Super Smash Bros (N64) Tournament Fundraiser on Jan. 11th in Chicago,IL ($250+ in prizes guaranteed)

[Events2Compete]

Events2Compete will be hosting a Super Smash Bros (N64) tournament fundraiser on Saturday January 11th at Ignite Gaming Lounge in downtown Chicago from 3-8 pm. Part of the proceeds will be used to raise funds for a start-up web company, to cover venue costs, and to pay staff. All ages are welcome. We will be holding a 1v1, 2v2, and four player free for all tournaments. Outside food and drinks are not allowed. Let us know if you will be attending and if you are bringing friends as well. Controllers will be provided but you may choose to bring your own. Check us out on facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/events/254891781336333/

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Tournament Info:​

Date: January 11th, 2014​

Time: 3:00pm - 8:00pm​

Location: Ignite Gaming Lounge (3341 N Elston Ave Chicago, IL 60618)​

1v1: $20 per person​

2v2: $35 per team​

Free For All: $20 per person (Only if there is enough time)​

Payout: $250+ guaranteed in prizes. The more participants we have confirmed, the more prizes we will be able to give out.​

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Schedule:​

2:30 pm - 3:00 pm: Friendlies, Setup, and Registration​

3:00 pm - 5:30 pm: 1v1 Tournament (No Registration Past 3:30pm)​

5:30 pm - 7:00 pm: 2v2 Tournament (No Registration Past 5:50pm)​

7:00 pm - 8:00 pm: 4 Player FFA Tournament (No Registration Past 7:15pm)​

*Times are approximated and are subject to change.​

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Game Settings:​

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-Mode: STOCK​

-Stocks: 4​

-Handicap: OFF​

-Team Attack: ON​

-Stage Select: ON​

-Damage: 100%​

-Item Switch: NONE​

-All Characters Available.​

-All sets are best-of-3 except for the Semis and Finals which are best of 5.​

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Tournament Rules (Rules Changed):​

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-The 1v1 and 2v2 tournaments will be double elimination so every player or team is guaranteed 2 series or a minimum of 4 games.​

-Seeding for the tournament will be done randomly from the beginning.​

-If you face the same opponent or team twice or more in a tournament, the results of the previous series will not be used for that series and both players or teams will enter that series 0-0 and will play for best of 3 or 5.​

-If time permits us to hold a Free For All tournament, each match will have a 3 minute time limit with 4 players competing. Dream Land will be used for every match and players will blind pick their characters. After the first match, the player with the lowest score (kills - deaths) will be eliminated. Another match will be played with the top 3 players and 3 minute time limit. The player with the lowest score will then be eliminated and the top 2 players will advance to the next round. In the event of a tie for last place, the player with the most kills will advance. If that also results in a tie, a 1 on 1 match-up will then be played with 1 stock and blind picks called on Dream Land to determine who will advance. Once you are eliminated, you are out of the tournament.​

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Stages:​

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-The Stage List consists of Congo Jungle, Peach’s Castle, Dream Land and Hyrule Castle.​

-The first match will be Dream Land unless agreed upon by both parties.​

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Characters:​

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-All characters are allowed.​

-For visibility reasons, players may request that Black DK (Right-C), Dark Samus (Down-C) and Dark Falcon (Right-C) not be used if Congo Jungle or Sector Z is the stage. The opposing player may reset the match without penalty if they wish for a color change. Taking or dealing any damage nullifies this right.​

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Set Procedure:​

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-Players select characters for first match. Double Blind Picks may be called.​

-The loser of the previous match selects the next match’s stage from the allowed stages.​

-The winner of the previous match selects their character.​

-The loser of the previous match selects their character.​

-Steps are repeated until the set is over.​

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Additional Rules:​

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-Any stage may be played on if both players agree to it.​

-Alternate controllers will be tested prior to the match to prevent unfair advantages.​

-All series except for the semis and finals have a 20 minute time limit for the sake of keeping the tournament on time. The team or player winning when the time has expired will be awarded the win.​

-If a player pauses during any set without prior agreement from the other opponent(s), a warning will be issued the first time. On the second offense, the opponent(s) have the right to take a stock away from the pauser's stock from the moment of the pause and begin a rematch where all players’ percentages are reset to zero, or the opponent(s) have the option to simply force the pauser to forfeit a stock without restarting the match.​

-Extreme stalling will not allowed. Any case of such will result in a warning for first offense, followed by automatic forfeit of the match for repeat offenders per the discretion of the administrator. If there is no movement from either player, the losing player is considered to be stalling. Running away momentarily is acceptable, but avoiding your opponent for an extended period of time or the remainder of the match will be considered stalling.​

-If the N64 freezes or turns off anytime during the match, the player winning at the time can choose to restart the match or continue the match with the same amount of stock at the time of disruption with percentages reset to 0.​

-Cheating in any form or intentionally sabotaging the game by resetting the game, yanking the controller to freeze the game or hitting the N64 will result in an automatic disqualification from the tournament.​

 

[Cobrevolution]

some of these rules are amazing.

 

[Han Solo]

Tell me you got CRTs instead of LCDs.

 

[KeroKeroppi]

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Set Procedure:​

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-Players select characters for first match. Double Blind Picks may be called.​

-The winner of the previous match selects their character.​

-The loser of the previous match selects their character.​

-The loser of the previous match selects the next match’s stage from the allowed stages.​

-Steps are repeated until the set is over.​

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These are some fun rules. However, this procedure really hurts the person who won the first round. You should consider the traditional procedure where loser picks stage and then the winner picks character.

The loser of the first game still has an advantage going into the second game, but it doesn't seriously hurt the winner of the first game.

 

[Events2Compete]

Tell me you got CRTs instead of LCDs.

The venue only has LCD's but it's my understanding that if we change the resolution on the tv, the overall quality will improve.

some of these rules are amazing.

Thank you

These are some fun rules. However, this procedure really hurts the person who won the first round. You should consider the traditional procedure where loser picks stage and then the winner picks character.

The loser of the first game still has an advantage going into the second game, but it doesn't seriously hurt the winner of the first game.

I see your point but I think it's hard to manage it that way considering the players pick the map after choosing characters. Also, consider that if the winners of the first match end up losing the second match due to the disadvantage, they will be able to pick characters second and pick the map for the third match which will give them the advantage and balance out in the end.

 

[KnitePhox]

ill bring as many "old" aka "fat" aka "tube" aka CRT TV's as i can, they have no lag whereas ALL LCD's LAG HORRIBLY and it's VERY easy to notice side by side

 

[Fireblaster]

I see your point but I think it's hard to manage it that way considering the players pick the map after choosing characters.

Well just have the player simply say the stage DUH

"Yo I want to play on kongo". Then the winner picks character and the loser picks character. That's not so hard.

they will be able to pick characters second and pick the map for the third match which will give them the advantage and balance out in the end.

Sorry but that's the same bull**** reasoning people used to allow hyrule as a counterpick stage. "Just accept the loss on hyrule in the 2nd game and win the 3rd game in the counterpick". The counterpick isn't meant to be an automatic loss for the winner. What if the better player got unlucky and lost the first game? Then he wins the counterpick but loses when he's counterpicked again in the 3rd game due to counterpicking giving a ridiculous advantage in this ruleset.

Stage being picked first is simply the best and there is no good reason for doing otherwise.

 

[Cobrevolution]

please stream this, i have a feeling it will be one of the funniest tourneys ever run

especially if the ILLINOIZE gang goes and komo rages again because solo pulled out the most ******** counterpick in the world or something

 

[bloodpeach]

Someone please play m2k style kirby to take advantage of this amazing ruleset. good luck timing through those utilts on lcd <3

 

[Annex]

Then suddenly Illinois does things. I'll bring a CRT or two.

Also,

four player free for all tournaments

^ this does not exist

 

[Cobrevolution]

i ****ing wreck **** in ffa with items on

one of my crowning moments in smash history is dying as luigi, respawning, jumping off the second plat of hyrule just as all three of my friends got caught in a hyper tornado that sent them high up, and upb'd ALL of them at once.

 

[Han Solo]

ANOTHER tourney where Yobolight won't show up. I'm beginning to believe this money match of ours is never happening.

 

[Events2Compete]

Well just have the player simply say the stage DUH

"Yo I want to play on kongo". Then the winner picks character and the loser picks character. That's not so hard.




Sorry but that's the same bull**** reasoning people used to allow hyrule as a counterpick stage. "Just accept the loss on hyrule in the 2nd game and win the 3rd game in the counterpick". The counterpick isn't meant to be an automatic loss for the winner. What if the better player got unlucky and lost the first game? Then he wins the counterpick but loses when he's counterpicked again in the 3rd game due to counterpicking giving a ridiculous advantage in this ruleset.

Stage being picked first is simply the best and there is no good reason for doing otherwise.

Well i'd prefer to prevent any conflicts arising such as a team announcing one stage and then deciding to pick a different stage after seeing what the winning team chooses for the characters. It's much simpler just to have it done this way where the map is chosen after the characters are chosen. Plus I don't know why you think there is that big of an advantage for what maps are chosen. If a team or player is better than the other, it won't really matter where the map is played or who gets to choose which character first. Like I said, it evens out because if the player or team loses the second match after winning the first, they will have the same advantage for the third match. If the better player or team got unlucky and lost the first match, then maybe they weren't the better player or team to begin with. They should be happy to have two more chances to win the set. If you want the advantage, just don't lose the first match. By the way, are you going to attend the tournament or do you just want to see our rules changed?

ill bring as many "old" aka "fat" aka "tube" aka CRT TV's as i can, they have no lag whereas ALL LCD's LAG HORRIBLY and it's VERY easy to notice side by side

Thanks I will check with the venue if they have a place for us to use those tv's. Otherwise if not, it's my understanding that if we change the resolution on the LCD, it will improve the gameplay significantly. Have you ever tried that out before?

 

[KnitePhox]

ive tried out more things on more tv's than i care to mention, LAG never goes away

 

[Cobrevolution]

let me explain how this procedure normally works

me and stranded sit down to play a tourney match. he picks falcon. i pick samus.
the starter stage is dreamland.
we play on dreamland.
stranded wins.
i say, "we're going to play peach's castle"
stranded says, "ok" and picks his character (kirby)
i then pick my character (pikachu)
i select peach's castle.
we play peach's castle.

that is, the winner has the knowledge of what stage is going to be picked, so he can elect to switch his character anyway, so as not to get doubly counterpicked.

to hold up this example, imagine if it went something like this.

me and stranded sit down to play a tourney match. he picks falcon. i pick samus.
the starter stage is dreamland.
we play on dreamland.
stranded wins.
stranded picks his character (falcon)
i then pick my character (kirby, a direct counterpick to falcon)
i select peach's castle (a much worse map for falcon than dreamland)

which is to say, stranded suffers from being counterpicked on both the stage and the character, which is not fair.

 

[Fireblaster]

Well i'd prefer to prevent any conflicts arising such as a team announcing one stage and then deciding to pick a different stage after seeing what the winning team chooses for the characters. It's much simpler just to have it done this way where the map is chosen after the characters are chosen

What the ****, then those players that change the stage after characters are picked are breaking the rules and they have to reset the match to pick the stage they initially said or they get disqualified. It's ****ing simple man, this is how it's been done at every single smash tournament so far and it hasn't caused any problems.

Plus I don't know why you think there is that big of an advantage for what maps are chosen. If a team or player is better than the other, it won't really matter where the map is played or who gets to choose which character first.

Are you serious? If someone picks a character with an awful recovery like ness, fox, or falcon their opponent can just pick kirby and immediately go to peach's castle to **** them over real hard. It would be a double counterpick like cobre said. It basically means there's no real reason to pick character that can get countered hard like this because of this tremendous disadvantage. This make it become a lot less about skill and more about picking the safe characters (aka only pikachu and kirby).

Like I said, it evens out because if the player or team loses the second match after winning the first, they will have the same advantage for the third match. If the better player or team got unlucky and lost the first match, then maybe they weren't the better player or team to begin with. If you want the advantage, just don't lose the first match

So what you're saying is that whoever wins the first match has an insane advantage and the following two matches will just be consequential? Why even have best 2 out of 3 and not just make it a single game? You fail to understand that under NORMAL counterpicking rules, winning the first match still gives a big advantage, but nothing as huge as the ruleset you're going to use.

By the way, are you going to attend the tournament or do you just want to see our rules changed?

I'm not going because I live too far from it, but I'm trying to convince you to use a better ruleset for a competitive 1v1 setting in smash bros.

 

[Nintendude]

This is a week before Apex 2014, the largest North American SSB tournament to date. Use the Apex ruleset so that this tournament can serve as suitable practice for it, as a lot of people attending this are also attending Apex.

https://www.apex-series.com/rules/smash64/

 

[Han Solo]

Except make Hyrule legal.

 

[mixa]

 

[Events2Compete]

let me explain how this procedure normally works

me and stranded sit down to play a tourney match. he picks falcon. i pick samus.
the starter stage is dreamland.
we play on dreamland.
stranded wins.
i say, "we're going to play peach's castle"
stranded says, "ok" and picks his character (kirby)
i then pick my character (pikachu)
i select peach's castle.
we play peach's castle.

that is, the winner has the knowledge of what stage is going to be picked, so he can elect to switch his character anyway, so as not to get doubly counterpicked.

to hold up this example, imagine if it went something like this.

me and stranded sit down to play a tourney match. he picks falcon. i pick samus.
the starter stage is dreamland.
we play on dreamland.
stranded wins.
stranded picks his character (falcon)
i then pick my character (kirby, a direct counterpick to falcon)
i select peach's castle (a much worse map for falcon than dreamland)

which is to say, stranded suffers from being counterpicked on both the stage and the character, which is not fair.

What the ****, then those players that change the stage after characters are picked are breaking the rules and they have to reset the match to pick the stage they initially said or they get disqualified. It's ****ing simple man, this is how it's been done at every single smash tournament so far and it hasn't caused any problems.




Are you serious? If someone picks a character with an awful recovery like ness, fox, or falcon their opponent can just pick kirby and immediately go to peach's castle to **** them over real hard. It would be a double counterpick like cobre said. It basically means there's no real reason to pick character that can get countered hard like this because of this tremendous disadvantage. This make it become a lot less about skill and more about picking the safe characters (aka only pikachu and kirby).




So what you're saying is that whoever wins the first match has an insane advantage and the following two matches will just be consequential? Why even have best 2 out of 3 and not just make it a single game? You fail to understand that under NORMAL counterpicking rules, winning the first match still gives a big advantage, but nothing as huge as the ruleset you're going to use.




I'm not going because I live too far from it, but I'm trying to convince you to use a better ruleset for a competitive 1v1 setting in smash bros.

This is a week before Apex 2014, the largest North American SSB tournament to date. Use the Apex ruleset so that this tournament can serve as suitable practice for it, as a lot of people attending this are also attending Apex.

https://www.apex-series.com/rules/smash64/

I fully understand the procedure you guys are talking about. I wanted to make this tournament a bit different from the norm and offer some different rules. So far I have not heard any issues or requests to change the rules from people that will be attending, but before the tournament starts, i'll go over the rules and I will have a vote for this rule and see what the majority of people want. I think that's the most fair thing to do and we'll see what they decide on.

 

[Combo Blaze]

fine then

standard rules pls

 

[KnitePhox]

standard rules please

 

[Events2Compete]

fine then

standard rules pls

standard rules please

We'll have a vote there before we start the tournament.

 

[Annex]

I can guarantee you that if you're not allowing people to bring CRTs nobody on smashboards is going to come.

 

[Events2Compete]

I can guarantee you that if you're not allowing people to bring CRTs nobody on smashboards is going to come.

Well I never said people were not allowed to bring CRT's. I'm just waiting to hear back from the venue if that's ok with them and how we would manage doing that because we are given a section of the place for the tournament where they have 4 LCD's already hooked up. Once I hear back i'll let everyone know.

 

[LRJaves]

All I know is i'm in.
Can't wait!
Are we allowed to pick the same character again?

 

[Annex]

Well I never said people were not allowed to bring CRT's. I'm just waiting to hear back from the venue if that's ok with them and how we would manage doing that because we are given a section of the place for the tournament where they have 4 LCD's already hooked up. Once I hear back i'll let everyone know.

I know you didn't say it but I've heard from people who have been there before that they weren't allowed to bring CRT's in.

Also I assumed you were running this thing. Thanks for letting us all know whats going on

 

[Battlecow]

Yo everybody be nice to the man lol he's trying to run a tourney

I'll show up with my rusty ass, lol. This sounds really fun. I can only bring a CRT if someone gives me a ride though--I won't really be able to carry it with me on public transportation

My vote's for standard rules as well, of course.

Can we get some more info about the prize distribution/how much of the entry fee money goes towards the pot?

Thanks for doing this!

PS bout to camp it UP in free for all

PPS was no one going to tell me about this y'all suck

PPPS I don't think the facebook link works

PPPPS Ima chime in for CRT's being allowed as well, that's super duper critical and makes a difference of like 4 people attending at least

 

[LRJaves]

We'll have a vote there before we start the tournament.

It's just a 1 life difference lmao. Either or is good, you just get to have a little more fun with that extra life.
I just hope enough people join because I don't think 6 is gonna cut it.

 

[Battlecow]

It's just a 1 life difference lmao. Either or is good, you just get to have a little more fun with that extra life.
I just hope enough people join because I don't think 6 is gonna cut it.

I assume they have local peeps coming as well/they advertised it someplace other than smashboards.

I think komo and bloodpeach and their new friends will come if CRT's are confirmed

 

[Events2Compete]

All I know is i'm in.
Can't wait!
Are we allowed to pick the same character again?

Great hope to see you there. And yes you can pick the same character again.

I know you didn't say it but I've heard from people who have been there before that they weren't allowed to bring CRT's in.

Also I assumed you were running this thing. Thanks for letting us all know whats going on

I just got confirmation that we have permission to bring CRT's to the event. If you are going to bring a CRT please let me know.

Yo everybody be nice to the man lol he's trying to run a tourney

I'll show up with my rusty ***, lol. This sounds really fun. I can only bring a CRT if someone gives me a ride though--I won't really be able to carry it with me on public transportation

My vote's for standard rules as well, of course.

Can we get some more info about the prize distribution/how much of the entry fee money goes towards the pot?

Thanks for doing this!

PS bout to camp it UP in free for all

PPS was no one going to tell me about this y'all suck

PPPS I don't think the facebook link works

PPPPS Ima chime in for CRT's being allowed as well, that's super duper critical and makes a difference of like 4 people attending at least

Thank you and I hope to see you there. We just got permission to bring CRT's to the event. Here's the link to the facebook event page https://www.facebook.com/events/254891781336333/?notif_t=plan_user_joined so let me know if that doesn't work. It might not work if you're not logged in. As for the prize distribution, i'm planning on having 60% of the pot going back to prizes, and the remainder will go to covering expenses for venue, staff, and the fundraiser for a start-up web company.

It's just a 1 life difference lmao. Either or is good, you just get to have a little more fun with that extra life.
I just hope enough people join because I don't think 6 is gonna cut it.

As of now, there are at least 20 people confirmed, but we are expecting at least 30 to attend. We are advertising on several different websites.

 

[Han Solo]

Is there another link to the facebook event page? That link doesn't work for me.

 

[Events2Compete]

Is there another link to the facebook event page? That link doesn't work for me.

Try this link https://www.facebook.com/events/254891781336333/

 

[Han Solo]

That link just takes me to my own events page. Maybe the event is private and people need to be invited through facebook?

 

[Battlecow]

30 people? Fun fun fun fun!

aiight smashboards let's get our CRT jam goin on

I prolly can't bring mine cuz I'll be riding the metra there but if hyde park is on anyone's way (I don't see why it would be) I can prolly bring 2 or 3, just to let you guys know.

I'm having the same Facebook problem as han solo, I'm logged in and everything

Is the seeding going to be random/ is there any chance that we could give you some advice on how to seed smashboards people? With the small timeframe it's understandable if you're gonna random it but it might be a better tourney for everyone involved if we didn't put the killers in the same section of the bracket.

Thanks again

 

[Annex]

Yeah, make the first match Battlecow - Han Solo pls, for the good of all of us

I should be able to bring one CRT.

 

[Battlecow]

Yo seriously I want in on the FB event tho I gotta challenge noobs to moneymatch

 

[Events2Compete]

That link just takes me to my own events page. Maybe the event is private and people need to be invited through facebook?

Yo seriously I want in on the FB event tho I gotta challenge noobs to moneymatch

Try the link now it should be working. I have no idea what the issue was but if it's still not working, let me know.

30 people? Fun fun fun fun!

aiight smashboards let's get our CRT jam goin on

I prolly can't bring mine cuz I'll be riding the metra there but if hyde park is on anyone's way (I don't see why it would be) I can prolly bring 2 or 3, just to let you guys know.

I'm having the same Facebook problem as han solo, I'm logged in and everything

Is the seeding going to be random/ is there any chance that we could give you some advice on how to seed smashboards people? With the small timeframe it's understandable if you're gonna random it but it might be a better tourney for everyone involved if we didn't put the killers in the same section of the bracket.

Thanks again

The seeding will depend on how many players and teams show up, but most likely it will be random for the sake of time and to be fair to everyone. I will consider other options like ranking players by how many total lives they have leftover after the first two matches.

 

[Battlecow]

All right, I understand. Pity the fool who gets han in the first round of losers though.

Can we get some clarification on the way singles is going to work? Is it like two random matches and then a single elimination bracket seeded based on those? Is it a double elimination bracket? The rules for all three events are conflated in a sort of unclear way. Sorry to pester you with questions.

The stalling rules are really good, by the way. Props on those.

 

[Han Solo]

Is a washed-up never-was who hasn't touched the game in months implying that he's going to send me to loser's if we face each other round 1?

#NotEvenSerious #FakeHype #IhaveneverbeatenBattlecowInTourney