Sheik Ftilt into Ftilt, Ftilt into Fair and Ftilt into Usmash beginning combo percents

[Tristan_win]

Currently in the process of updating.

Testing was done on the Wii U in training mode so please keep that in mind. Generally speaking though this should only mean these combo's will work a bit sooner then what's listed so it's not exactly a bad thing, unless the ftilt is decayed then it be a little later then what's listed ^-^'

edit: Game and watch, Rob, Duck hunt Dog was done on the 3ds.

Extra info: Just showing how much rage effects Sheik ftilt compared to actually % on opponents. It barely does, with Sheik at 125% it's like increasing your opponents percentage by +10%

Spoiler

Sheik 0% 0 Mario
32
Sheik 40% 0 Mario
32
Sheik 50% 0 Mario
32
Sheik 60% 0 Mario
33
Sheik 80% 0 Mario
34
Sheik 100% 0 Mario
34
Sheik 125% 0 Mario
36
Sheik 150% 0 Mario
37
Sheik 200% 0 Mario
37

Sheik Ftilt on Mario non tipper but this time with mario damage increasing

Sheik 0% 0% Mario
32
Sheik 0_10% Mario
36
Sheik 0_20% Mario
40
Sheik 0_30% Mario
45
Sheik 0_40% Mario
49
Sheik 0_50% Mario
55
Sheik 0_60% Mario
59
Sheik 0_70% Mario
64
Sheik 0_80% Mario
68
Sheik 0_90% Mario
72
Sheik 0_100% Mario
77
Sheik 0_110% Mario
81
Sheik 0_120% Mario
86
Sheik 0_130% Mario
90
Sheik 0_140% Mario
95
Sheik 0_150% Mario
99

TL;DR:

• Sheik can combo Ftilt into Ftilt on everyone at 20% but on Boswer
• Sheik can combo Ftilt into Fair on everyone at 35% but on Boswer, fox, Greeninja, DK, Captain falcon, dedede.
• Sheik can combo Ftilt into Usmash on everyone at 45% but on Bowser, Ganondorft, Wario
• Sheik can combo Ftilt into Usmash up till 60% but on floaters like Luigi, Peach, Rosalina, Game and watch, Zelda, Toon Link, Greeninja, Kirby, Palutena, Jiggly, Pikachu, Ness, Wii Fit Trainer, Olimar

| Ftilt into Ftilt | Ftilt into short hop Fair | Ftilt into Usmash
Mario | 17% | 32% | 45-60
Luigi | 17% | 32% | 40-50
Peach | 17% | 31% | 40-50
Yoshi | 18% | 33% | 45-60
Bowser | 21% | 38% | 50-65
Rosalina | 15% | 29% | 35-50
Bowser Jr | 18% | 34% | 45-65
Wario | 18% | 34% | 50-70
Game and watch | 15% | 28% | 35-50
DK | 20% | 37% | 45-75
Diddy Kong | 17% | 34% | 40-71
Link | 18% | 33% | 45-65
Zelda | 16% | 30% | 40-50
Sheik | 15% | 30% | 45-60
Ganondorft | 19% | 35% | 50-65
Toon link | 17% | 31% | 40-50
Samus | 19% | 34% | 45-65
Zero suit Samus | 16% | 29% | 40-65
Dedede | 20% | 36% | 45-75
Lucario | 18% | 33% | 45-70
Greeninja | 17% | 37% | 45-55
Little mac | 16% | 29% | 40-65
meta knight | 16% | 29% | 40-60
Kirby | 15% | 29% | 45-50
Robin | 17% | 32% | 40-60
Ike | 18% | 34% | 45-65
Marth | 17% | 31% | 40-60
Palutena | 17% | 31% | 45-55
Pit | 17% | 32% | 40-60
ROB | 18% | 34% | 45-65
Duck Hunt Dog | 17% | 31% | 45-65
Jigglypuff | 14% | 27% | 40-45
Charizard |19% | 35% | 45-65
Pikachu | 15% | 29% | 45-55
Falco | 16% | 29% | 45-60
Fox | 15% | 37% | 45-60
Ness | 17% | 32% | 45-55
Captain Falcon | 18% | 36% | 45-70
Villager | 17% | 32% | 45-60
Olimar | 15% | 29% | 40-55
Wii Fit Trainer | 17% | 32% | 45-55
Shulk | 18% | 33% | 45-60
Pac Man | 17% | 32% | 45-60
Mega man | 18% | 33% | 45-70
Sonic | 17% | 32% | 40-60
Mewtwo |15% | 28% | 35-37
Lucus |17% |32% | 43-54
Roy |16% |32% | 54-62
Ryu |18% |33% | 52-60
Cloud |18% |33% | 40-47
Corrin |17% |32% | 40-55
Bayonetta |16% |30% |

 

[Jaxas]

Great, that's super helpful!
Was this tested with DI as well?

 

[Tristan_win]

Great, that's super helpful!
Was this tested with DI as well?

I didn't feel the need to test for DI but I could look into it for a few like fox, who with even no DI you wont be able to land this on him until 37%. This could mean Fox could DI down when he gets Ftilt and avoid the fair.... :3 but I'm not going to tell the Fox players if you don't

 

[New_Dumal]

Are you sure this FTilt string can't be broken by some characters attacks ?
I was playing against a Yoshi that broken my third Ftilt with his Nair... Sonic could say that I'm too slow in this?
Thanks about all info.

 

[Tristan_win]

Are you sure this FTilt string can't be broken by some characters attacks ?
I was playing against a Yoshi that broken my third Ftilt with his Nair... Sonic could say that I'm too slow in this?
Thanks about all info.

Unfortunately there's a lot of factors that could effect why Yoshi was able to hit you, maybe you were just too slow but it could also be because you used a Ftilt before these 3 ftilts or it could simply be the fact that 3 ftilts in a row is not safe on Yoshi starting at 18%. Due to decay 3 ftilts could very easily not be safe which is why my chart only has 2.

edit: Even that could be pushing it really but in the future I could do some VS mode indepth testing if I find someone willing to help me test beyond 2 ftilts in a row.

 

[Tristan_win]

Eww... double posting but I have a good reason.

It's a bit rough looking right now due to the lack of time I have but I added Ftilt into Usmash. These are all training mode % as well but with the help of @Virgman I have tested the DI of some of these and found the numbers to be deadly accurate in VS mode. Of course DI away does it make ALOT harder to land the dash into usmash but it's still technically possible. I should also say that landing a Ftilt tipper also make it harder to land these due to the extra distance Sheik will have to travel before usmash but it does still combo if they don't DI. DI up does not help them at all so they have to DI either away (safest) or toward Sheik (more or less making it easier for you.)

You will have to dash into usmash for all of these even if they don't DI.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Thank you for this!

*goes to kick people*

 

[WondrousMoose]

Would Fair to Usmash combo at any point?

Also, you didn't capitalize Meta Knight

 

[Tristan_win]

Would Fair to Usmash combo at any point?

Also, you didn't capitalize Meta Knight

Without a doubt it does but I don't know when ._.' also it would be really difficult to get constant results so I might never do it.

edit: Also meta knight doesn't deserve to have his name capitalize

 

[WondrousMoose]

I'll have to try that out. It would be an interesting twist to Fair strings. Also, I like your avatar update. Has a very stoic look to it.