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Rake's Canadafia Over!! Nabe won through the power of Poutine

#HBC | J

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I have reads but nothing to present at the time. I'm not gonna fake things or just say things to say things.

P.S. Don't reveal who you would be investigating. It's not good cop play.
 

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I have reads but nothing to present at the time. I'm not gonna fake things or just say things to say things.

P.S. Don't reveal who you would be investigating. It's not good cop play.
well i wouldn't in a position where i wasn't even revealed but i feel it's good to garner suggestions and get opinions on my options
 

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A lynch has been reached!!


As the townies scoured the halls of parliament, they realized something strange, each of them had fishing hooks embedded in various parts of their bodies (some not nameable for the sake of the children around here O_O). They realized there were fish guts strewn about and a retched odor was wafting from one of them. Unable to stand it any longer, the Prime Minister stepped atop his mound of tax dollars and declared : "That retched man cannot possibly be here to do good. Beat him soundly about the head till he can no longer even comprehend what a fish is". The townies gathered their fists and made ready. They assaulted him mercilessly, all the while "I'm sorry" rang through the halls of parliament.

As the dust settled they stepped away from the bruised corpse,

Pawndidater (Raziek, The God Damn Maritimer (Province of Nova Scotia), Vanilla Townie), had been lynched!!!

Night 1 begins now and ends the 24th at 10:00 pm central time.

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As the townies arose from their drunken stupor from the night prior, they all noticed streaks of blood leading into the common area. The Prime Minister, brave in his resolve, hid behind the other provinces as they entered the room.

As they surveyed, a scream arose from Stephen Harper's mouth. He pointed, and slowly he formed the words "He's...he's...DEAD O_O" the provinces swung and gasped

Soup ( Kristoff, The Constantly In Danger Of Being Carjacked or Stabbed (Province of Manitoba), Town Adrenaline Cop )

had been brutally murdered (and possibly fondled).

Shocked, the provinces re grouped and banded together to search for the people responsible for these nefarious deeds in the great house of commons.

Day 2 begins now, and ends March 29th at midnight.

with 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

@J
@Blindfolded Philosophers
@ Raziek Raziek
@Friday Townie
@BadWolf28738
@No Hetero
@Fandangox
@Potassium
@Gorf
@ Circus Circus
@-Masquerain-
 
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Whoever is the doc, made a terrible call. Well, toDay is not totally fruitless in information. I am so glad D1 is short, I can get a re-read tonight have thoughts, but sad our cop/replacement is dead so soon.

(Switched from Toko to Chihiro, she is truly who I have been feeling this game)
 

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@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake Shun Goku Satsu Rake : Why was Circus left out of your tagging? Also how is it 11 to lynch when there are only 10 players alive?
 

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Yeah @ Raziek Raziek you said that those were very balid points, thus implying it was not a RVS vote, but when asked about it you said it was? So what is it? Why do you think his points are valid, or not depending on the context?
This is actually a good post. Making me scratch my head as to why this was shot down so fast by BP and KWK. Especially consdering this was Raz' response.

That was a joke. What he said was true, but it didn't actually matter because it was RVS nonsense.
Re-reading this game makes me not like Raz-chan at all.

You tend to make my head hurt in reads. Can I lynch you?
Haha, I even found my clue post for re-read me. Seems I was feeling it in the beginning but never enough to move forward. Wasn't it Raz who started the Pawn wagon? Need to re-confirm how he did as such.
 

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Then there is that odd flip by Joey again. That will give me pause until one of them flips. (mainly Joey)
 

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Gonna have to skim through D1 again probably, but my gut really doesn't like that No Hetero did that thing where he pushes hard on a wrong slot with no hesitation.
 

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I don't want Joey to be scum. I really don't. But more and more of me wants to push that slot.
 

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Gonna have to skim through D1 again probably, but my gut really doesn't like that No Hetero did that thing where he pushes hard on a wrong slot with no hesitation.
You see that too? With Soup's flip, they deserve more prodding. Something feels different this game though about their push onto Bardull.

Circus, can you talk to me about Joey/Raz?
 

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Will need to look into Joey. Raz I'm feeling alright about Raz at the moment, because I just reread the part where he kicks off the wagon against Pawn and it comes off looking townier then scummy because it specifically diverts attention from the soup wagon. If Raz were scum, he could have lobbed his vote onto soup under deadline duress and it wouldn't have looked that bad, which would have sealed our Cop as the lynch, saving scum the trouble of killing them. Could be scum with forsight, but the easier answer is that Raz really was just town-reading soup.
 

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You made a...case...? S-since...when do you do that? Plus that stops marshy from doing work himself.
@Gorf : We were talking about this earlier but the problem with not making marshy do more work is not having a paper trail and cues to his alignment when talking about his pushes. Yes, he pushed Bardull but not as harshly as you did. You have the case, he has the bravado. It's basically my way of saying (now that Bardull has flipped, and town at that) marshy has a way out. I don't like marshy having a way out. Trapping marshy is fun. So this is where I am not liking the fact you posted a "case" for him which is what it was regardless where you want to call it.
 

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Will need to look into Joey. Raz I'm feeling alright about Raz at the moment, because I just reread the part where he kicks off the wagon against Pawn and it comes off looking townier then scummy because it specifically diverts attention from the soup wagon. If Raz were scum, he could have lobbed his vote onto soup under deadline duress and it wouldn't have looked that bad, which would have sealed our Cop as the lynch, saving scum the trouble of killing them. Could be scum with forsight, but the easier answer is that Raz really was just town-reading soup.
I need to re-read into this then. I remember Raz just hopping on to pawn to hop on. If this is more the case, I may just be reading Raz with a dislike for his play rather than reading him as a scum-read.
 

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This is actually a good post. Making me scratch my head as to why this was shot down so fast by BP and KWK. Especially consdering this was Raz' response.

Re-reading this game makes me not like Raz-chan at all.

Haha, I even found my clue post for re-read me. Seems I was feeling it in the beginning but never enough to move forward. Wasn't it Raz who started the Pawn wagon? Need to re-confirm how he did as such.
Can you elaborate on this?

Particularly your profoundly vague second point?

I started the Pawn wagon as a fallback solely because, as Circus has correctly noted, I was strongly town-reading Soup/Bardull. I had that read developing as early as post 88 and made it clear during my catch-up.

I had nothing in particular against Pawn, but it was a slot that wasn't a strong-Town read who claimed Cop, and had minimal contribution. I looked at the 453 votecount, and saw that was the only lynch that was going to happen that wasn't Soup, because KWK was definitely not happening, nor would I want to lynch that slot, as it actually exists.
 

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I want to ask something of people here.

Gorf's play pertaining to Bardull, and especially his vote, looks EXACTLY to me like the logic he used to sit on me on F&L2 Day 2.

He as scum threw out some logic that while correct, is not something that could be defended against. In F&L2 it was incaps, here it was holding Soup accountable for Bardull's actions, despite the fact that Bardull's play was challenged.

@marshy / @No Hetero , @Fandangox , do either of you share this opinion?
 

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Sorry, half-complete thought due to 2:30 AM.

"... despite the fact that his points against Bardull's play were challenged by Soup and others."
 

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*waves hands alluringly to a better response*

Tell me why.
Early and mid-Day posts I found individually troubling from the slot. I could sit here and quote posts but I won't because I don't know yet if I want to push it toDay. Bardull rubbed me the wrong way too, as he did with many, and my statements against him and the way he played were all legitimate. But in addition to that, there were posts from Bardfull, particularly in the earlier part of the Day, that seemed to corroborate a suspicion I had that he and Frito could be scum together. I liked the Bardull wagon, and probably would have joined in order to get a lynch if I had been around for end of Day and the Pawn switch hadn't happened. But Frito was the one that I really wanted the whole time. I just didn't want him enough to bother fighting the momentum of a wagon that I also liked.
 

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Can you elaborate on this?

Particularly your profoundly vague second point?

I started the Pawn wagon as a fallback solely because, as Circus has correctly noted, I was strongly town-reading Soup/Bardull. I had that read developing as early as post 88 and made it clear during my catch-up.

I had nothing in particular against Pawn, but it was a slot that wasn't a strong-Town read who claimed Cop, and had minimal contribution. I looked at the 453 votecount, and saw that was the only lynch that was going to happen that wasn't Soup, because KWK was definitely not happening, nor would I want to lynch that slot, as it actually exists.
It's mainly the way you answer questions and also how you question people. It has no purpose or end-goal. You just ask things to ask them and that's about it. I mean, I can see the effort to be scum-hunting, but to truly get things out of you a person needs to guide you to them. I mean that not offensively but you seem to be the type of player that needs to be hand-held to get the best out of what you have to offer (if you are town). If you are scum, well it's transparent due to apparant meta people have on you so I just rely on that because it's more of a qualm I have on how you play this game which is why I am trying to look at things more. I mean, let's be fair, very few people weren't strongly town-reading Soup/Bardull. His claim+Soup's play was night and day.

Plus I guess I am a bit resentful towards the Pawn lynch because it was extremely cop-outty (ignore the pun, I swear). We gain hardly anything and there were much more insightful lynches on players who were not "present" and who actually had posts that we could drive things from. Pawn was at best a little sheepy but mainly inactive. That's what his play normally is. However, it was a quicklynch due to "welp can't lynch the cop" and I can't complain much, but I just wish we had a better lynch.
 

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But in addition to that, there were posts from Bardfull, particularly in the earlier part of the Day, that seemed to corroborate a suspicion I had that he and Frito could be scum together.
So does your scum-read on the slot dissipate a bit now that Bardull has flipped town?
 

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Let's not bother with this unless you actually want Badwolf dead. Would like to avoid thread-clog and distractions if possible.
You are way too buddy-able for me. I know you hate being buddied, but just let it happen.
 

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It's mainly the way you answer questions and also how you question people. It has no purpose or end-goal. You just ask things to ask them and that's about it. I mean, I can see the effort to be scum-hunting, but to truly get things out of you a person needs to guide you to them. I mean that not offensively but you seem to be the type of player that needs to be hand-held to get the best out of what you have to offer (if you are town). If you are scum, well it's transparent due to apparant meta people have on you so I just rely on that because it's more of a qualm I have on how you play this game which is why I am trying to look at things more. I mean, let's be fair, very few people weren't strongly town-reading Soup/Bardull. His claim+Soup's play was night and day.

Plus I guess I am a bit resentful towards the Pawn lynch because it was extremely cop-outty (ignore the pun, I swear). We gain hardly anything and there were much more insightful lynches on players who were not "present" and who actually had posts that we could drive things from. Pawn was at best a little sheepy but mainly inactive. That's what his play normally is. However, it was a quicklynch due to "welp can't lynch the cop" and I can't complain much, but I just wish we had a better lynch.
I don't think I agree with the bolded at all. He was GOING to be lynched, had I not swung it away from him.
Ask a question then as to what you want from my read on Wolfy. There are multiple ways I can go.
I'd just like a general explanation. Maybe an examination of what you liked about his large post of content that he made mid-way through the day. I like to build reads by comparing thought processes and seeing if something doesn't line up with how I view it.

I'm asking you for your read because I want to compare it to mine.
 

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Let's not bother with this unless you actually want Badwolf dead. Would like to avoid thread-clog and distractions if possible.
If you don't think it necessary, then fine, but do you have another pressing direction it would be distracting FROM at the moment?
 

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@ Raziek Raziek : I got it! I have figured out how I can help you. You have played the Phoenix Wright games correct? You basically "press" all the wrong points in a person's testimony but someone needs to be your "helper *a.k.a. Maya/Athena/Apollo/Mia/Phoenix* to help you get to the crucial bit of the testimony. I hope that helps you understand where I am coming from in explaining that. It makes your questions look fluffy and not relevant. Curreent example: You question my town-read on Wolfy. It pertains nothing to my scum-reads or your own: so why ask it? The tangent would not help town unless you believe a possible J+Wolfy scum-team and the conversation would be able to help you connect us stronger.
 
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