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[#HBC | ѕoup]

Methinks the Bardull doth protest too much.


Soup, do ye find any similarities between Pawn's behavior hence and upon the fair boat Tranquility?

Yeah, I think I recall him having the same behavior when it came to me, but it's just so downright anti-town I can't help but feel like there's still a chance of him being scum for his actions, and I also believe that it's not the same situation and Pawn played his vote off more passively than assertively here, and even after looking back I feel that his vote on me in that game too at least had some meat to it, but here, his reasoning is hollow and non-existent, what's worse he does at the most convenient time possible.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Pawn's vote here:

Goodness, such prose. Surely there is no one who could accuse you of scumliness after a defense so eloquent.

Vote: Bardull

Pawn's vote in Tranquility:

Soup's getting way to hot and bothered about some stupid random vote.

Soup trying to explain his awkwardness.

Soup failing to back up his explanation. How much work would it have been to explain what he was trying to get before leaving? If he had time to type that he could've said.

Vote: Soup

It might not be the most elequent, but certainly there's something here compared to a snide remark towards my slot without even so much of a reason.

I have no idea why i mixed up passively and assertively in my post, probably because I've only gotten 4 hours of sleep.

 

[No Hetero]

I was reading PR or Scum with Bardull.
He claimed PR (town Cop at that)
No one has CC'd him yet.
It was obvious that he is more than likely telling the truth.

Clearer?

Except, sweetums, and I don't mean to be coarse in my discussion with you, but if there's a cop at all, maybe he isn't going to counterclaim in the first Day when he could just lynch Bard for being obviously scummy. See: Jerksauce's argument that no cop would ever crumb this way. To see how true this is, look at Brett Hull's reasoning for having done so:

I wanted to experiment with a bold crumb early on.

Brett Hull sees his town cop PM, and decides to throw it in the trash? I don't think so, luv.

Claiming to be any PR in D1 (which is what he did by saying he was important, prior to the actual roleclaim) is a play with the goal of getting shot at Night. It's trading your hiding spot within the other townies for, "hey, scum, look at me." This is a move exclusive to VTs, and even when a VT makes that play, they do it as a subtle crumb that townies aren't going to catch on and make a deal out of it, while the mafia (reading for PR crumbs) will see and will shoot them at Night, thinking they've found a PR. That was the original problem of this situation: Bard stuck a neon sign next to his head.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It might be hard to believe, but yes, Bardull really did throw his whole role in the trash with a blatantly obvious crumb, something that would have gotten him suspicion in the first place from the mafia. I can't tell you the reason he did it because I'm not him, but if you're willing to give me a chance then I can right these wrongs.

 

[Dooms]

Obligatory

V/LA for the weekend

 

[No Hetero]

if order is to be had and the scum hard bodied, then leave my slot be til day 4; you're in for a treat.

This one thing is strange about the crumb: why Day 4? Obviously this was meant to be a cop crumb all along, so a mention of Day 4 leaves me scratching my head. It could be town posturing, pointing to just bad play. But it's a single anomaly. I don't see this slot redeeming itself in my eyes.

@ Raziek Your interaction with BP (#84-88) interests me. I don't see how Pawn is an RVS vote and why the RVS vote even mattered if you're going to just change it instantly to someone else. I know RVS votes aren't always concrete but really, what did you even get out of agreeing with No Hetero's assumption, just to change it to someone else?

@ No Hetero Sorry to butt in but you're in this too. Is pawn Scum or Dumb? Both of you have had problems with this slot before and misreading his anti-town actions (myself included). I am wary of just instantly damning him without a proper explanation, but his vote on my slot right now is the worst I can get.

I don't like Paw Paw or Razzle-Dazzle thus far. Nothing to say about alignment just yet given lack of anything from the pair.

I think the Day should continue for some time, rather than immediate bodying. But you're where I see it ending.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Aww, cmon baby, I like it when you play hard to get but you know you want to keep me around

(please)

also i dont know why bardull forgot to mention but this role is really janky and i'm an adrenaline cop, it says if i get a guilty during the night i will be given another investigation to use the following one, but this only happens once

pretty sure this means i get two investigations if i successfully guilty someone the prior night

 

[No Hetero]

What's the role flavour?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

im a dude named kristoff and im constantly in fear of being carjacked or stabbed and im all hopped up on tim horton's and andrenaline and apparently something about hiking in snow to catch criminals and stuff

 

[Fandangox]

No one has CC'd him yet.

Do you really think Cop would CC day 1?

like that crumb is obviously real, but it's also so blatantly a PR tell to begin with that it doesn't make sense to do it unless you were either trying to draw the NK (which of course the town cop shouldn't be doing) or elaborately faking it as scum so that you would have an ace for exactly this moment.

It could be a condition to use the role (leaving the crumb I mean) but if its not then I see no reason why a cop would leave such a crumb in Day 1.

 

[Fandangox]

Okay.

I side with Gord over Bardull for sure.

Kind of late considering what has happened, but could you elaborate more?

 

[No Hetero]

What province?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

What province?

manitoba

 

[Raziek]

I'm catching up, sorry for straight up dipping. I just kept looking at it and going "Nope, later."

I'm actually pleasantly surprised that KWKantrip backed off so quickly on his push on me because I was planning on cracking his head for that. Joey handled it for me, though. Town-leaning Joey at the moment.

Need to re-read BardullvJ in greater detail, as I did a bit of skimming their walls. Not seeing anything that stands out as blatantly scummy.

I'm probably only going to manage a partial re-read right now, as I am leaving soon for a house party/smashfest that will be occupying my entire evening.

 

[Raziek]

Yeah, but what do you meant with "in this context" specifically.

This is probably no longer important, but it was in the context of "Taking obviously RVS stuff with deadpan seriousness."

IE. Me jokingly taking his points to be 100% serious.

 

[Raziek]

And I got to Bardull's cop claim.

I knew this push was a feel-bad from the start. Why would Bardull as Scum do such a blatant and obvious crumb? All it does is draw attention to him. Baaaaaad Town play.

I'm not lynching Bardull.

 

[Raziek]

And then I got to his replacement out. I'M OUT.

BACK TOMORROW.

 

[Dooms]

All I said was that it was bad.

What the **** did I do? ;_;

 

[Dooms]

@ KWK's Raz push btw

 

[Dooms]

Gord simply didn't do anything wrong. Like, none of his play has been scummy at all. I don't see how anyone could scum read him right now.

 

[Friday Townie]

I'd lynch Frito purely because I think it'd be funny since they are the "Rebecca Black" hydra.

Speaking of, Frito, did you gain any info off your...weird..,push on me? (I can't think of a better word) Also why are you wary of Circus but not truly wary of me at this time? Aaaand why does No Hetero get a pass to you? Could KWK be "faking"? How is there scum hunting real? Finally what is your opinion on Joey. You hydra with him a lot so your opinion for me would help

Circus' early aren't really content he voted me and pointed out we didn't post, I've wanted Rajam to catch up but I think he is busy atm. I'm trying to think about his posts about Bardull's crumbs, that is definantly telling depending on what alignment Bardull is, more so if Bardull is scum.

No Hetero is because I cannot personally get a definitive read on Marshy without seeing how he pushes and flips. Letting him do his own thing is the best way to do this.

KWK "could" but I don't think it is likely right now. They are trying to wrap their head around the way they voted Bardull, only think that irks me right now, but not really something I think is that scummy.

Joey I should dig into a bit more, I don't dislike him right now and that is best I can give.

 

[Friday Townie]

Still waiting on Rajam for his input but I don't think either Soup or Gorf is a good lynch.

Vote: Circus

 

[Kantrip]

Potassium replacing in for KWK

Can't be arsed to keep up the gimmick right now and Sokr doesn't care about this game. Sorry to remove a Canadabro from the game and become boring and un-creative, but yeah.

Bardull was bad town, soup is good town, slot is town town. Whoever is still questioning the slot should back off, we're not lynching our cop.

Joey still town

My Raz push was RVS

My Fanny push was legit at the time but "at the time" was super early game and it was obviously reachy. I still think it had merit but nothing has come up since so Fanny is low priority. The point lied in the fact that the only time he gave input was when he was being pressured or questioned by someone (aside from one case where he asked Bardull what his crumb meant). And the second point was basically that him getting asked questions about a player spurred him to ask said player questions. Rather than those questions coming up the first time he read that player's posts.

 

[Kantrip]

I'm catching up, sorry for straight up dipping. I just kept looking at it and going "Nope, later."

I'm actually pleasantly surprised that KWKantrip backed off so quickly on his push on me because I was planning on cracking his head for that. Joey handled it for me, though. Town-leaning Joey at the moment.

Need to re-read BardullvJ in greater detail, as I did a bit of skimming their walls. Not seeing anything that stands out as blatantly scummy.

I'm probably only going to manage a partial re-read right now, as I am leaving soon for a house party/smashfest that will be occupying my entire evening.

Did you think my push was serious?

Kind of late considering what has happened, but could you elaborate more?

Just want to say it hasn't slipped by me that you're doing more questioning and scumhunting of your own volition now. Good work

 

[Kantrip]

@Red Ryu you guys think soup is town right?

I'm interested in the Circus vote. Care to elaborate?

 

[Kantrip]

So we have a cleared Bardull. I'm okay with this.

His reads are super unappetizing though.

Why were you so fast to call Bardull clear without doubting the claim at all?

Do you think Circus's skepticism is unwarranted?

 

[Circus]

TIME OUT:

@BarDulL, take care of your mental health man, no shame in replacing. Things can get stressful in mafia when you're competitive and I get that. I apologize for whatever role I undoubtedly played in your decision to leave the game. Just don't be a stranger to the social thread. Take it easy.

TIME IN.

soup, get on Frito with me.

 

[Circus]

Still waiting on Rajam for his input but I don't think either Soup or Gorf is a good lynch.
Vote: Circus

oh please come the **** at me it would make my day

 

[#HBC | J]

With No Hetero in this game, @ Circus , that sentence is diiiiirty.

 

[Circus]

Bardull was bad town, soup is good town, slot is town town. Whoever is still questioning the slot should back off, we're not lynching our cop.

little thing @ the bolded: that he's the cop, if that is indeed the case, is irrelevant at this point. Scum is either going to kill him toNight or roleblock him into oblivion. No one should care whether or not we're lynching out cop at this point. We should just care about whether or not we're lynching a townie.

 

[Circus]

With No Hetero in this game, @ Circus , that sentence is diiiiirty.

 

[Kantrip]

little thing @ the bolded: that he's the cop, if that is indeed the case, is irrelevant at this point. Scum is either going to kill him toNight or roleblock him into oblivion. No one should care whether or not we're lynching out cop at this point. We should just care about whether or not we're lynching a townie.

it's not irrelevant to the fact that him being our cop contributes to why we're not lynching him

sure he won't get to use his cop powers, but we're still not lynching our cop

 

[Circus]

it's not irrelevant to the fact that him being our cop contributes to why we're not lynching him

only insofar as him being our cop would also mean he's town. Saying "we're not lynching our cop" implies that we have a vested interest in saving the role for its ability. "We're not lynching bardull's slot because I think he told the truth about being the cop and is therefor town" would be the real argument for keeping him.

Ruy, you dig into Joey yet?

 

[Kantrip]

you're reading farther into it than I intended to convey with my message

I just meant we're not lynching our cop as in Bardull is our cop, and we're not lynching him. Not "we're not lynching him BECAUSE he's our cop."

we're not lynching him because he's town

he also happens to be our cop

ergo, we're not lynching our cop

anyways this is irrelevant so i shall stop

 

[Friday Townie]

VOTE: CIRCUS

oh hey so this game started

It's his first post, nothing here.

nah, Kantrip slot still fine. Interesting that you seem to hinge his alignment on Gorf's though. Do you?

But why though?

Man, let's not forget about the Bardull/Frito RVS distancing later.

But notice no stance, observation? yes, but still keeps himself clean.

Gorf, we gonna be so tight this game, I can feel it. Hope No Hetero's on our side.

Circus seems to take an immediate likely to both Gorf and No Hetero, for Gorf, maybe I can see why but why here on No Hetero?

You gotta be kidding me.

If you keep bringing this up of your own volition, you're basically ensuring it'll get talked about. Surely you're not this dense. Surely you're doing this for a reason.

I'm give Circus this, I agree with him here.

that moment when No Hetero flirts with J, who's using a little girl as a talking head THE DREAM IS COLLAPSING

Nothing to comment on here.

Vote: Friday Townie

Bad vote, he leads to wanting Bardull and has issues with him but votes us instead? Dislike intently, this is out of place with his mindset and comes out of nowhere.

Gorf, keep doin' what you're doin'. Don't mind me while I chew this gum in the corner for a minute.

@BarDulL

This was dangerously close to becoming a compelling point. Luckily, you dodged any semblance of such by calling your own observation "negligible." Whew, that was a close one!

You want Gorf toDay, right? Let's say you can't have Gorf. Let's say he's a tree stump like he was in that other game I've already forgotten. Who takes his place?

This is more legitimate.

I guess it was silly of me to assume this would translate into a post from you guys later.

Good observation, pointless post only to attempt a read when there is none.

You know I can't make it that easy on you. "Hard to get" is like my main play setting.

Feel free to say nice things about my butt some more though.

Anything more relevant overall or is this gonna be MMU where I see you paying safe?

You know I can't make it that easy on you. "Hard to get" is like my main play setting.

Feel free to say nice things about my butt some more though.

oh i ruined everything oh god oh man mrgrgr

Don't care about this.

yeah man yeah bus that partner

Is there a basis for this? Let me guess, no?

town killin it this game i'm so proud

Immediate grab for #HBC points.

dammit bardull

So where does this lead?

there are seriously much less conspicuous ways to crumb. especially a role as basic as cop. bardull, why were you so ostentatious about this? and so early?

So he asks some legitimate questions.

like that crumb is obviously real, but it's also so blatantly a PR tell to begin with that it doesn't make sense to do it unless you were either trying to draw the NK (which of course the town cop shouldn't be doing) or elaborately faking it as scum so that you would have an ace for exactly this moment.

He doesn't even wait for an answer, he immediately jumps to this conclusion before Bardull can talk about the subject, this is gross. This is not an A>B Circus is making jumps in thought right here that a townie would not make.

Just to make this as clear as possible


I said the CRUMB was obviously real. Not that what you're claiming to be is obviously true. It is obvious that the post in which you claim to have crumbed cop does indeed contain crumbs, and is not just a post you're retrofitting into a crumb out of desperation. But that doesn't prove your claim to be true in any way yet. Again, there is no reason to OVERTLY draw attention to a crumb unless a) you are a VT/bomb/some other town role that is intentionally trying to draw the NK, or b) you are scum trying to loudly imply a PR in order to deter wagons on you. Calling attention to a genuine PR crumb defeats THE ENTIRE ****ING POINT OF CRUMBING. Everyone else knew that, which is why plenty of people felt comfortable voting you, and why you still aren't clear now (it truly troubles me that J used the "c" word in reference to you). I'm not gonna sit here and let you claim roleblocked for three Days.

It is telling that your suspicion of No Hetero is not really based on his play, but the specific manner in which he has interacted with you. No "this is scummy" or "that raises a red flag;" just "he's done this to ME before and he was scum THEN."

It is also telling that you've handwaved your back-and-forth with Gorf as nothing but a discussion catalyst, despite the fact that he has pretty much been your sole focus so far toDay, in order to...

body Pawn? The guy with half a dozen posts? You're going to have a case on him tomorrow? Really? Can't wait to see this.

Not to mention the main beef you seem to have with J right now, is copy/paste what your argument against Gorf was before. "He intervened in a discussion and that's scummy!" If J is scummy for this, then why isn't Gorf? If Gorf is still scummy for this, then why do you no longer list him as one of your top 3 scum suspects?

See, a townie would have just admitted to changing their mind about Gorf and show interest in looking elsewhere. But you don't go for that. You dismiss the Gorf suspicion completely, like you never even meant any of it, and are now so scared of looking directionless that you feel like you need to present a case on Pawn, a null slot, while recycling your previous argument against Gorf with J and hoping it sticks this time. It's an overcorrection and it's really obvious.

Like, obviously an un-CC'd cop claim requires some consideration, but you're just so full of hot air I feel like I could pop you with a pin.

This is full of nothing, he makes a long post describing why Bardull's claim is crap, then immediately takes a side stance right away instead of pressing this. This sidelining is gross he is waiting to see what others thing before he takes a solid stance instead of here which should have ended with a solid stance. Instead, he's trying to stay safe on the matter.

To elaborate on why this matters, this is specifically telling because the subject of your focus remains you, not No Hetero. Rather than explain why what No Hetero has done is indicative of scum alignment, for meta reasons or otherwise, you just go far enough to say that what he's doing to YOU is wrong and shouldn't be followed, and then leaping to "therefore scum" after the fact. I get the feeling that if he were acting exactly this way but with someone else in his #HBCrosshairs, it would not ping on your radar like this.

Circus debunks Bardull here, while being semi legit, really doesn't lead to him doing anything with it, and note there is no vote here on Bardull despite him thinking he is full of it.

~

Tl;DR

1. Circus did give more stances than I remembered, but they are so safe and when he does take a more solid stance he does not try to do anything with it other than his image.

2. He is not trying to expand in any meaningful way unless town pushes that way.

3. His interaction with Bardull is gross, he clearly has a stance on him but doesn't do anything with it. And even then he doesn't try to wait for a reponse to form an opinion, he asked questions with no purpose.

Circus is scum.

Vote: Circus

 

[Friday Townie]

oh i ruined everything oh god oh man mrgrgr

Don't care about this.

yeah man yeah bus that partner

Is there a basis for this? Let me guess, no?

town killin it this game i'm so proud

Immediate grab for #HBC points.

dammit bardull

So where does this lead?

there are seriously much less conspicuous ways to crumb. especially a role as basic as cop. bardull, why were you so ostentatious about this? and so early?

So he asks some legitimate questions.

like that crumb is obviously real, but it's also so blatantly a PR tell to begin with that it doesn't make sense to do it unless you were either trying to draw the NK (which of course the town cop shouldn't be doing) or elaborately faking it as scum so that you would have an ace for exactly this moment.

He doesn't even wait for an answer, he immediately jumps to this conclusion before Bardull can talk about the subject, this is gross. This is not an A>B Circus is making jumps in thought right here that a townie would not make.

Just to make this as clear as possible


I said the CRUMB was obviously real. Not that what you're claiming to be is obviously true. It is obvious that the post in which you claim to have crumbed cop does indeed contain crumbs, and is not just a post you're retrofitting into a crumb out of desperation. But that doesn't prove your claim to be true in any way yet. Again, there is no reason to OVERTLY draw attention to a crumb unless a) you are a VT/bomb/some other town role that is intentionally trying to draw the NK, or b) you are scum trying to loudly imply a PR in order to deter wagons on you. Calling attention to a genuine PR crumb defeats THE ENTIRE ****ING POINT OF CRUMBING. Everyone else knew that, which is why plenty of people felt comfortable voting you, and why you still aren't clear now (it truly troubles me that J used the "c" word in reference to you). I'm not gonna sit here and let you claim roleblocked for three Days.

It is telling that your suspicion of No Hetero is not really based on his play, but the specific manner in which he has interacted with you. No "this is scummy" or "that raises a red flag;" just "he's done this to ME before and he was scum THEN."

It is also telling that you've handwaved your back-and-forth with Gorf as nothing but a discussion catalyst, despite the fact that he has pretty much been your sole focus so far toDay, in order to...

body Pawn? The guy with half a dozen posts? You're going to have a case on him tomorrow? Really? Can't wait to see this.

Not to mention the main beef you seem to have with J right now, is copy/paste what your argument against Gorf was before. "He intervened in a discussion and that's scummy!" If J is scummy for this, then why isn't Gorf? If Gorf is still scummy for this, then why do you no longer list him as one of your top 3 scum suspects?

See, a townie would have just admitted to changing their mind about Gorf and show interest in looking elsewhere. But you don't go for that. You dismiss the Gorf suspicion completely, like you never even meant any of it, and are now so scared of looking directionless that you feel like you need to present a case on Pawn, a null slot, while recycling your previous argument against Gorf with J and hoping it sticks this time. It's an overcorrection and it's really obvious.

Like, obviously an un-CC'd cop claim requires some consideration, but you're just so full of hot air I feel like I could pop you with a pin.

This is full of nothing, he makes a long post describing why Bardull's claim is crap, then immediately takes a side stance right away instead of pressing this. This sidelining is gross he is waiting to see what others thing before he takes a solid stance instead of here which should have ended with a solid stance. Instead, he's trying to stay safe on the matter.

To elaborate on why this matters, this is specifically telling because the subject of your focus remains you, not No Hetero. Rather than explain why what No Hetero has done is indicative of scum alignment, for meta reasons or otherwise, you just go far enough to say that what he's doing to YOU is wrong and shouldn't be followed, and then leaping to "therefore scum" after the fact. I get the feeling that if he were acting exactly this way but with someone else in his #HBCrosshairs, it would not ping on your radar like this.

Circus debunks Bardull here, while being semi legit, really doesn't lead to him doing anything with it, and note there is no vote here on Bardull despite him thinking he is full of it.

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Tl;DR

1. Circus did give more stances than I remembered, but they are so safe and when he does take a more solid stance he does not try to do anything with it other than his image.

2. He is not trying to expand in any meaningful way unless town pushes that way.

3. His interaction with Bardull is gross, he clearly has a stance on him but doesn't do anything with it. And even then he doesn't try to wait for a reponse to form an opinion, he asked questions with no purpose.

Circus is scum.

Vote: Circus

later parts need to league atm, later.

 

[Kantrip]

Ruy, tell me: Do you honestly believe everything you wrote there and think it is a good basis to lynch Circus off of?

 

[Friday Townie]

oh i ruined everything oh god oh man mrgrgr

Don't care about this.

yeah man yeah bus that partner

Is there a basis for this? Let me guess, no?

town killin it this game i'm so proud

Immediate grab for #HBC points.

dammit bardull

So where does this lead?

there are seriously much less conspicuous ways to crumb. especially a role as basic as cop. bardull, why were you so ostentatious about this? and so early?

So he asks some legitimate questions.

like that crumb is obviously real, but it's also so blatantly a PR tell to begin with that it doesn't make sense to do it unless you were either trying to draw the NK (which of course the town cop shouldn't be doing) or elaborately faking it as scum so that you would have an ace for exactly this moment.

He doesn't even wait for an answer, he immediately jumps to this conclusion before Bardull can talk about the subject, this is gross. This is not an A>B Circus is making jumps in thought right here that a townie would not make.

Just to make this as clear as possible


I said the CRUMB was obviously real. Not that what you're claiming to be is obviously true. It is obvious that the post in which you claim to have crumbed cop does indeed contain crumbs, and is not just a post you're retrofitting into a crumb out of desperation. But that doesn't prove your claim to be true in any way yet. Again, there is no reason to OVERTLY draw attention to a crumb unless a) you are a VT/bomb/some other town role that is intentionally trying to draw the NK, or b) you are scum trying to loudly imply a PR in order to deter wagons on you. Calling attention to a genuine PR crumb defeats THE ENTIRE ****ING POINT OF CRUMBING. Everyone else knew that, which is why plenty of people felt comfortable voting you, and why you still aren't clear now (it truly troubles me that J used the "c" word in reference to you). I'm not gonna sit here and let you claim roleblocked for three Days.

It is telling that your suspicion of No Hetero is not really based on his play, but the specific manner in which he has interacted with you. No "this is scummy" or "that raises a red flag;" just "he's done this to ME before and he was scum THEN."

It is also telling that you've handwaved your back-and-forth with Gorf as nothing but a discussion catalyst, despite the fact that he has pretty much been your sole focus so far toDay, in order to...

body Pawn? The guy with half a dozen posts? You're going to have a case on him tomorrow? Really? Can't wait to see this.

Not to mention the main beef you seem to have with J right now, is copy/paste what your argument against Gorf was before. "He intervened in a discussion and that's scummy!" If J is scummy for this, then why isn't Gorf? If Gorf is still scummy for this, then why do you no longer list him as one of your top 3 scum suspects?

See, a townie would have just admitted to changing their mind about Gorf and show interest in looking elsewhere. But you don't go for that. You dismiss the Gorf suspicion completely, like you never even meant any of it, and are now so scared of looking directionless that you feel like you need to present a case on Pawn, a null slot, while recycling your previous argument against Gorf with J and hoping it sticks this time. It's an overcorrection and it's really obvious.

Like, obviously an un-CC'd cop claim requires some consideration, but you're just so full of hot air I feel like I could pop you with a pin.

This is full of nothing, he makes a long post describing why Bardull's claim is crap, then immediately takes a side stance right away instead of pressing this. This sidelining is gross he is waiting to see what others thing before he takes a solid stance instead of here which should have ended with a solid stance. Instead, he's trying to stay safe on the matter.

To elaborate on why this matters, this is specifically telling because the subject of your focus remains you, not No Hetero. Rather than explain why what No Hetero has done is indicative of scum alignment, for meta reasons or otherwise, you just go far enough to say that what he's doing to YOU is wrong and shouldn't be followed, and then leaping to "therefore scum" after the fact. I get the feeling that if he were acting exactly this way but with someone else in his #HBCrosshairs, it would not ping on your radar like this.

Circus debunks Bardull here, while being semi legit, really doesn't lead to him doing anything with it, and note there is no vote here on Bardull despite him thinking he is full of it.

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Tl;DR

1. Circus did give more stances than I remembered, but they are so safe and when he does take a more solid stance he does not try to do anything with it other than his image.

2. He is not trying to expand in any meaningful way unless town pushes that way.

3. His interaction with Bardull is gross, he clearly has a stance on him but doesn't do anything with it. And even then he doesn't try to wait for a reponse to form an opinion, he asked questions with no purpose.

Circus is scum.

Vote: Circus

later parts need to league atm, later.

Smashboards stop quoting this.

 

[Kantrip]

Also tell me your biggest townreads.

If you're town, those people are probably scum.

 

[Friday Townie]

Ruy, tell me: Do you honestly believe everything you wrote there and think it is a good basis to lynch Circus off of?

I hate what he did later, hate how he handled Bardull more so.

I don't like his earlier play because I really don't think he did anything note worthy content wise or anything that wasn't safe. Even worse with Bardill he immediately steps back from it when he makes it clear he dislikes the slot but makes no effort to vote or push it instead going, "well maybe?"