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[#HBC | Red Ryu]

1. You say, "I don't see scum-Ryu making that case against Circus." That's a statement in defense of Ryu's actions that justifies them as town. Then, you make a call-out on me for "defending" Ryu, which suggests that you see from me a statement in defense of Ryu's actions that justifies them as town. But you call that bad; there's the double standard. That our reads on Ryu actually differ is irrelevant, because I'm talking about your perspective on me.

Where did Joey say this to you?

@2 and 3, I can see I'm going to have to lay this out in a separate post.

Can you actually confront me for once?

6. If we ignore, as you're doing, the strength of the reasoning D1 on Bard (Circus/myself) that disallowed Bard from possibly being town unless he was throwing away his PR, then we're left with Soup... who wasn't "obvtown" and didn't showcase any "improved play". He made several appeals and generally tried to scramble to save his slot, which he would have done as any role. Hell, I don't think Soup could have redeemed the slot, but the fact remains that he didn't redeem it. He was next to lynched, with Raz and others being okay with hammering at deadline. Players e.g. J, Ryu were only against the lynch because of Bard's cop claim, and the lynch only soured because of a vote from Badwolf in the final hour, who said as his motivation: "I don't want to lynch the confirmed cop."

I am one to say **** claims nowadays over how they play, unless their play lines up better with it, like really strongly. I doubt his crumb was fake nor with how Soup mentioned the second part with having to hit scum to keep his cop investigate.

My issue with how D1 went down at the end is a lot of people threw it in the toilet without really much thought about it. I wasn't against it solely because he claimed cop, I was against it because his play lined up better and looked far more likely to have been town with how he crumbed and what Soup said with the restriction he had. Gorf/Hetero/Circus/Pawn did not do this. Circus more so flip flopped and took no immediate action on the matter but point stands. A claim is part of someones play, a lot of players in this game would rather play a vanilla game and treat every game like it is a vanilla game.

Heck only reason I voted Soup close to deadline was because I thought nothing else was possible and wanted any flip over a NL.

 

[Raziek]

Have skimmed, finishing Bioshock Infinite (it's homework), then will be posting. I'm basically at the end of the game.

 

[Raziek]

Oooooh, I actually like this question. People who don't care for town-read explanations can skip over it, but I'll divulge a bit more:

[collapse=BW read]His posts are honest and what I know of the person behind the keyboard. His thoughts have a clear precise way about them and do not hold scum-intent. The only thing he is lacking is the intiative to truly push his own reads but BW is a bit of a newer player so I doubt he will because he gets beaten down by players unfairly. I would also like to note that in his catch-up posts he goes into detail as to why he likes things. He is also calm this game (ignore his post outburts towards SWF eating his posts) which means I feel he isn't rigid while playing. Badwolf as scum is easy to read (which is why he is lynched quickly as scum) the fact he has survived this far without any pressure or anyone wanting him dead should be indication enough that he is town (in my eyes). So compared to the rest of the cast which can become harder to read, I like him the most. More meta-reliant, but that is what happens when you play with someone who you went to high school with and introduced to mafia and forum mafia. I know BW the best and I will say that with confidence.[/collapse]

I didn't realize you two knew each other. Either way, thanks for the clarification on that.

But I mean from scumRaz' POV he's deflecting pressure from a player he KNOWS is legit, and redirecting that pressure onto a name that can be universally agreed upon, only to NK it because cop. Win win.

Him lynching cop would look atrocious, and if he's scum i bet he knew that in his position. On paper, lynching pawn doesn't look bad. That's a fact. But it IS being on a lynch.

Oh and also how can you sit here and say you like the slot when his early play is still there, unaltered? Literally nothing but dismissals of content and conversation, presenting his existence, and all of a sudden the Raz vanishing act.

This post is full of nothing but disgusting misrepresentations of my play.

I went HELLA far out of my way to make my Bardull town-read clear early in the game.

To top that off, what benefit do I gain as ScumRaz from keeping Bardull/Soup alive to NK him? All that does is trade me a nightkill on a player of my choice for a mediocre lynch on Pawndidater. It makes no sense for me to go out of my way to lynch Pawn.

Then you're trying to throw **** on me for lynching Pawn? How is being on a lynch a bad thing? That's seriously like the most COMMON THING in mafia, yet you're trying to paint me as scummy for it? How many times have you heard "Will vote to avoid NL?"

"Dismissing content" is also a mis-representation. I was in no way trying to cut down content, but when asked by BP what I felt interesting had happened so far, I didn't find much of the RVS content to be meaningful. I also re-evaluated my opinion on that when he brought up actual relevant content that I had skimmed over.

I have something on tap here but talk to me about Badwolf first. I'm seeing talk about Raz kicking up the Pawn wagon last Day, but it was actually Badwolf who voted and generated the momentum. Did you notice / does that affect your reads?

????

vote: Pawndidater2

Would much rather see this than Soup lynch.

Votecount 1.3

Gorf (1): (Fandagox)
Soup (5): (No Hetero,Pawn,Gorf,Blindfolded Philosophers,FT)
KWK(2): (Joey,BW)
FT(1): (Circus)
Pawn(2): (Soup,Raziek)


Players Voting:

Most of ya'll

Players not Voting:

J
Potassium

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is today at Midnight

@ Circus @ #HBC | BadWolf @ Dooms

If you're going to pick a wagon, you should do it now.

I'm keeping my vote on Pawn for the moment, but will move to Soup to avoid a NL if absolutely necessary.

Oh, and @ Kantrip , @ Fandangox as well.

How did HE generate the momentum when I was the one who voted, then tagged EVERYONE who wasn't on the Soup wagon?

@ #HBC | Red Ryu : I think you're off-base on your Circus push right now.

I really like Joey's 600. Clear and definite scum-hunting and trying to figure out Gorf's intentions from his early play.

I don't understand why Fanny is coming to a Badwolf vote in his 606. I don't see the thought process here.

raz are you seriously using an example of GORF CORRECTLY SCUMREADING YOU as evidence to suspect him here? his treatment of your slot in that game had NOTHING to do with him being scum there

Him being correct has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

I quoted it because of how GORFSCUM seems to have a tendency of picking a mechanical point to sit on his vote, so that even when the reasoning behind it is challenged, he can go "Nah man" and keep his vote where it is. He did that to me in F&L2, and his approach to the Soup wagon looks very similar to me. THAT is why I brought it up.

Badwolf's play on the end of page 16 is confusing the crap out of me. I don't understand that push at all.

Summarized reads post to follow:

Oooooh, I actually like this question. People who don't care for town-read explanations can skip over it, but I'll divulge a bit more:

[collapse=BW read]His posts are honest and what I know of the person behind the keyboard. His thoughts have a clear precise way about them and do not hold scum-intent. The only thing he is lacking is the intiative to truly push his own reads but BW is a bit of a newer player so I doubt he will because he gets beaten down by players unfairly. I would also like to note that in his catch-up posts he goes into detail as to why he likes things. He is also calm this game (ignore his post outburts towards SWF eating his posts) which means I feel he isn't rigid while playing. Badwolf as scum is easy to read (which is why he is lynched quickly as scum) the fact he has survived this far without any pressure or anyone wanting him dead should be indication enough that he is town (in my eyes). So compared to the rest of the cast which can become harder to read, I like him the most. More meta-reliant, but that is what happens when you play with someone who you went to high school with and introduced to mafia and forum mafia. I know BW the best and I will say that with confidence.[/collapse]

I didn't realize you two knew each other. Either way, thanks for the clarification on that.

But I mean from scumRaz' POV he's deflecting pressure from a player he KNOWS is legit, and redirecting that pressure onto a name that can be universally agreed upon, only to NK it because cop. Win win.

Him lynching cop would look atrocious, and if he's scum i bet he knew that in his position. On paper, lynching pawn doesn't look bad. That's a fact. But it IS being on a lynch.

Oh and also how can you sit here and say you like the slot when his early play is still there, unaltered? Literally nothing but dismissals of content and conversation, presenting his existence, and all of a sudden the Raz vanishing act.

This post is full of nothing but disgusting misrepresentations of my play.

I went HELLA far out of my way to make my Bardull town-read clear early in the game.

To top that off, what benefit do I gain as ScumRaz from keeping Bardull/Soup alive to NK him? All that does is trade me a nightkill on a player of my choice for a mediocre lynch on Pawndidater. It makes no sense for me to go out of my way to lynch Pawn.

Then you're trying to throw **** on me for lynching Pawn? How is being on a lynch a bad thing? That's seriously like the most COMMON THING in mafia, yet you're trying to paint me as scummy for it? How many times have you heard "Will vote to avoid NL?"

"Dismissing content" is also a mis-representation. I was in no way trying to cut down content, but when asked by BP what I felt interesting had happened so far, I didn't find much of the RVS content to be meaningful. I also re-evaluated my opinion on that when he brought up actual relevant content that I had skimmed over.

I have something on tap here but talk to me about Badwolf first. I'm seeing talk about Raz kicking up the Pawn wagon last Day, but it was actually Badwolf who voted and generated the momentum. Did you notice / does that affect your reads?

????

vote: Pawndidater2

Would much rather see this than Soup lynch.

Votecount 1.3

Gorf (1): (Fandagox)
Soup (5): (No Hetero,Pawn,Gorf,Blindfolded Philosophers,FT)
KWK(2): (Joey,BW)
FT(1): (Circus)
Pawn(2): (Soup,Raziek)


Players Voting:

Most of ya'll

Players not Voting:

J
Potassium

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is today at Midnight

@ Circus @ #HBC | BadWolf @ Dooms

If you're going to pick a wagon, you should do it now.

I'm keeping my vote on Pawn for the moment, but will move to Soup to avoid a NL if absolutely necessary.

Oh, and @ Kantrip , @ Fandangox as well.

How did HE generate the momentum when I was the one who voted, then tagged EVERYONE who wasn't on the Soup wagon?

@ #HBC | Red Ryu : I think you're off-base on your Circus push right now.

I really like Joey's 600. Clear and definite scum-hunting and trying to figure out Gorf's intentions from his early play.

I don't understand why Fanny is coming to a Badwolf vote in his 606. I don't see the thought process here.

raz are you seriously using an example of GORF CORRECTLY SCUMREADING YOU as evidence to suspect him here? his treatment of your slot in that game had NOTHING to do with him being scum there

Him being correct has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

I quoted it because of how GORFSCUM seems to have a tendency of picking a mechanical point to sit on his vote, so that even when the reasoning behind it is challenged, he can go "Nah man" and keep his vote where it is. He did that to me in F&L2, and his approach to the Soup wagon looks very similar to me. THAT is why I brought it up.

Badwolf's play on the end of page 16 is confusing the crap out of me. I don't understand that push at all. J, opinion on that?

Summarized reads post to follow.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Did you post the same point(s) twice by accident or am I seeing double?

 

[Raziek]

Posted twice by accident, sorry yo. Just cut it off once it repeats.

 

[Raziek]

Won't Lynch:
11. Masquerain
12. Circus
13. J
4. Blindfolded Philosophers (JDietz43/Gheb_01)
8. Potassium

Unsure:
10. FandangoX
2. Friday Townie (Red Ryu/Rajam)
3. Badwolf28738

Would Lynch:

6. No Hetero (marshy/Nabe)
9. Gorf

Town-reads are fairly clear, I think, as I've gone out of my way to indicate when I'm agreeing with someone's thought process. J is a bit more of a lean and a little closer to null, but I don't want to lynch him right now. Potassium read is a relic from D1, I know he has life-johns at the moment.

Unsure pile is largely a result of me not being able to make heads or tails of a slot's direction. I was able to follow J's reasoning on Badwolf, but after Page 16, I no longer feel like I understand that slot. At the same time, I don't understand why SCUMBadwolf would fly off the rails with a vote like that, so I don't really want to lynch him.

Frito I think is not playing the greatest, but my gut is telling me Ruy Town. I might be wrong on this, that's why it's in the pile. I don't want to put too much stock in my gut feeling on it.

I don't like Gorf. I don't like the way he approaches the game, I don't like some of the parallels I'm seeing between this game and F&L2. However, I DID like his interaction with Joey. That said, I do not have just cause to lynch this slot right now. There doesn't seem to be much support for the lynch, so I'm not going to try to cobble together a case that would boil down to "Gorf said mean things to me and I think he's wrong."

NH's directions have left a bad taste in my mouth and I've had to disagree with them on several strains of reasoning. I do not care if this slot stays around.

I have nothing pressing to push at the moment, as I don't think my scumreads are ones I could generate sufficient support for. I'd like to know how people are feeling about the ones in the unsure pile. There are opinions out there for some of them already.

I am out for now, Gorf, let's not turn things into a pissing contest between the two of us right now, as I don't think it will prove productive to coming to a lynch.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@ Raziek have you read the part where I said that I was probably wrong about my read on you coming into toDay? Tbh I didn't have much coming from yesterDay to look at but my direction is certainly different.

Aside from you not liking me, why is Kantrip on your would not lynch list? The rest of those two post are actually quite nice to look at and you've officially not become a play to me at this point, so we're certainly not gonna get to have a pissing contest.

 

[No Hetero]

@ No Hetero what is the read on me from each head.

We disagreed on your slot's first posts (I thought it was you being scum, he thought it was Rajam being town), but later we agreed that you're scum after talking over the reasoning that's now in thread.

Kantrip did not prompt anything I voted

Nor do I think he did; what we're referring to is him asking if you were serious about your ISO and read. There's a stark contrast between your slot's extremely aggressive opening, versus a passive ISO on Circus and leaving without trying a single appeal towards the lynch. Kantrip questioning you would have been a good time to turn a vote into a push by calling out some names and filling in the details, and I believe that if that scumread was as strongly held as you say, you would have been motivated to make that push.

Where did Joey say this to you?

Here, in the post that we've been hashing over with Joey:

I slight town read Ryu, but I'll be 100% honest and say that it is mostly meta. I don't see scum Ryu making that case on Circus and being that careless about his vote when combined with Rajam's really odd early-game play. I don't see any scum intent in what they're doing, especially when he did the TL;DR version of his Circus ISO.

Can you actually confront me for once?

I don't see an agenda from you in D1 -- I see you sitting on a vote with opportunity to try a push and not doing so. You could have anticipated a spot of inactivity enough to start on Circus, in order to drum up talk in that absence, and should have wanted to when challenged by Kantrip. You didn't take any action at all aside from expressing a scumread and writing an ISO, neither of which are activities with intent to build momentum. So if inactivity is what kept you from your game plan on Circus, what was that game plan? And what's stopped you from putting that plan into effect toDay?

I am one to say **** claims nowadays over how they play, unless their play lines up better with it, like really strongly. I doubt his crumb was fake nor with how Soup mentioned the second part with having to hit scum to keep his cop investigate.

My issue with how D1 went down at the end is a lot of people threw it in the toilet without really much thought about it. I wasn't against it solely because he claimed cop, I was against it because his play lined up better and looked far more likely to have been town with how he crumbed and what Soup said with the restriction he had.

This needs some very detailed elaboration.

 

[No Hetero]

Circus still doesn't look sincere at all, wanted Bardull but didn't try to vote and even opted off fur Pawn even though he spent 2 paragraphs dancing around what he wanted to do with him. I think that sideline behavior is scummy, and it's the same with his stance on me. He wanted me, but opted no support nor attempt to legitimately push. Then when I do respond to him he flat out ignores it when I talked to him today. He's not trying to form a read on my slot.

I agree on some of these points, because they're parallels between this argument on Circus' play and my argument on your play (and vice-versa, I'm not making a copying argument). Are you aware of what I'm referring to?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Hey No Hetero give me your agenda cuz I dunno if I'm that dense but I can't seem to locate it at all. You have frito and badwolf as scummy but I see virtually nothing else aside from responses. I don't care if I'm wrong, tell me what your agenda is. If you're one head not looking to speak for both of you, speak for yourself, cuz honestly I'm probably the only reason why you're not the top wagon, and I'm close to losing that grip.

 

[No Hetero]

The agenda is to lynch Frito. The reasoning is nestled in responses right now but I've already promised a conglomerated case, which I'll probably get to tomorrow. My second inclination is to go for Badwolf, and can convince Marshy on that after his ****ty post and unvote. Marshy wants Circus, I'm waiting on that pending a response that should be informative.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Cool, I await your original, not-nestled-in-responses stances with open arms. As much as I don't mind either of your heads going about their own business, **** looks shoddy and I'mma need something concrete from you guys before going any further.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Btw never post again.

Your postcount is stellar.

 

[Raziek]

@ Raziek have you read the part where I said that I was probably wrong about my read on you coming into toDay? Tbh I didn't have much coming from yesterDay to look at but my direction is certainly different.

Aside from you not liking me, why is Kantrip on your would not lynch list? The rest of those two post are actually quite nice to look at and you've officially not become a play to me at this point, so we're certainly not gonna get to have a pissing contest.

I had infact missed that, so I guess we're cool for now.

Kantrip's on my "would not lynch" list as a result of the early interaction when he made his fake case on me. I saw Town intent in why he was doing it, and he didn't try to string together a bunch of BS to support it after Joey responded.

That read is admittedly somewhat shallow due to his low overall content level, but I feel like I've got a pretty decent track record of reading Kantrip with the number of times I've played with him. It's a combination of early play, meta, and giving him a temporary pass due to his aforementioned life johns.

 

[Kantrip]

raz can you go into the town intent you can see in my fake case on you?

 

[Kantrip]

from what ive seen fanny has gotten better

bwolf confuses me and his sentence where he justifies his case on me and then goes all "why you agreeing with bad points kantrip" is grimy

can someone give me the low-down on why frito? is he playing bad or have people caught him in lies? people who are saying that when i had to prod him to say if he bought into his case or not is a point against him, it's not.

Vote: Badwolf

 

[Kantrip]

The agenda is to lynch Frito. The reasoning is nestled in responses right now but I've already promised a conglomerated case, which I'll probably get to tomorrow. My second inclination is to go for Badwolf, and can convince Marshy on that after his ****ty post and unvote. Marshy wants Circus, I'm waiting on that pending a response that should be informative.

oh hey i'll just wait for this, and raz will probably give me the other side of the story

right raz? <3

 

[Kantrip]

and by badwolf confuses me i mean badwolf is ****ing scum

 

[No Hetero]

i am down on bwolf my man. that unvote is ROTTEN like cow ****

Him being correct has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
I quoted it because of how GORFSCUM seems to have a tendency of picking a mechanical point to sit on his vote, so that even when the reasoning behind it is challenged, he can go "Nah man" and keep his vote where it is. He did that to me in F&L2, and his approach to the Soup wagon looks very similar to me. THAT is why I brought it up.

gorf correctly scumreading you there absolutely ****ing DOES have reason to do with it

gorf will keep his vote on ******* REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT. i have LITERALLY ****ing been attached to the hip with gorf and im telling you this **** is null. get the **** outta hear. he did the same ****ing **** to all the dumb mother****ing townies we had to mow down in luigis mansion til ****** wanted to start playing like they were town and we could finally lynch a scumbag. im not letting this go cuz this gorf suspicion is ****

Cool, I await your original, not-nestled-in-responses stances with open arms. As much as I don't mind either of your heads going about their own business, **** looks shoddy and I'mma need something concrete from you guys before going any further.

oh hey i'll just wait for this, and raz will probably give me the other side of the story

right raz? <3

yo hold up. its RIGHT ****ING THERE in nabes posts today. its goddamn adorable the way he acts like hes not already pandering when he offers to tell you TWICE why ryu is obviously a drippy scumdump. here's the ONLY side of the story
read the mother****ing game

 

[Kantrip]

i'll honestly truly try to read the thread this weekend if i find time but i'll be doing a lot of drinking

brewtassium incoming

 

[No Hetero]

I am one to say **** claims nowadays over how they play, unless their play lines up better with it, like really strongly. I doubt his crumb was fake nor with how Soup mentioned the second part with having to hit scum to keep his cop investigate.

My issue with how D1 went down at the end is a lot of people threw it in the toilet without really much thought about it. I wasn't against it solely because he claimed cop, I was against it because his play lined up better and looked far more likely to have been town with how he crumbed and what Soup said with the restriction he had. Gorf/Hetero/Circus/Pawn did not do this. Circus more so flip flopped and took no immediate action on the matter but point stands. A claim is part of someones play, a lot of players in this game would rather play a vanilla game and treat every game like it is a vanilla game.

Heck only reason I voted Soup close to deadline was because I thought nothing else was possible and wanted any flip over a NL.

bull****. if you were saying **** claims, youd be saying **** claims, not

**** claims. WELL no except this time cuz bard asked NICELY. maybe he DIDNT MEAN to burn his cop pm but we tortured a crumb out of him. slurp slurp rub it into my chest too

no. aint havin that **** and not about badull. best believe ima lynch dat ass ruy boy

 

[No Hetero]

nabey im going to perform STATEMENT ANALYSIS like you taught me

The issue is both follow, **** claims over raw play, so it's trying to distinguish if they were legit or not. With Gorf, I'm not really bothered with, I think he had a legit reason to be there.

this implies you dont follow **** claims

town should hardbody quicklynch ryu preferably before he even posts again

 

[No Hetero]

That's it? What about his #205 Where he votes KWK despite seeming to dislike Gorf more and his stance on KWK being mostly null.

@ #HBC | BadWolf What do you think of Gorf's D2 play? What do you think of J's play?



I have scum leans on Frito, Badwolf and minor one on Raz.

Like I said before Frito's wall against Circus seems reach-y to me, and its only valid point is that Circus didn't vote Bardull despite that seeming to be his intent.

Badwolf's push on KWK doesn't seem genuine to me. Most of his #205 where he votes KWK seems to focus on Gorf and when he quotes KWK on his suspicion of me he says that its "the right target, but the wrong reasons" Yet doesn't explain why he finds me scummy, or elaborates on why he thinks his reasons are wrong.

Raz is a minor scum lean, because of that F&L2 question. He asked us about Gorf's F&L2 play and was active while we responded and hasn't followed up on that yet, that question seems bad to me cause he suspects Gorf on his play being similar to F&L2 where he was scum, yet the two situations were different, not fair to compare at all and like I said before Gorf's alignment in that game had little to do with the specific logic Raz is talking about.

Your townread on Badwolf seems slightly suspicious to me, cause its entirely meta, and I'd look at your slot again if Badwolf is scum.

Vote: Badwolf

i hand you a gun with the condition that you can only shoot bwolf with it. do you draw and blow his head off or pistolwhip frito and how fast?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I need to finish a paper and get up at 8:00 AM so no posting from me til tomorrow.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

yo hold up. its RIGHT ****ING THERE in nabes posts today. its goddamn adorable the way he acts like hes not already pandering when he offers to tell you TWICE why ryu is obviously a drippy scumdump. here's the ONLY side of the story
read the mother****ing game

There's a difference between having your thoughts in responses and laying yourself out there. You know that. And yea, I usually don't hate on your playstyle (and I'm gonna do exactly what I don't want you to do but ayy what can I say we ain't in the same position) but your plays been whack yo. Cave if you're town, at least a little. If you're scum please keep playing exactly like you've been though, I'd appreciate it.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh also Ruy dead yet?

 

[Fandangox]

Also since this is basically useless where it is.

Unvote

wow terrible. Elaborate on how was it useless (two other people where voting him at the time) Why did you vote him? Why did you change your mind so quickly?

 

[Fandangox]

Fand - ok consolidated thoughts : it was bad reachy play that stunk of" let's kill bw because he sucks at this game but I'm not actually going to say that cause is scummy"

:

That seems like a reach to me.

 

[Fandangox]

i hand you a gun with the condition that you can only shoot bwolf with it. do you draw and blow his head off or pistolwhip frito and how fast?

(If you are asking if I'd rather have Badwolf lynch than frito toDay, then yes)

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

wow terrible. Elaborate on how was it useless (two other people where voting him at the time) Why did you vote him? Why did you change your mind so quickly?

Well since you idiots ruined the idea that it wasn't a serious vote, I thought there was no point to leaving it on him. IMO it wasn't worth trying to save the push. Was kinda a afterthought anyway :/

 

[Kantrip]

vote badwolf

 

[Circus]

prod dodge

i really should read and catch up and stuff because the next two days do not look good for me but i just can't bring myself to do it

so this is kind of like a semi-v/la thing and i never call v/la so s my d if you can't deal peace

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

vote badwolf

I love you and I hate you. Why pray tell are you voting me?

 

[#HBC | J]

Hey guys, just wanted to inform I had an unexpected V/LA because lol spring break shenanigans. I'll try and get back into things tomorrow(?). I have no idea what may happen but hopefully I can divulge some time into things.

I don't feel confident enough to post substantial things without being wrong somewhere so I am going to read up late but I am exhausted.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Don't hook up with frat boys j bby they're nothin but trouble

 

[Dooms]

@ NH:

You're defending the iso, not the slot. I'm the exact opposite. I think the iso is a really crappy push, but I feel the slot is town. You're saying that it's not a push, but the slot is scum. Unless you think that I dislike the fact that you're defending Ryu in general, then I don't see the similarity in our statements.

Okay. I'll admit that I completely missed both of those things and I will read over them.

I'll openly admit that I was just reading through posts I missed to gather thoughts, reread Raz 426, realized that I could see exactly what Raz was seeing and agreed with almost all of it, and I saw nothing wrong with the post in general, therefore it made me love the slot. Sorry if you don't feel the same way, but that's not going to change my read lol.

Town can throw away their PR, so saying "Unless he threw away his PR" and using that to justify your lynch is stupid. I didn't forget Bardull's play. I didn't find nearly as much of a problem with it as your slot & Gord did (which is why I didn't jump on the wagon right away), so I didn't have reason to just assume Soup's slot was 100% scum. I completely disagree with Soup not having town play, and he wasn't scrambling to save his slot. He was actually working with us and giving us information. An example would be with Kantrip. Why would he try to make me understand Kantrip's slot if he was just scrambling for a lynch that wasn't his own? Of course he didn't want to get lynched (why would our cop want to be lynched?), but you're just focused on something 100% null that doesn't matter. Of course people would be fine with hammering him at deadline, because anything > no lynch is something we've grown to believe in as a community. Don't even try to state that fact like it means anything at all, because it doesn't. If it meant anything in this scenario, then the slot would have easily been lynched over Pawn.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

That seems like a reach to me.

I'm not constructing a case nor even looking at him anymore. I just didn't like his first day play.

Speaking of which, now that I finally have a ****ing day off I'm going to be rereading and doing some stuff.

 

[Kantrip]

I love you and I hate you. Why pray tell are you voting me?

why do love and hate even play into this? what makes you love/hate me?

i already said why im voting you

youre ****ing scum

 

[Kantrip]

also good gorf that post was awkward from you

work on sounding more natural when you roll scum

@ Raziek could you answer the question i posed to you?

 

[Blindfolded Philosophers]

Forsooth!

I am really liking these new observations by Fandangox, though I'm not sure I agree with his conclusions. I don't really agree with those Raz conclusions either to be honest, but the new directions and impressions are refreshing.

Gorf's been better this day. I'm good with calling him a nulltown at this point. Very slight tho.

What about Gorf's play was better ToDay. Moreover what did you find bad about his play YesterDay to make it need improving?

The reasoning behind the KWK push was that he was:
1. Reaching his *** off. I explained this in my wall.
2. Bad reasoning
3. Subsequent blaming of bad reasoning on "being creative"
4. Wagon crasher
5. Really bad points.

...Okay 1,2, and 5 are all the same point, but go into 3 more. I think I know what you mean by it, but let's be sure you actually meant what I'm thinking you meant. Call it a... Blind test.

Oh I forgot this,

Vote: Frito

Slot's dead in every way but being dead.... Didn't really care for his D1 at all.

(If you want other reasons look at my D1, I have it spelled out there a couple of times.)

Why do you consider the slot already dead? And moreover if you think he's already dead why unvote just because someone disliked it?

I have something on tap here but talk to me about Badwolf first. I'm seeing talk about Raz kicking up the Pawn wagon last Day, but it was actually Badwolf who voted and generated the momentum. Did you notice / does that affect your reads?

I am to assume that what thine tap breweth hast been Ryu, yea? If so I find it a pleasurable ale. I await on baited breath Ryu's response to 648. Particularly because I find Circus has not done anything particularly redeeming that Ryu's push on him should stop had it ever been meant to be one. The plan for today initially was to try and get something out of Ryu to try and discern his alignment, but you seem to be already on that.