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Mr Lange

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SERIOUSLY WHAT.
WHAT IS EVERYONE THINKING.
THIS IS THE ONE REQUEST I HAVE SEEN PERSISTED WITH EVERY PERSON AND THERE IS NEVER ANY LOGIC TO IT.
RIDLEY AS A CHARACTER DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.
It's one thing to wish he was in the game (which still makes no sense) but you all believe he will be a playable character??
LOOK AT HIM!

HE'S EASILY THREE TIMES LARGER THAN KING DEDEDE.
HE FLIES EFFORTLESSLY.
THERE'S A GOOD REASON HE WAS SPECIFICALLY A BOSS ROLE.
BECAUSE HE FITS BEST AS A BOSS.

He's obviously not playable for the same reasons Master Hand is not playable.
The dev team's heads would explode if they were asked to make him a compatible fighter.
He'd have to be drastically modified to fit and it would no longer be believable.
SERIOUSLY WHAT.
 

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Brace for impact...do you even know what you've done?
 

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lets see, king dedede is about twice the size of kirby, kirby is 8" (look at the character descriptions in smash bros 64), so D3 is about 2', yet in brawl he is the size of bowser

Edit: Olimar is also 3"

Now fly you fool
 

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10/10 thread, can't wait to see the army of Ridley supporters destroy it.
 

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dude, you just unleashed Walpurgis Night with this thread.

I suggest reversing course now before Kremlied Gretchen shows up and f***s all of us.
 

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Interesting...Don't mind me; just passing by.
#inb4threadlock
 

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wow, I think you just completely just broke all the rules, and nobody breaks all the rules.
 

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Is he SO big he's barely taller than Bowser, is that what you meant to say? :smirk:

And Olimar is too small to be in Brawl? :smirk:



Try harder next time.
 

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lets see, king dedede is about twice the size of kirby, kirby is 8" (look at the character descriptions in smash bros 64), so D3 is about 2', yet in brawl he is the size of bowser

Edit: Olimar is also 3"

Now fly you fool
Using NES sprites to argue actual size.
Ok we'll do this then.

 

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To quote Yoda, "SIZES MATTER NOT!!!" "Look at me! Judge me by my size, you do??? And where you should NOT!!!"

And to quote me, the holder of the Smash Wii U World Championship Belt, "RIDLEY IS TOO BIG NOT TO BE IN SMASH!!!"

Now n00b, please leave, and never return. Your presence is not needed
 

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Resizing would work just fine. Charizard, Bowser, and Olimar have all been resized to fit in Smash.
 

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I don't think I have never seen such a frothing desperation for a character to be in a game that every shred of logic and reasoning of an entire forum's userbase is thrown out with the kitchen sink towing a chain of brain matter.
Jesus Christ in heaven above maybe you can tell me what the **** is going on.
 

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I don't think I have never seen such a frothing desperation for a character to be in a game that every shred of logic and reasoning is thrown out with the kitchen sink towing a chain of brain matter.
Speak for yourself. What you've just said describes you and your OP quite perfectly. :smirk:
 

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I don't think I have never seen such a frothing desperation for a character to be in a game that every shred of logic and reasoning of an entire forum's userbase is thrown out with the kitchen sink towing a chain of brain matter.
Jesus Christ in heaven above maybe you can tell me what the **** is going on.
Alright bro enough is enough ( I posted this a couple months back but it applies here)

First off your argument makes no sense if we are talking about Smash. In Melee, Ridley was about 2-3 inches taller than Samus:

In Brawl's cutscene of Ridley:

This is Ridley's size during the fight:


Compare Ridley's head to Samus's body in the 2 last pictures. His size isn't even consistent in the same game!
 

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I don't think I have never seen such a frothing desperation for a character to be in a game that every shred of logic and reasoning of an entire forum's userbase is thrown out with the kitchen sink towing a chain of brain matter.
Jesus Christ in heaven above maybe you can tell me what the **** is going on.
we want to play a game as a purple space dragon. that's whats going on.
 

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[collapse="Bowser is a 100 foot tall plus monster"]
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[collapse="Olimar is approximately an inch or so tall at most"]
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To quote Yoda, "SIZES MATTER NOT!!!" "Look at me! Judge me by my size, you do??? And where you should NOT!!!"

And to quote me, the holder of the Smash Wii U World Championship Belt, "RIDLEY IS TOO BIG NOT TO BE IN SMASH!!!"

Now n00b, please leave, and never return. Your presence is not needed
Bowser's size changes are explained, more or less, as some form of magic abuse.
Actually Olimar is seen in Brawl as human sized, fighting macro themed foes. This makes more sense frankly, the scale can only be twofold.
 

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I don't think I have never seen such a frothing desperation for a character to be in a game that every shred of logic and reasoning of an entire forum's userbase is thrown out with the kitchen sink towing a chain of brain matter.
Jesus Christ in heaven above maybe you can tell me what the **** is going on.
Video game characters constant size=???

Bowser's has been 10 builds tall, but he's only about 8 feet tall in Smash.
Olimar is 1 inch tall, but he's at least 4 feet tall in Smash.
How is there any logic in using size arguments=???

Seriously, you're a full blown ******. GTFO, and go back to the GameFAQs whence you came!!!
 

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Bowser's size changes are explained, more or less, as some form of magic abuse.
Olimar is human sized on a macro themed planet. Or rather we don't know for sure.
Erm, no. That planet would be Earth. Olimar is incredibly tiny.
Although I have a feeling that you're trolling, so I'm not really gonna bother.
 

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I'm sorry dude, I fail to see your logic.

have a kit-kat bar and come back. maybe then your logic organ will work again.
 

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just bring this up again

lets see, king dedede is about twice the size of kirby, kirby is 8" (look at the character descriptions in smash bros 64), so D3 is about 2', yet in brawl he is the size of bowser
 

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Bowser's size changes are explained, more or less, as some form of magic abuse.
Olimar is human sized on a macro themed planet. Or rather we don't know for sure.
No, it's not magic, it's called inconsistency, and video games in fictional worlds with different rules. There's no magic in Super Mario Sunshine anyways, minus the shine sprites, which is not the reason Bowser was so big (because he was that big after he lost them).

Olimar is literally the size of an ant, and the planet he is on has been hinted at as being Earth.

And even if he's not, Jigglypuff and Kirby are both about 10 inches tall, and yet, they appear as at least 3 feet tall in smash.

Oh, and Squirtle weighs less than 10 pounds, and yet Bowser probably weighs 10 pounds.

Seriously dude, do they grow brains on your planet, or is your awful avatar keeping you stupid=???

Smash Bros. is based around fictional characters with ridiculous height and weight disproportions that have been modified in an area so they can fight. If you can't understand that, then you have serious mental issues, and you probably need help. People like you is why I didn't become a psychiatrist/psychologist.
 

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Erm, no. That planet would be Earth. Olimar is incredibly tiny.
Although I have a feeling that you're trolling, so I'm not really gonna bother.
No, I'm genuinely confused as to how the hell Ridley could be so persisted as a possible character.
The arguments to support it is like a thousand beams of splintered wood. Lots, and impressive to behold, but incapable of holding it up.
Believe me MY head will explode if he ends up being in the roster.
 

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DO YOU HAVE TO EMPHASIZE EVERY SINGLE POINT YOU MAKE

Seriously though lol it isn't that big of a deal, if Sakurai really wanted Ridley in as playable, then he'd find a way to put him in, simple as that. Even provided the technical limitations (which is debatable obviously but I won't go into that), I'm sure he'd make the necessary compromises and do whatever it takes to get him into the game as a playable character if again, he really wanted him in

Also, what exactly about Ridley being requested as a playable character is different from virtually any other character being requested as playable, or illogical? He has the ability to have a moveset made for him, as he has arms, legs and special abilities just like any other character, and he's the most recognized and important character outside of Samus herself. Don't see how any of that doesn't make sense

Yeah, he fits as a boss, though who says that he can only be a boss? Just because a character fits one role doesn't mean that they're limited to serving only that role
 

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No, I'm genuinely confused as to how the hell Ridley could be so persisted as a possible character.
The arguments to support it is like a thousand beams of splintered wood. Lots, and impressive to behold, but incapable of holding it up.
Believe me MY head will explode if he ends up being in the roster.
Let's just assume that you're right, that Ridley is too big. Would you be willing to refute any of our other reasons for wanting Ridley in the game?
 

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No, I'm genuinely confused as to how the hell Ridley could be so persisted as a possible character.
The arguments to support it is like a thousand beams of splintered wood. Lots, and impressive to behold, but incapable of holding it up.
Believe me MY head will explode if he ends up being in the roster.
You got a character that needs like 20 slave Pikmin to carry a freaking battery battling a 100 foot tall giant monster in Bowser that weighs at least 10 tons.

Where the stinking hell is there realism there=???

Why is there realism with size with Ridley all of a sudden if this is true=???

You are the definition of someone with clear mental issues. Then again, you're probably 7 years old, and used to Call of Booty logic, so I think it's best we leave you to the divorce-specialist psychologists after your parents both didn't divorce each other, but rather, both your parents divorced themselves from you.
 

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ok, king dedede is one head taller then kirby

In the Smash 64 character descriptions of the characters, kirby's height is listed at 8 inches, this would put dedede about 1 and a 1/2 feet, yet lol and behold he is the same size as bowser

 

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DO YOU HAVE TO EMPHASIZE EVERY SINGLE POINT YOU MAKE

Seriously though lol it isn't that big of a deal, if Sakurai really wanted Ridley in as playable, then he'd find a way to put him in, simple as that. Even provided the technical limitations (which is debatable obviously but I won't go into that), I'm sure he'd make the necessary compromises and do whatever it takes to get him into the game as a playable character if again, he really wants him in

Also, what exactly about Ridley being requested as a playable character is different from virtually any other character being requested as playable, or illogical? He has the ability to have a moveset made for him, as he has arms, legs and special abilities just like any other character, and he's the most recognized and important character outside of Samus herself. Don't see how any of that doesn't make a sense but yeah

Yeah, he fits as a boss, though who says that he can only be a boss? Just because a character fits one role doesn't mean that they're limited to serving only that role
My point being is that Master Hand did not fit as a playable character because of the way he operates.
He is constantly flying, and his attacks are essentially flashy sequences. He's borderline overpowered. They would obviously not make him part of the roster. Ridley fits in this same scheme. Also, he is more often than not depicted as very large.
I'll admit for the most part Metroid's cast doesn't have much to offer in the way of fitting characters for SSB (**** Hunters that doesn't count). Ridley is certainly the closest. But even as the closest he's still a long ways off.
 

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My point being is that Master Hand did not fit as a playable character because of the way he operates.
He is constantly flying, and his attacks are essentially flashy sequences. He's borderline overpowered. They would obviously not make him part of the roster. Ridley fits in this same scheme. Also, he is more often than not depicted as very large.
I'll admit for the most part Metroid doesn't have much to offer in the way of fitting characters for SSB (**** Hunters that doesn't count). Ridley is certainly the closest. But even as the closest he's still a long ways off.
guess what. ridley can crawl. just like a two year old like you WHOOPS DID I SAY THAT OUT LOUD?
 
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