_Zero's Sheik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA53nAhjkGE.

No idea how you found this, but some great D3 play there in the first video! Solid space control with Gordo, reflecting with Nair, and reads.

But then got demolished with some sloppy play with that Shiek, meh. Yet the fact that this guy plays D3/Wii Fit Trainer...he just wins by default.

 

[Ffamran]

No idea how you found this, but some great D3 play there in the first video! Solid space control with Gordo, reflecting with Nair, and reads.

But then got demolished with some sloppy play with that Shiek, meh. Yet the fact that this guy plays D3/Wii Fit Trainer...he just wins by default.

I was looking for recent Falco videos and I saw "Team Ragnarok PR" and checked them out and saw some wicked gameplay of Falco. I posted one of Manny Manito's, the Falco's, videos in the Character Competitive Impressions thread first and asked about Team Ragnarok and Locuan told me they were a Puerto Rican Smash community. I didn't watch these, but there were some awesome matches like the grand finals had a Yoshi vs. a Fox. Of the notable characters, it was Mega Man, Falco, Greninja, Pikachu, Yoshi, Mario, Triple D, Wii Fit, and Larry. The rest were Sheik, Luigi, ZSS, Captain Falcon, and Fox. Oh, and there was one Diddy. Just one. Kraven's Fox is super aggressive, so even though this isn't the Fox video thread, you should watch the grand finals or any of Kraven's matches.

From what Locuan and Charls - he played Lucario and Marth against Manny in the uploaded videos - said, Excel_Zero plays Peach in Melee and PM, so Excel might just picked up Sheik and didn't want to play Peach to prevent himself from messing up his Melee/PM Peach like how aMSa doesn't play Yoshi or Mew2King doesn't play Sheik in SSB4.

Edit: The only Triple D video uploaded on United French Smashers; Reyson's Triple D and Shulk vs. Fan's Yoshi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh2jsJDm2a0.

Edit 2: Edit Harder: Caravan's Triple D vs. Vegas702's Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_tXkDnDin0.

Doubledorf's Triple D vs. 72cm's Ganondorf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7er2MMxnn3A.

 

[Thee Incubus]

Can I get some tips on my set vs VGBC | Logic? Diddy kinda wrecked. Did okay i think v Olimar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moYzx_70IlY

 

[Soul Train]

Can I get some tips on my set vs VGBC | Logic? Diddy kinda wrecked. Did okay i think v Olimar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moYzx_70IlY

Ok 1. Where did you get that hat, 2. Is the a purple version, and if so 3. Take my money. Otherwise - not a bad D3. This is a hard matchup and you did well. I like your aerial spacing a lot - one of D3's deadliest kill moves is FF Bair, and you're great with it.

Diddy: there's a lot of great knowledge right now in the matchup thread, but I'll highlight one point here: Gimping. It's your biggest advantage over Diddy, so abuse everything you have to get him offstage. Specifically: 1. Inhale. A few times you just spat him back out when you could've turned around and spat him offstage. 2. Gordo edgetraps. Change yours up - you usually went for UGordo + attack when he was recovering (especially Fsmash, I know it feels great but it's the most predictable). Try UGordo + empty jump to grab, or UGordo + ledge trump, etc.

Alright, Gordo - let's talk about the mindset on how and why you use them. They're much more than an edgeguarding tool/a projectile that can be hit back in your face. Use them more to threaten, NOT hit the opponent. I made a video on this - watch here if you want - but the best tip would be to WANT the reflect and COVER it with NAir/Dtilts. A good D3 almost never gets hit by his own Gordos.

Olimar: this is actually one of my favorite matchups as D3 - because Gordos PLOW straight through and destroy his Pikmin. That is, except for the purple ones. Just be aware of what Pikmin are next in line, Gordo/shield appropriately, and you'll give Olimar a hard time. Ftilt especially eats him. He can't outrange you, camp you, or kill you quickly - combined with his light weight, this should be in your favor.

Do more:
Grounded approaching. Didn't see much of it - and while D3 is great in the air, he does have some good grounded options (grab range, Dtilt, etc).
DTILT. It's your fastest move, starts combos at 0%, allows you to approach while attacking, and knocks offstage at high %s.
Pivot Ftilt. It's One of your most powerful ground options, and didn't see much of it here either. Abuse.
Gordo stage control. See video link above.
Fastfall into grab. He shielded your FF aerials a lot because he's (rightly) afraid of your Nair/Bair. So mix it up and grab instead of Bair sometimes. It's a critical part of D3's aerial mixup game (bait, attack, FF grab).

Do less:
Hitting yourself with Gordo. Already talked about.
Forward/back rolls. I saw them often when a simple spotdodge/jump would've accomplished the same purpose but have given you a bit more mobility. I do this too, so preaching to myself here
Uair resets against a good Diddy. Diddy players know they have great aerials, so they mash like nuts. It's annoying, I hate it, but it's the truth.

 

[Thee Incubus]

^^ Hat was made by me :3
Thanks a ton. I don't know why I never thought of things like gordo into ledge trump. Really cool idea. I think we Dededes dont see enough in tourneys so we develop solely on our own and do what works for us.

Cool to have some of these new ideas enter my head. I agree my ground game could be better. Last time me and Logic played, he said I should grab more and play the ground more. Looks like I still need to expand my ground game.

Thanks again for the feedback.

 

[Ffamran]

Uploaded on terminalkai, Triple D vs. Toon Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg1ILtV1bSI.

 

[Soul Train]

Uploaded on terminalkai, Triple D vs. Toon Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg1ILtV1bSI.

Nice find yet again and...good lord. Solid D3 play against a even more solid/annoying Toon Link. Reason #987 to ban Battlefield as D3, all of his options kept getting shut down while TL's just got better and better. Also this is a reason why I think adult Link is an easier matchup than Toon...size really does make a difference.

 

[Ffamran]

Nice find yet again and...good lord. Solid D3 play against a even more solid/annoying Toon Link. Reason #987 to ban Battlefield as D3, all of his options kept getting shut down while TL's just got better and better. Also this is a reason why I think adult Link is an easier matchup than Toon...size really does make a difference.

Hey, at least Triple D has a (disjointed) hammer, all Falco and Ganondorf are have are their fists and feet (and tail for Falco). The only character I play well enough to cover stuff is Ike. Fighting Pikachu, Kirby, Mr. Game & Watch, and Jigglypuff are a pain since they're so small. Toon Link is at least about Mario's height.

Edit: From showdowngg, Come on and Ban #12, Kato's Falco and Triple D vs. NWA's Wii Fit Trainer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--5wFRsrdzY.

Rice continuing to showcase characters, his Greninja and Triple D vs Scourge's Robin and Bowser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OQmZr0YZZY.

Pump Magic's Triple D vs. Edo's Ness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mpRr1m_js8.

 

[toadster101]

Uploaded on terminalkai, Triple D vs. Toon Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg1ILtV1bSI.

That was painful to watch. To be fair, the Dedede user made a lot of mistakes, but this video shows just how bad Battlefield is for him. Don't even get me started on Toon Link. I'm also starting to believe that he's a worse matchup for Dedede than regular Link.

 

[Ffamran]

That was painful to watch. To be fair, the Dedede user made a lot of mistakes, but this video shows just how bad Battlefield is for him. Don't even get me started on Toon Link. I'm also starting to believe that he's a worse matchup for Dedede than regular Link.

I didn't watch that video, so yeah... Well, considering that Toon Link's about half Link's height, it would be difficult to hit him, especially if you're a slower character. There's a reason why people complain about Pikachu being the electric mouse it is.

 

[dean.]

OP's looking a bit barren for Wii U - anyone know of any videos that we could add?

 

[TMJ_Jack]

I wish I had an option to capture my matches. I'd have so much to share with His Majesty's Royal Theatre.

 

[Girthquake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu4syfeX-Bs

 

[W.A.C.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu4syfeX-Bs

That montage video was hype and hilarious. Great work. What do you think of Dedede's custom move Bouncing Gordos? I noticed you used some of his customs, but not that one. I'm currently using King Dedede's custom setup 3322 for tournaments, so it's surprising to see Bouncing Gordos rarely get used by people when it's such a good move.

 

[iiGGYxD]

I plan on using more DDD at the shockwave weekly tournaments here in the dallas area soon so you'll have some vids of me soooooooooooooon.........

 

[W.A.C.]

I plan on using more DDD at the shockwave weekly tournaments here in the dallas area soon so you'll have some vids of me soooooooooooooon.........

Sweet. Will you use Bouncing Gordos again? You're literally the only player I've seen at a tournament ever use that custom move. My current setup for tournaments is 3322.

 

[Girthquake]

That montage video was hype and hilarious. Great work. What do you think of Dedede's custom move Bouncing Gordos? I noticed you used some of his customs, but not that one. I'm currently using King Dedede's custom setup 3322 for tournaments, so it's surprising to see Bouncing Gordos rarely get used by people when it's such a good move.

Personally, I don't even really like most of D3s customs. I enjoy Taste Test and the Dash Jet Hammer but other than that I'm not comfortable with the other ones. I use Rising DeDeDe for some cheese as you saw. I see potential in some of the other gordo customs but I don't think they outshine the default Gordo. That specific Gordo and it's mechanics are kind of core to D3s kit in my opinion. Maybe some match ups and maybe some people will just wreck like crazy with the custom ones.

 

[Doublenickels]

Hi, I'm for the most part a Yoshi main, but I've been using Dedede as a secondary and was wondering if I could get some help from you guys on improving my Dedede. Unfortunately all I have are some low quality FG replays to share at the moment, I haven't had anything recorded from tourneys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFMFvD-zsDI&feature=youtu.be (vs. Sheik)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuNEs-AdvK0&feature=youtu.be (vs. DK)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeNVCZEVMnU&feature=youtu.be (vs. Yoshi)

A few things I've already been made aware of: Too much inhale, when FF-nair would be a better option especially. Needing better timing on jab-jab-grab, need to do better using ground game in the neutral, too many straight on gordos and recovering high too often. If you have anything else to add I'd really appreciate it, playing with Dedede is so much fun and I'd love to be more comfortable breaking him out in tourneys once in a while.

 

[Soul Train]

snip

There's a lot I see here. As a whole, familiarity with the character's ranges and efficiency in your movements would really help. D3's not a character that can afford wasted (read: unsafe) movements, and without efficiency you will be destroyed by the many fast characters in the game. Each of D3's moves cover a specific option; know what they are and when not to use them (Inhale is a close-range mixup, Gordo is a pressure tool).

With spacing there's a lot to talk through, but give this a look first and let me know if you have more questions after.

 

[Doublenickels]

There's a lot I see here. As a whole, familiarity with the character's ranges and efficiency in your movements would really help. D3's not a character that can afford wasted (read: unsafe) movements, and without efficiency you will be destroyed by the many fast characters in the game. Each of D3's moves cover a specific option; know what they are and when not to use them (Inhale is a close-range mixup, Gordo is a pressure tool).

With spacing there's a lot to talk through, but give this a look first and let me know if you have more questions after.

Hey, thanks that's very useful and very much the type of thing I was looking to improve, I took a look at the other parts of your guide as well and will plan on implementing a lot of the information. Thanks a lot.

 

[Jdawg26]

Here's another video dump. I've improved a ton in the last couple of weeks so you can critique them if you want, but odds are I've done it a dozen times already. Just posting so you guys can learn from my mistakes.

https://youtu.be/3NHdMJWysk4 Me vs GIMR (Falco/GW)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGA3jMhKoIQ&index=6&list=PLcMdMmtHkPpQtJBavhiy6VA_3Evs5IEFj Me vs Logic (Diddy)

https://youtu.be/Rfaud7yACtE Me vs Blur (Falcon)

https://youtu.be/KPDpMwWS4g4 Me vs Boss (Luigi) I got bodied game 1 but game two was better lol.

https://youtu.be/jNvWk9SOxU4 Bonus: Team match vs LLOD and Smash God

 

[Soul Train]

Here's another video dump. I've improved a ton in the last couple of weeks so you can critique them if you want, but odds are I've done it a dozen times already. Just posting so you guys can learn from my mistakes.

Just because I'd have to say it for every match so I'll say it once here: smart play and fantastic defense as always, Jdawg. I really only have a few thoughts:

• vs GIMR: why no ban of Battlefield - I'm guessing you banned Lylat instead? Personally I prefer to ban the former over the latter, but I'm sure you have many reasons. I'd ask about your few Usmash misses/uses, but I'm sure that was just input error that you're well aware of. At 2:57 you missed the insta-ledgetrump - which you know - but what specific input error causes that? I ask because I do it all the time, wondering for practice reasons.
• vs Blur: Falcon is hard, yet you did great work against him. Dat regrab combo around 10:15 blew their minds, great to see some D3 respect happening. Smart staying D3 against Jiggly.
• vs Logic: dammit, Diddy. Mad respect for your staying with D3, but felt the pain in that decision moment. Loved your ledge trump @4:51, a great technique D3s need to abuse more.
• vs Boss: welp. Boss is ridiculous, that's just a fact of life. Would really love to hear your thoughts on this matchup (how to not get grabbed like nuts), and there were several missed punishes. I am surprised at the lack of a counterpick stage - no Castle Siege? One other thought - as Boss was so on point with his aggressive ledgeguarding, maybe going for the UpB-ground pound mixup would've been a better option at times. Done right, D3 might've armored through Luigi's moves and punished. Just spitballing, though.

Honestly - I think we'd all benefit much more from hearing your thoughts. Tips or even just those self-critiques you mention - against Falco/Falcon/Diddy/Luigi - would really help the rest of us D3 players a lot.

Also I finally got my own Wii U and want some matches sometime.

 

[Gojirakaiju]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94R8p6R2Uic&feature=youtu.be

Check this video I made out! Thoughts, suggestions, comments?

 

[Ludiloco]

Dedede's up air reset has been known about for some time. It is nice to rack up damage quickly, but I'd hardly say it's something every D3 main needs to know. I think if your opponent mashes A (especially dependent on matchup) they can get a jab off or a neutral air to disrupt the throw combo, and after 2 or 3 of them the opponent will be flung too far by down throw to combo into up air. Personally I'd rather not stale my up air either, as it's probably his best kill move.

If you could really discover something big with the chain that'd definitely be groundbreaking for D3's meta, but as of now I think it's just good when you're going to lose your stock soon and you just want to rack up some damage quickly.

 

[Gojirakaiju]

I dont have human opponets to test this against but I know some slower characters have nothing that beats the re-grab at certain %s. Not to mention doing this offstage is kinda funny as well but not really practical. I also figured this was already discovered but I didn't know for sure.

As you mentioned some characters can jump out or attack before hitting the ground even (looking at you floaties) at low %. However , it seems mid weight characters cant really do anything but spot dodge or roll which on read are very punishable.

Thanks for the feedback though. If i could get frame data and recovery data on this reset somehow I would try to look into more to create the best possible mix-up options out of this.

P.S. I will be posting actual matches in here of my King DDD in due time.

 

[Thee Incubus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94R8p6R2Uic&feature=youtu.be

Check this video I made out! Thoughts, suggestions, comments?

Its ok just a video on info we have had since 3ds release.

 

[Jdawg26]

Just because I'd have to say it for every match so I'll say it once here: smart play and fantastic defense as always, Jdawg. I really only have a few thoughts:

• vs GIMR: why no ban of Battlefield - I'm guessing you banned Lylat instead? Personally I prefer to ban the former over the latter, but I'm sure you have many reasons. I'd ask about your few Usmash misses/uses, but I'm sure that was just input error that you're well aware of. At 2:57 you missed the insta-ledgetrump - which you know - but what specific input error causes that? I ask because I do it all the time, wondering for practice reasons.
• vs Blur: Falcon is hard, yet you did great work against him. Dat regrab combo around 10:15 blew their minds, great to see some D3 respect happening. Smart staying D3 against Jiggly.
• vs Logic: dammit, Diddy. Mad respect for your staying with D3, but felt the pain in that decision moment. Loved your ledge trump @4:51, a great technique D3s need to abuse more.
• vs Boss: welp. Boss is ridiculous, that's just a fact of life. Would really love to hear your thoughts on this matchup (how to not get grabbed like nuts), and there were several missed punishes. I am surprised at the lack of a counterpick stage - no Castle Siege? One other thought - as Boss was so on point with his aggressive ledgeguarding, maybe going for the UpB-ground pound mixup would've been a better option at times. Done right, D3 might've armored through Luigi's moves and punished. Just spitballing, though.

Honestly - I think we'd all benefit much more from hearing your thoughts. Tips or even just those self-critiques you mention - against Falco/Falcon/Diddy/Luigi - would really help the rest of us D3 players a lot.

Also I finally got my own Wii U and want some matches sometime.

vs GIMR: The stage striking just kind of panned out that way. I had a few misconceptions about how Falco worked in this game and figured it wouldn't be a bad choice... I was wrong lol. Some of the usmashes were misread phantasm punishes while others were just misspaced. As for the missed trump, it usually happens when you hold down just a bit too long. Try to slow down the forward motion part and speed up the parts where you're holding down to compensate.

I guess the big takeway from that matchup is to respect the hell out of Falco's Uair since it comes out a lot faster than you'd expect it to. And his jab is no joke, try not to be in that range because it'll beat out most of your options. A lot of Falco's moves are really fast actually, it's a weird matchup considering how slow his ground speed is.

vs. Blur: This matchup is hard if the Falcon player knows it. I don't really have much MU specific advice, it really just boils down to playing your game over his, and trying not to fall into his tricks. You can't whiff anything against Falcon, so make every single move count. Also, don't hit his shield with anything other than jab unless you're sure he's going to drop it during a multi-hit move. Also, my ledgeguarding game could have been much better. I've been working on that more as of late.

vs. Logic: That matchup is whack LOL. I'd offer advice but the patch changed a lot of nuances about the matchup. We should have a much easier time living and actually being able to fight against Diddy without dying to an errant uair at random times. Also the Hoo-hah is nerfed, so that's a nice little bonus~

vs. Boss: Boss actually bans Castle against me after I took a game off of him there once lol. The problem with D3 not having many good stages is that it's easy to ban him out... Anyway, the key to this matchup is all spacing. Luigi can dish out crazy damage but only if you're in his effective zones. Granted, it's hard to stay out of those zones since D3's aerial mobility is so slow, but just do what you can to avoid getting grabbed because that's a free 60% easy.

The cool thing about this matchup is that you can actually contest Luigi's shield due to his weird traction. Landing is a little bit easier, however the whole neutral game isn't. Also you can't get jabbed either, because that'll always lead into a grab. I would've loved to go for the up-b ground mixups, but if I didn't break his shield I was probably gonna get up-b'd and die earlier.

tl;dr this matchup sucks. You can hit his shield though which is kind of nice.

But yeah if you want to play some games feel free to add me. My nnid is Jdawg26

 

[Dezmu]

Thought I'd leave a video here, feel free to give some input

 

[DrizzyDrew]

a HILARIOUS video of me using King Dedede while trying to complete Allstar mode on the hardest difficulty. LOL I was dying during editing. King Dedede is now known as King Shiet!

CAUTION: CONTAINS MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF HYPE!!!

https://youtu.be/WN9FB3eY1jc

 

[El_Bardo]

Hello Everyone, let me leave here some replays of myself. Short story : Here in spain, we have a biweekly ladder matches betwen the current Top 10 of Spain , where i am included. As i play mostly Dedede, this can help some other people to check some troublesome matchups :

vs Captain Falcon : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJiFRJ7g9w4

vs Pikachu : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmiiTWCfGUU

 

[Soul Train]

Hello Everyone, let me leave here some replays of myself. Short story : Here in spain, we have a biweekly ladder matches betwen the current Top 10 of Spain , where i am included. As i play mostly Dedede, this can help some other people to check some troublesome matchups :

vs Captain Falcon : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJiFRJ7g9w4

vs Pikachu : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmiiTWCfGUU

Great to hear from a Spanish Dedede! Nice play, you've got a good King. Those spikes against Falcon were crazy, I should use that edgeguard a more. Your opponents were conditioned to shield a lot - I would've liked to see more Inhale mixups to punish that. Also saw you going for the Dtilt reflect a lot - try Nair a little more, I find it to be both easier and hit Gordo back at a more threatening angle. But overall great job!

 

[axelalexzander]

Loser's Bracket Match (vrs. Sonic) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBWMvDDNG0I

Pool Match (vrs. Falco, Bowser Jr.) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdv2P9KnV2w

Looking for feedback on the videos above, any tips would be helpful. Fellow Dedede main here trying to get better.

The videos are from the first tourney I ever played in. It was 2 weeks ago (prior to recent balance patch). Managed to go 5-2 in pools, 1-2 in the bracket portion. Tied for 9th overall out of 40ish players which I was really happy with, didn't have any idea how I'd do going in. Played Dedede the whole way. Could definitely use some feedback on my matches, unfortunately only 2 of them were played on the stream setup we had going. Neither I feel I played that particularly well.

The Loser's Bracket match I felt I played OK but made plenty of mistakes. Sonic is a tough matchup for sure and he was combo-ing me like crazy most of the way. I made a few good reads, the one I'm most proud of is the powershield to dash attack punish I did to win game 2 (at 8:20 mark in video). However, I had a big issue with misclicks. I forward smashed several times when I was trying to Ftilt and I Upsmashed several times where I meant to Uptilt. I also made some terribly mistimed Dtilt attempts to reflect back gordos. Still have work to do on my tilts. You can see me react to several of my misclicks in the video (I'm the guy in the blue shirt).

Any tips on hitting uptilt and ftilt more reliably would be helpful. I'm using a pro controller here with default controls, except for setting left trigger to shield. I've tried setting my right stick to tilts, wasn't a fan. Tried out a gamecube controller, hated it. I might just need more practice. One huge change just a couple days ago was to turn tap jump OFF. It has helped make performing my uptilts easier, that's for sure.

The pool match I played the best player in my area. He's a stud, didn't lose a match the whole day and ended up winning the whole thing. He's a Diddy/G&W main but was messing around with different characters in the pools since he was clobbering everyone. Falco I know very little about, so I was sort of clueless. This honestly was probably the first good falco I'd ever played. Against Bowser Jr. I felt I should have been shielding a lot more. Other than that, don't know what to think about that matchup.

 

[shrooby]

@ axelalexzander I merged your thread with this one.
Wanting feedback from your own community is awesome, but in the future don't dedicate an entire thread to posting your matches and asking for feedback. Just post 'em here.

 

[Jatayu]

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D...did they just call Dedede the worst heavy?

Anyway, it's best to use fastfalling nair instead of dair. Dair is mostly an edgeguarding tool for those predictable recoveries and at lower percents, ff nair > uptilt is a combo. When throwing, both dthrow > fair and dthrow > uair can be escaped after 80% so it's best to do side throws to whatever edge you're closer to. When you fought against falco (or really everyone who tries to get up in your face), ftilt would have definitely helped. Dedede likes his opponents midrange.