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[#HBC | Ryker]

Now here's the kicker. Where did I complain about you taking off that vote? The only thing that could remotely be construed as having an issue with you taking off the vote was my #179, but that was made after you first brought it up. Why are you so adamant to not have to own that unvote that you started off leaping at the slightest provocation?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

And, ironically, that leap was made while accusing me of leaping to conclusions.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

For the record, I have a problem to your own reaction to your unvote. The problem you perceived I had with it. I don't give a damn about you unvoting Joker.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

okay i'm here

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

his point is that you're adding a lot of qualifiers to your vote. It makes it sound like you're trying too hard to justify advocating a lynch on somebody, just in case anyone decides to take you seriously. It's like you're tiptoeing around your RVS vote, which is odd behavior.

there's absolutely no reason to believe that vote lmao

"imo tbh=scum" ramses pls

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Ryker - Tell me about Joey's voting patterns from the past page, what do you make of them?

Laundry - Same thing I asked Ryker.

i'm still wrapping my head around why joker and joey are even going at it as they are. ramses is clearly trolling at best (imo tbh) and they're both launching into theoretical debates about qualifiers and ****. for saying "in my opinion". wtf

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

TL;DR FOR SKIMMERS

Maven unvotes Joker.

Ryker says Maven can die on Joker scumflip. Unstated in thread, but the reasoning was that if Joker flipped town, then Ryker would want someone actually on the wagon in all probability.

Maven assumes Ryker wants to lynch Maven based on Joker unvote and makes a stink about it.

Ryker has a problem with the inability to fathom taking responsibility for his actions.

Maven says that he doesn't think Ryker's actions make him scum, but that he will leave the vote, absolving him of further responsibility should a lynch occur.

Ryker takes issue.

Maven dodges new subject claims Ryker is twisting words.

Ryker brings up leap in Maven's logic.




Maven can go first, imo. Joker can stay my number two.

Vote Maven

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

ebwop: that has nothing to do with his voting pattern but there's nothing significant about voting pattern.
"i don't want you to change"
vs
"i'm going to ruin your meta"

neither of these read significant

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Oh My GoD rYkEr ThE oMgUs!!!1

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

ebwop the sequel: all of this is bull**** and i dont care, skimming it until something relevant shows up

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

unvote

vote ruy

what are you doing this game

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I believe Gorf is lying about having a posting restriction.

he already broke it so you know he doesn't have one.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Wagons are useless because there are scum on them. K.

"voting patterns are more important this game"

@ ~ Gheb ~ how do you get voting patterns again?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Maven left. Alex is in a time machine. I'm bored.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Oh, it's Gus. Hi Gus. Vote Maven for me.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Vote: Ryker

yeah bull****, you telling me you can't imagine the possibility of "hey maybe i don't want to lynch at random"?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

actually that doesn't make him scum at all just wrong

but with nothing else i'll keep my vote

PFFFFFFFFFFFT

vote: Maven

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

RVS. It has random right in the title.

Your vote's on you because I don't think you're pushing for Joker and are already, just out of RVS, saying things like "Maven and Joker aligned". Either you think you think you're psychic or you're making things out of thin air. I don't think these make you scummy per say but I don't like them, don't think your supposed super-confident approach is smart so early in the game, and don't like that you're already actually trying to get Joker lynched for no reason. Vote stays

"I don't think you're scummy, just wrong"
"Nah you're scummy"

make your mind up kid

 

[Maven89]

TL;DR FOR SKIMMERS

Maven unvotes Joker.

Ryker says Maven can die on Joker scumflip. Unstated in thread, but the reasoning was that if Joker flipped town, then Ryker would want someone actually on the wagon in all probability.

....I can die if Joker flipped scum, but the reasons was that if Joker flipped town then scum would be on his lynch? That makes no sense. How can you imagine someone understands that

Maven assumes Ryker wants to lynch Maven based on Joker unvote and makes a stink about it.

I unvote Joker. You then immediately say

If Joker is scum, then Maven can die.

And you're trying to pretend it's ridiculous that I thought your post was related to mine? How else does that make sense?

IRyker has a problem with the inability to fathom taking responsibility for his actions.

Maven says that he doesn't think Ryker's actions make him scum, but that he will leave the vote, absolving him of further responsibility should a lynch occur.

No, that'd make me even more responsible should a lynch occur

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

you have these things that you want to call him scum for but you won't actually call him scum. i can see the intention to point him out as scum but you won't go ballsdeep and do it.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Vote Ryker

Are your reads bad because you can't read perceived weaker players or because you're scum?

don't think you're getting ignored here.

what an aggressive an odd vote.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Take that out of the giant quote and I'll respond.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

congrats drew

you found a second voldemort.

let's lynch him.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I want to know what's up with Kaaaaaaaaantrip.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Now here's the kicker. Where did I complain about you taking off that vote? The only thing that could remotely be construed as having an issue with you taking off the vote was my #179, but that was made after you first brought it up. Why are you so adamant to not have to own that unvote that you started off leaping at the slightest provocation?

though i have to say i'm way more concerned about how he's phrasing this entire argument with you as "you're not scummy" but his vote still stays on you and he still keeps acting like you're scum.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

@Maven Laundry agreed with all of my points. Are we both scum?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Maven, you got boring. I'm gonna go play Tales of Graces.

Leave me something, Gus!

 

[Maven89]

TL;DR FOR SKIMMERSMaven unvotes Joker.

Ryker says Maven can die on Joker scumflip. Unstated in thread, but the reasoning was that if Joker flipped town, then Ryker would want someone actually on the wagon in all probability.

....I can die if Joker flipped scum, but the reasons was that if Joker flipped town then scum would be on his lynch? That makes no sense. How can you imagine someone understands that

Maven assumes Ryker wants to lynch Maven based on Joker unvote and makes a stink about it..

I unvote Joker. You then immediately say

If Joker is scum, then Maven can die.

And you're trying to pretend it's ridiculous that I thought your post was related to mine? How else does that make sense?

Maven says that he doesn't think Ryker's actions make him scum, but that he will leave the vote, absolving him of further responsibility should a lynch occur.

No, that'd make me even more responsible should a lynch occur

I don't see how you can sit there and pretend it's crazy that I thought your post was a response to my post . I unvote Joker, you immediately say "if joker is scum kill Maven", I respond, and you're sitting there going " Hmmmm why does he think my post about him is related to his post?". I mean really?

Laundry you're smarter then that I'll respond to you in a second

 

[Maven89]

PFFFFFFFFFFFT

vote: Maven

"I don't think you're scummy, just wrong"
"Nah you're scummy"

make your mind up kid

How can you pretend to come to that conclusion when you already quoted my post above? There's not enough so early (originally) for me to say that Ryker's push meant he was scum. But there was nothing else to vote on of any value. So I kept my vote.

And Ryker, I don't know if you're scum or not. You might just be terrible with a giant inflated ego. But with how ridiculous your push against me has been I'm leaning with scum. Laundry I'm going to need to see more of his posts to tell

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Maven. I think you are scum. I think you are scum, regardless of Joker's flip (evidenced by my voting you now that you've overtaken him). However, at the onset, should I have gotten a Joker town flip and you were not on the wagon, then I would, in all likelihood, have someone I figured was more likely to flip scum that I could chase.

However, throughout this entire affair, you have been so doggedly avoiding any responsibility for your actions. I don't care that you voted him in RVS, you stated no read on Joker (you still have not and I gave you ample time) despite him being a lynch that has been brought up in thread when you unvoted him. You didn't try to get further involved. Your only course of action was some noncommital commentary on Joey and to distance yourself from anything serious by unvoting Joker. "Oh no, RVS is over, better make sure I'm sitting on my thumbs."

Don't give me that horse**** about you being more responsible. It's way to easy to fake not seeing a lynch coming and being blindsided, especially when your vote is already stated not made with the intent to lynch. Don't vote whoever you aren't willing to lynch and don't be a weenie about who you're willing to lynch.

You're smarter than this.

Come the **** at me if you think you've hit pay dirt, but I think you'll probably just beg off if this lynch doesn't take.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

And Ryker, I don't know if you're scum or not. You might just be terrible with a giant inflated ego. But with how ridiculous your push against me has been I'm leaning with scum. Laundry I'm going to need to see more of his posts to tell

Hey look! A back door and ad hominem.

Make a stand, hombre. Or not. It's easier to steamroll someone on their back.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Also a rain check on a Laundry read. I see you, I see you.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

How can you pretend to come to that conclusion when you already quoted my post above? There's not enough so early (originally) for me to say that Ryker's push meant he was scum. But there was nothing else to vote on of any value. So I kept my vote.

And Ryker, I don't know if you're scum or not. You might just be terrible with a giant inflated ego. But with how ridiculous your push against me has been I'm leaning with scum. Laundry I'm going to need to see more of his posts to tell

so why do you keep justifying it's presence there. you made an entire follow-up post saying "this behavior is questionable" and yet came to the conclusion that he is wrong but not scummy. that vote's fruitless as **** and yet you insist it's okay to keep it there.

and oh hey you came to the conclusion that he's scummy. oh, how convenient!

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

You don't know if I'm scum. You don't know if Laundry is scum. You think I should leave you alone because my argument is ridiculous. What should I be doing?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

and, yeh, it doesn't explain how you backed off the joker wagon when a legitimate one was forming, claiming everything under rvs, and then completely distancing from joker. you say "i'm smarter than this" but i honestly expect better from you. this is **** i was pulling 3 years ago.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

im trying to read this game but im not absorbing any of the information
uguu
who vote?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Leave it on Maven until you catch up later.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

what if i agree with maven just to cause a ruckus creating an infinitely productive day 1?

Spoiler

ok jk
Vote: Maven

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Holy ****

Vote: Maven

The flailing over nothing is real.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I think we should lynch Laundry toDay.