Official The 20XX Melee Training Hack Pack (v5.0.2 - 1/20/2023)

[Nakamaru]

I appreciate the feedback and sorry you had a bad experience with it. I'm sure you have read my post in response to Beanwolf last page, and other than that, I don't really have much else to say on this topic at the moment. I really can't imagine adding a handful of lines of code for the processor to run through would create more lag than using a "lagless" HD monitor, but I don't have any figures to back that statement up. It is certainly an important subject though and will need to be monitored in the future. Don't hesitate to post more comments as you continue to use the pack.

So at the latest MOAL we used your 20XX pack again, and this time it was flawless. What me and beanwolf have deduced might have been the problem is the Dual 1v1 setting. We don't have any real evidence of this because we turned everything off, but that was something I'd never seen in the pack before.

The only thing that really throws me for a loop anymore is D-pad up doesn't toggle rumble anymore. T_T

 

[タオー]

So I'm trying this out, (amazing hack, thank you so much Achilles) and I'm wondering if there's a way to make a frame perfect CPU that I can spar against? I'm a nub when it comes to this TAS stuff, but it's pretty dope

Just wondering where I should bring this inquiry? Not exactly sure if this is the thread to be asking about this, but I figured if there were tools in the debug menu that could help with making this a reality. If not, someone mind directing me somewhere I can figure this out?

 

[Zeallyx]

Not within the 20XX pack. This would be a good feature to eventually put in there. You could use a Gecko code for a specific name tag slot to get lowercase, load it on Wii/Dolphin, and the name tag will save onto your memory card for future uses.

Name Tag Hack Excel Spreadsheet Guide - Kou

I see, thank you! Yeah, it would be cool to see the option of using lower case characters for names in later releases =)

And thanks for the info, I really appreciate it. Keep up the good work man.

 

[iffy525]

Just wondering where I should bring this inquiry? Not exactly sure if this is the thread to be asking about this, but I figured if there were tools in the debug menu that could help with making this a reality. If not, someone mind directing me somewhere I can figure this out?

You talking smart AI? It's not gonna happen

 

[BigWenz]

where is the toggle for turning flashing red for missing cancels. I just downloaded the latest version but I do not see it in the debug menu

 

[Achilles1515]

where is the toggle for turning flashing red for missing cancels. I just downloaded the latest version but I do not see it in the debug menu

FLASH NO L

Turn it to 2 and it will be on.

 

[Achilles1515]

Just wondering where I should bring this inquiry? Not exactly sure if this is the thread to be asking about this, but I figured if there were tools in the debug menu that could help with making this a reality. If not, someone mind directing me somewhere I can figure this out?

You talking smart AI? It's not gonna happen

It will happen. Eventually.

I think about it all the time. I obviously know how to force players to do actions, so it is just a matter of turning on actions in specific situations. Making them REALLY good, though, will be REALLY difficult and time consuming....but I'm confident I can make it happen. Just not soon.

 

[BigWenz]

FLASH NO L

Turn it to 2 and it will be on.

I dont seem to have that as a category in the debug menu

 

[Achilles1515]

I dont seem to have that as a category in the debug menu

Debug Menu --> Results Test

If it's not there, remake your ISO because you don't have the 20XX DOL file.

 

[BigWenz]

Debug Menu --> Results Test

If it's not there, remake your ISO because you don't have the 20XX DOL file.

found it thanks

 

[Super]

I've noticed theytech the Fox shine a lot if they fall from it. Is there a way to stop this or decrease it's frequency? Also is there a lightshield option?

 

[hectohertz]

@ Achilles1515 we just had neutral start drama at zenith. it occurs to me one of the most important and simple tweaks can still be done, and would be super useful for tournaments. if there are only 2 players, the spawn points are the neutral start positions. the neutral start list is here:

http://www.apex-series.com/rules/melee/

 

[OninO]

@ Achilles1515 we just had neutral start drama at zenith. it occurs to me one of the most important and simple tweaks can still be done, and would be super useful for tournaments. if there are only 2 players, the spawn points are the neutral start positions. the neutral start list is here:

http://www.apex-series.com/rules/melee/

Even better, could you modify the co-ordinates of the start positions so that they're in objectively neutral positions for any combination of ports for 2 players?

 

[hectohertz]

Even better, could you modify the co-ordinates of the start positions so that they're in objectively neutral positions for any combination of ports for 2 players?

that's what i was saying :D

 

[Achilles1515]

Randomly worked on name tag stuff tonight.
@ Zeallyx @LydianAlchemist @CeLL

20XX 2.07-2.dol
UPDATED 8/6/14 with bug fix

Changes since 2.07:
- L+R+D-Pad RIght in Training Mode Only toggles P2 [Marth] Spam Special F-Smash.

- While creating a name tag, hold Z button while selecting an alphabet letter to make it lowercase.

- The following symbols have been added to the English Alphabet page:

# ..........number sign/hash
| ............ bar
_ ......... underscore​

 

[Heckran]

Is everyone experiencing this problem?

Now that you mention it, there has been something wrong with the "." for me.

Spoiler

Note: I'm still using 2.07; I'll try the newest version tomorrow.

 

[Cyjorg]

Even better, could you modify the co-ordinates of the start positions so that they're in objectively neutral positions for any combination of ports for 2 players?

I'm working on this right now actually. Should be done soon.

 

[BrTarolg]

Hi i noticed a problem with the "colours", a bug perhaps

If you try to do a uthrow chaingrab on fox with marth, fox will be able to shine him out even whilst in the "teal" state, which is supposed to be hitstun.
The colours seem not to be able to recognise the difference between being in complete hitstun, and being in a "tumbling" state where you can jump out/action. However it seems soemtimes it DOES go back to green if you wait long enough so i'm not 100% sure on this

 

[Achilles1515]

Hi i noticed a problem with the "colours", a bug perhaps

If you try to do a uthrow chaingrab on fox with marth, fox will be able to shine him out even whilst in the "teal" state, which is supposed to be hitstun.
The colours seem not to be able to recognise the difference between being in complete hitstun, and being in a "tumbling" state where you can jump out/action. However it seems soemtimes it DOES go back to green if you wait long enough so i'm not 100% sure on this

You're right. I noticed this awhile back. I haven't seen it with other attacks, but with Marth's up throw, the "hitstun counter" doesn't reflect the time until being able to input an action. Not sure why it functions differently for that action.

 

[XxGUNZxX]

I just wanted to point out a small bug. When both players die at the same time, they will come back on the same color platform regardless of their number of stocks differ. It's nothing big though. Endless mode freezing is way worse. In fact, we don't even use it anymore because of how often it freezes.

 

[Achilles1515]

I just wanted to point out a small bug. When both players die at the same time, they will come back on the same color platform regardless of their number of stocks differ. It's nothing big though. Endless mode freezing is way worse. In fact, we don't even use it anymore because of how often it freezes.

Yep...the black screen bug pretty much ruins endless friendlies, unfortunately. I still haven't found a fix for it, and may not be able to without a USB Gecko or something. I may look into a workaround which would load the CSS after a match, like normal, but immediately force load the stage select screen which would cause the next game to load. It's not ideal, but I presume it would "fix" this bug and you would still get into the next match without the touch of any buttons.

With the way I have the platform color code written, this problem cannot be fixed. I may be able to change the injection point and fix it but idk.

 

[CAVEC]

I saw a couple of videos/streams using some version of the mod wherein they could pause frame by frame with frame data at the top of the screen, does this have to do with DBLEVEL?

 

[Achilles1515]

I saw a couple of videos/streams using some version of the mod wherein they could pause frame by frame with frame data at the top of the screen, does this have to do with DBLEVEL?

Yes. change Dblevel to Develop.

And then Y+D-Pad Down brings up frame/action state data.
Pressing start pauses the game and then you can advance frame by frame with Z.

 

[Tee ay eye]

I could eventually. I'll make sure to put it in the memcard hack for you guys.

If you want to permanently take it off, open the DOL file in a hex editor and at line
0x1330F0 change 4BECCFD4 to 94650008.

I just tried salty on Dolphin and it seemed to work as normal. I'll test on Wii when I get the chance. What's specifically happening for you? Is it completely ignoring A+B or freezing or something else? Can someone who has a setup handy test the salty runback plz

It just ignores the A+B for me

I have not tried 2.07-2 yet. I will report back once I have.

 

[Stride]

I have some requests for features, if they're possible to implement:
• Add an in-game toggle for up smash out of shield (I want to practice causing the invisible ceiling glitch).
• Add an in-game toggle for player 1 to display player 2's hitboxes (mostly to look at the CPU's hitboxes when they're using the action spam).
• Add an in-game toggle for making the player 2 CPU hold crouch (to practice crouch-cancel related things).
• Allow alternate characters (Sheik, SoPo, ect.) to be toggled on the character select screen for CPUs instead of just for humans. I know that you can toggle them as a human and then just change the port back into a CPU but that requires a controller and is more awkward.
• Make frame advance during pause usable without having to switch to develop mode (mostly because the develop mode ingame codes conflict with the hack pack's codes).

 

[Fishaman P]

In 2.07 (not the later patches with Marth F-Smash mods), the period has that same jank for me. I don't remember the space being glitched though.

 

[Elen]

I'm seeing that CFG struggles with SDHC cards. Is this confirmed? I only have an 8GB SDHC atm.

I'm running that exact setup just fine. The only struggle I've had with my 8GB SDHC is trying to boot PM using an Ocarina Hook. That seems to have the old limitation of standard 2GB or less SD cards only. As far as just booting 20XX or Melee from the 8GB SDHC you shouldn't have any problems.

If you do, Dios Mios is always an option as well!

 

[Mutekisenko]

I created new ISO with 20xx 2.07 and now after every match, it Congratulates me on completing 1-P Adventure mode for the first time... Did I do something wrong?

 

[BrTarolg]

You're right. I noticed this awhile back. I haven't seen it with other attacks, but with Marth's up throw, the "hitstun counter" doesn't reflect the time until being able to input an action. Not sure why it functions differently for that action.

Cool

Btw it applies on uthrow with fox too, marth can down+b (counter) before the teal colour is done

 

[Doomolish]

Hit B until you get back to the start screen. Then press start and it will be fixed.

Thanks!

 

[Achilles1515]

I created new ISO with 20xx 2.07 and now after every match, it Congratulates me on completing 1-P Adventure mode for the first time... Did I do something wrong?

Yes. Most likely. Do you see other aspects of the pack? The 20XX logo on CSS or debug menu?
Make sure you used a 1.02 ISO and try downloading the 20XX 2.07-2.dol and replace your current one with it.

Cool

Btw it applies on uthrow with fox too, marth can down+b (counter) before the teal colour is done

Thanks for letting me know this. So maybe it's only u-throws?

 

[Itaru]

Oh,sorry,
I want to make TASes with my masterganon.

dropbox.com/s/zj6klhkaquzw5p9/MASTERGANON%20PlGn%2002.dat

(I don't have 10 posts)

But masterganon's effect is very heavy. So,frame skip occur automatically.I would like to repeal this function.
I think that this problem has a cause in a dol file.
But I can't understand about dol file well.
Please help me...

reference:masterganon video

youtu.be/j4lAgp40Q1g

This file is for v1.02

 

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Having issues with the Version Patcher, it's not extracting the Binary File. If you're curious my OS is Windows 7. Any help would be great.

 

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Oh wow it suddenly worked after multiple attempts of not working. How odd. Thanks anyway

 

[vZakat]

OMG Bl00dyBizkitz is on smashboards? And I thought I couldn't like you anymore lol.

 

[MrFluffaWuffakin]

I'am getting a problem when I'm using the GCRebuilder to root the root file, it says:

Error:
File C\Users\Myname\Desktop\root\GMRegendAdventureDonkey.thp' not found

I looked at the replacement file to see if i maybe didn't copy the adventuredonkey (whatever the hell that is) but it wasn't there. Then I looked at the Root folder to see if it was in there and it also wasn't.

Maybe I did something totally stupid but please help me get this awesome thing!!!! Thanks!

 

[Achilles1515]

reference:masterganon video

youtu.be/j4lAgp40Q1g

This file is for v1.02

Wow. This is ridiculously cool. Does the game framerate drop when playing on a Wii as well? I really have no idea how you would fix that problem, though, and if it's even possible.

These graphic effects are insane. How do you add item effects onto character moves? Can you add a bombomb explosion to a sweetspotted Falcon knee???

 

[Achilles1515]

I'am getting a problem when I'm using the GCRebuilder to root the root file, it says:

Error:
File C\Users\Myname\Desktop\root\GMRegendAdventureDonkey.thp' not found

I looked at the replacement file to see if i maybe didn't copy the adventuredonkey (whatever the hell that is) but it wasn't there. Then I looked at the Root folder to see if it was in there and it also wasn't.

Maybe I did something totally stupid but please help me get this awesome thing!!!! Thanks!

I would just delete your root folder and start the whole process over again. There are no file replacements in 20XX for that Donkey Kong file, so I have no idea what happened to it.

If the problem persists after retrying, open the vanilla 1.02 ISO in GCR and extract that sole Donkey Kong file. Then place it in your root folder that has it missing and see if it rebuilds.

 

[Trichael Man]

Is there any way to force 20xx to automatically turn FLASH NO L to 2 without going into Debug Menu?

 

[Tee ay eye]

i installed 2.07-2 and my salty runback still doesn't work

anyone else having this problem?