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PootisKonga said:
I dunno about thinking, but isn't learning what and what not to say or do called "learning your manners?"

I respect your side, believe me, I know how infuriating it is to be caught in a huge PC bubble, but if there was a way of saying something without being rude to other people even indirectly why wouldn't you just take it?


Eh, slice of life stuff doesn't usually appeal to me unless I'm in that specific mood. Otherwise I'd look deeper into it. Shonen, however, is full of action, which is admittedly what I crave in all forms of writing.
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Shokugeki is not slice of life

The english name is literally Food Wars.

They legitimately fight in coocking competions with food porn, it's ****ing amazing
 
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Umbreon said:
it depends. on one hand, acting in a specific way on your own in accordance with your own moral standing is awesome and i fully support that. on the other hand, i think it crosses that line when you tell other people how to think, how to speak, how to act. if you don't like how other people are... just go away from them. you have the option to remove yourself from the situation. even if you think i have no class, it's not your job to take it upon yourself to change that.
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Have you ever interacted with another human being before, Umbreon?

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PootisKonga said:
I dunno about thinking, but isn't learning what and what not to say or do called "learning your manners?"

I respect your side, believe me, I know how infuriating it is to be caught in a huge PC bubble, but if there was a way of saying something without being rude to other people even indirectly why wouldn't you just take it?
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thats indefensible, but that's also not really what i'm trying to address. you see from your own point of view, and always have since the day you were born. people are very egocentric in the very literal way, not as like a slam or anything but You are you. if you say "i want to live to this higher standard for myself" then total props, and that's what your statement addresses. but if you see someone that is not_you doing something that you don't like, it's not really your responsibility to tell them how to live their life, and frankly it's often quite offensive to do so, even moreso than the original infringement to begin with. this is a bit of a strawman, but i'll use it anyway to make the point a bit clearer- we don't tell bums to bathe more, but if you're a bum and you want to bathe more, well good for you and i'll support that. "learning your manners" also includes knowing when to step back and to have the grace to understand that not everyone wants to be like your ideal and it's not your business to push your ideals onto someone else. "you" generalized here to make a point, not you specifically.

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Have you ever interacted with another human being before, Umbreon?
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most people i talk to dislike me at first and then learn to appreciate my intellectual candor. i have no shortage of friends.
 
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Umbreon said:
thats indefensible, but that's also not really what i'm trying to address. you see from your own point of view, and always have since the day you were born. people are very egocentric in the very literal way, not as like a slam or anything but You are you. if you say "i want to live to this higher standard for myself" then total props, and that's what your statement addresses. but if you see someone that is not_you doing something that you don't like, it's not really your responsibility to tell them how to live their life, and frankly it's often quite offensive to do so, even moreso than the original infringement to begin with. this is a bit of a strawman, but i'll use it anyway to make the point a bit clearer- we don't tell bums to bathe more, but if you're a bum and you want to bathe more, well good for you and i'll support that. "learning your manners" also includes knowing when to step back and to have the grace to understand that not everyone wants to be like your ideal and it's not your business to push your ideals onto someone else. "you" generalized here to make a point, not you specifically.
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when a random melee player thinks he could just win against the pm gimmicks





I suck at this someone help me do a funny on the internet
 
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Only a pseudo intellectual libertarian would be against a functioning society where people respect each other to a minimal degree. Knowing a lot about Smash doesn't necessarily carry over into any other area of life.

And honestly calling someone you just disagree with mentally abnormal is not just bad manners, it's a very disingenuous and nonsense tactic that should be called out every time you use it. If people don't want to be called out for it than that is too bad, the price of debating other people.
 
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One time I was pooping at school, and there was another guy pooping in the stall beside me. He was mouthbreathing super hard the whole time, and was getting louder and louder until I heard but a splash in the toilet bowl. He was quiet then, but would just start up again until another plop was produced. We were the only ones in the bathroom this whole time, it was really awkward but hilarious.
 
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Soft Serve said:
Early aerials though?
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Most are often locked behind the gate of difficulty. So much so that they're completely unexplored.
[and people don't think some exist after every version I have to reprove, Lucario http://smashboards.com/threads/lucaryu-official-discussion-thread.331668/page-18#post-18169875
Squirtle http://smashboards.com/threads/squirtle-squad-general-disc.331682/page-48#post-18145667
Ike http://smashboards.com/threads/ike-social-thread.331713/page-22#post-17981015 (this one I guess is still a secret, I'll keep it that way for now)]
You don't see Diddys doing any of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj6qxfqx8GI#t=21
or Marths any of the Bair to something (and SH Fair Nair/Dair/Bair) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gyIS-HdUgw
or almost anything in any of the two Early Aerial videos
Eventually I'm making a MK specific early aerial video

I theorize weekly if 1 frame of buffer would unlock the gate for the good or bad; bad being now when someone does them they are less amazing. [there's a point in these challenges to gather info, but that's farther down the Smash continuum. path]
Actually yeah let me post one of my many maliciously well thought out Skype jabberings

[12/9/2014 3:06:19 PM] GMaster171: iirc theres a "dead frame" where you are airborne but not moving, before you start
[12/9/2014 3:06:29 PM] James Madway (SpiderMad): but that's only one frame
[12/9/2014 3:06:40 PM | Edited 3:06:51 PM] James Madway (SpiderMad): well, two or possibly more if you consider going for a frame perfect aerial
[12/9/2014 3:06:58 PM] GMaster171: maybe it was that close in Melee
[12/9/2014 3:07:04 PM] James Madway (SpiderMad): because of MElee's height reduction on instant aerials/specials
[12/9/2014 3:07:09 PM] GMaster171: I highly doubt frame data is off
[12/9/2014 3:07:22 PM] James Madway (SpiderMad): you'd be sapriesed
[12/9/2014 3:07:47 PM] James Madway (SpiderMad): which is a good thing
[12/9/2014 3:08:05 PM] James Madway (SpiderMad): hence watch the video of Marth stuff u can't do in Melee again
[12/9/2014 3:09:04 PM] James Madway (SpiderMad): That's why I love mechanics, some you have to debate and use years over to tell which one you should go with
[12/9/2014 3:10:11 PM] James Madway (SpiderMad): Do I want jumps to feel more like Melee or the unlocked potential of hundreds of new Early aerials? Did Melee's first airborn frmae jump height reduction have any use etc.?
[12/9/2014 3:10:47 PM | Edited 3:11:01 PM] James Madway (SpiderMad): Then there's things like Brawl's landing detection, there's definetly some benefits in there you discover somewhat quickly in the first PM demo; but overall it's sooo bad
[12/9/2014 3:14:45 PM | Edited 3:23:27 PM] James Madway (SpiderMad): Should the game allow 1 frame of buffer? Making 1 frame links into 2 frame links: thus making them into the realm of realistly consistent? Was Brawl/Smash 4l and other fighters with Buffer going the right direction (Well not anywhere decent with 10 freakin frames)? Or do we value things because they're hard, and when someone pulls it off (though sparingly, and no one uses the 1 frame link double aerials I can tell you that not even Axe) in a clutch match or something we want that to all to remain super impressive. Does Melee not having RAR add extra depthful instances of decision making? And of course light press air dodge http://smashboards.com/threads/a-di...ad-thing-health-related.360937/#post-17071426 (well not really, becuase both forms have their benefits it's really about just having both/option to pick; where other mechanics I was talking about you can't have both. But just in at least what ARE the benefits and downfalls)


~Dad~ said:
Hey Spidermad I did a thing again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seaKgv4jHdE

I'm so happy I can still do this without the fsmash momentum bug :')
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You sure did. How did the Wolf thing go? I also watched that reddit match you posted, and I pronounce you and Bursny the only two objectively rad Squirtles; and everyone else super sucks.
 
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SpiderMad said:
You sure did. How did the Wolf thing go? I also watched that reddit match you posted, and I pronounce you and Bursny the only two objectively rad Squirtles; and everyone else super sucks.
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I totally forgot to do the wolf thing, also I didn't post a match to Reddit, somebody else must have.

*Everybody super sucks at Squirtman though.
 
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~Dad~ said:
I totally forgot to do the wolf thing, also I didn't post a match to Reddit, somebody else must have.

*Everybody super sucks at Squirtman though.
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I know, you're all going to make Oro ride himself harder than he ever has before when and if he does accomplish winning a Midwest regional with Squirtle
 
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Binary Clone said:
You know what makes early aerials a lot easier?

Z jump.
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A few people say that, but I always felt when you go for the actual hard ones: you're probly going to get JC grab. And beyond that A is already Magnifico so you don't need Z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLklmmYyNk#t=40 .

Like I'm pretty certain I could once again link you some of the harder early aerials, and your Z method would crack harder under the pressure than a Xylophone in a balor.
 
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SpiderMad said:
A few people say that, but I always felt when you go for the actual hard ones: you're probly going to get JC grab. And beyond that A is already Magnifico so you don't need Z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLklmmYyNk#t=40 .

Like I'm pretty certain I could once again link you some of the harder early aerials, and your Z method would crack harder under the pressure than a Xylophone in a compressor.
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Why? All it amounts to is less thumb movement. The Z press is neither difficult nor unreliable.

EDIT: In case it's unclear, I'm talking about binding Z to jump.
 
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mimgrim said:
I find Z set to attack attack overall better. Z set to jump makes WDing/JCcrap more annoying to do.
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I found it to be better once I got used to it. So long as it doesn't personally bother you to use Z to jump (it tires out some people's index fingers or is just uncomfortable, etc.), I haven't really found a substantial downside to using it.
 
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Binary Clone said:
Why? All it amounts to is less thumb movement. The Z press is neither difficult nor unreliable.
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When you're going for the ones that require frame perfect aerials (1st airborn frame aerials), you're like one frame away from getting a JC grab if you mess up doing it too early. Beyond again, A being 100% fine when you use X to A with thumb. C-stick is obviously almost out of the question unless you claw (for 1st airborn frame aerials).

You gotta prove it to me that you can do and record these (it tests instant aerial waveland, instant aerial aerial, and instant aerial to two consecutive aerials [apparently like four one frame links in a row or something])
Do SH Fair WL three times in a row with Squirtle
SH Fair Dair (hitbox out) with Lucario two times in a row
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLklmmYyNk#t=248
SH Bair DJ Nair Bair once with Ike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcTZ8l7gjIQ&list=UUC_duOivBOekU6LS3_8w25A

But spidermad, I don't own a cellphone because I live in mesopatamia. Well I can tell you right now you do own that cellphone, and you can make your Fullset save working replays to phone after you accomplish them by holding in the analog just before the hard press when you plug in your controller (any sensing of the analog is what ruins the replays in the Fullset). Then just hold that phone in front of your TV while you play the replay.
 
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Hey spidermad since you're since you're going to have 20+ links in your next post anyways, can you give me the link to the playlist you had of mango's stream? The one where he analyzed his matches from MLG?
 
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How do you get a JC grab with Z jump if you're trying to do an aerial? It's not like I'd hit the Y button to grab accidentally or something
 
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PootisKonga said:
How do you get a JC grab with Z jump if you're trying to do an aerial? It's not like I'd hit the Y button to grab accidentally or something
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Do the challenges I linked, I'm thinking you guys obviously seem to haven't tried to use it for very early aerials (did you try the SH Bair AC with Fox in PM?). This is how JC grab works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtOSf5iZhnY#t=190

[Frames]
Jumpsquat [Jump with whateva button]
1
2
3
4 [ for whoever this character is who has a 4 frame jumpsquat, he'll be airnborn on frame 5]
[ Input Aerial with Z on frame 4]
5- Air born , Performs Aerial on First airborn frame

Jumpsquat
1
2
3 [Input Z on frame 3, rather than on 4 like the above example]
4 Cancels Jumpsquat with grab
5- You're now doing a JC grab

Ramz289 said:
Hey spidermad since you're since you're going to have 20+ links in your next post anyways, can you give me the link to the playlist you had of mango's stream? The one where he analyzed his matches from MLG?
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Could you please comment what the name of each video should be after you're done watching any? Like in the video itself, or make a list or something; and any periods of time I should cut-out like him playing LoL.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLovBMkMLex7wGkq-0RxS3NR6tMouIolPK
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLovBMkMLex7x26W4D8ejP6vWrCOdPr8s1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLovBMkMLex7x44zkyz2mjoKc1Ok9_Eqt6
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLovBMkMLex7xRRJEvbhTp0DB_u1tbShZS
 
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SpiderMad said:
Do the challenges I linked, I'm thinking you guys obviously seem to haven't tried to use it for very early aerials (did you try the SH Bair AC with Fox in PM?). This is how JC grab works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtOSf5iZhnY#t=190

[Frames]
Jumpsquat [Jump with whateva button]
1
2
3
4 [Jumpsquat ends for whatever whoever this character is]
5- Air born [ Input Aerial with Z], Performs Aerial on First airborn frame

Jumpsquat
1
2
3
4 [Input Aerial with Z] Cancels Jumpsquat with grab
5- You're now doing a JC grab
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And jumping with Z affects this how? I just attack with A once I'm out of jumpsquat and actually airborne, right?
 
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Can't: family's got a hold of the television at the moment

And how does Z jump affect it? I'm curious, is there more input lag or something weird, like how Z-DACUS used to reduce the frame window by 1?
 
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