Platform Cancelling On Dreamland

[Dan$inyi]

This is a guide on how to platform cancel with every character on dreamlands platforms.
If anyone has anything that can be added to this guide, please comment and i will add the info in.

Luigi

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- SH with control stick
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- SH with control stick
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Full jump with control stick
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Full jump with control stick


Mario

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- SH with control stick
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- Full hop with C
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Double Jump
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Double Jump

DK

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- Short Hop with C
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- N/A
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Double Jump
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Double Jump

Link

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- SH with control stick
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- Full hop with control stick, sliding the stick from the lower left/right to the side of the octogan
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Double Jump
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Double Jump


Samus

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- N/A
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- N/A
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Quickly double jump
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Quickly double jump


Falcon

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- SH with control stick
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- N/A
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Double Jump
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Double Jump

Ness

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- Softly press up on the control stick or just time your DJC correctly
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- Full hop with control stick, sliding the stick from the lower left/right to the side of the octogan
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Time your DJC correctly
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Time your DJC correctly

Yoshi (Same as ness)

Kirby

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- Full hop with control stick, sliding the stick from the lower left/right to the side of the octogan
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- Full hop with C
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Double Jump
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Double Jump


Fox

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- SH with control stick
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- Quickly full hop with the control stick using the side of the octogan
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Flick the control stick up, then immediately SH with C
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Flick the control stick up, then immediately SH with C


Pikachu

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- SH with control stick
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- Quickly SH with control stick using the side of the octogan
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Flick the control stick up, then immediately SH with C
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Flick the control stick up, then immediately SH with C


Jigglypuff

•Left & Right Platforms (Standing)
- SH with control stick
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- Full hop with C (Doesn't cancel perfectly)
•Middle Platform (Standing)
- Double Jump
•Middle Platform (Running)
- Double Jump

All data was recorded on the US version using the N64 Console with an N64 controller.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

I don't get it... is this supposed to say what jump height you need? If so, keep in mind that when you jump with the control stick, you can jump anywhere between a short-hop and a full-hop (so this means you can mid-hop, for want of a better term).

 

[th3kuzinator]

@BY, I think he is doing this for keyboard players.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

you can't short-hop control stick. Otherwise, I wouldn't be complaining about no shorthop online

 

[Sangoku]

Didn't know it was possible to short hop with joystick on keyboard.

And I didn't get it either =/.

 

[blaze3927]

you can do a slightly higher than shorthop jump with an analog stick...so a short stick hop.
this is just a guide to like do the samllest possible jump but still be able to attack and land on the platform, like dk does when he shorthops onto a dreamland platform, he can perform an aerial and almost immediatley perform another.

 

[ciaza]

Ohhhhhhhhh I get it. I was thinking he was talking about drop cancelling or some s*it.

 

[Dan$inyi]

I don't get it... is this supposed to say what jump height you need? If so, keep in mind that when you jump with the control stick, you can jump anywhere between a short-hop and a full-hop (so this means you can mid-hop, for want of a better term).

Its listing what kind of jumps to use in order to platform cancel, the player can figure out the heights.

@BY, I think he is doing this for keyboard players.

I guess keyboard players are SOL here.

 

[3mmanu3lrc]

Ohhhhhhhhh I get it. I was thinking he was talking about drop cancelling or some s*it.

That's what I thought when I first read the tittle.

Anyway, does it need to be Z-Canceled, W/ or W/O an aerial?
I've never tried that without pressing Z for canceling my aerials, does it produce any lag if not canceled?
I can't test right now. <_<

 

[Dan$inyi]

That's what I thought when I first read the tittle.

Anyway, does it need to be Z-Canceled, W/ or W/O an aerial?
I've never tried that without pressing Z for canceling my aerials, does it produce any lag if not canceled?
I can't test right now. <_<

Yes they do need to be z-canceled, unless you use an aerial that cancels itself automatically after a certain amount of time. Luigis d-air for example.

 

[Tambor]

If I understand the point of this guide correctly, Falcon's should say:
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- Full hop with C

Anyways, I'd say this isn't the kind of thing you learn from a guide.

 

[3mmanu3lrc]

I was about to say/write/post something like that, these are things we see when we play (even by accident)
I just made the Z-canceling quiestion, because I always press Z to cancel my moves even when there's no need to, as DK's Fair?

 

[SilentSlayers]

If I understand the point of this guide correctly, Falcon's should say:
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- Full hop with C

Anyways, I'd say this isn't the kind of thing you learn from a guide.

I thought the same thing... What the heck...

 

[Dan$inyi]

If I understand the point of this guide correctly, Falcon's should say:
•Left & Right Platforms (Running)
- Full hop with C

Anyways, I'd say this isn't the kind of thing you learn from a guide.

Full hop with C does not ledge cancel on the left and right platforms with falcon

 

[P D]

FINALLY SOMEONE DID THIS

lol seriously great thread, thank you for the guide

 

[SilentSlayers]

Full hop with C does not ledge cancel on the left and right platforms with falcon

We are talking about while running, which it does work.

 

[Dan$inyi]

We are talking about while running, which it does work.

I tested it. It is fast but it doesnt ledge cancel perfectly, meaning there is no hangtime in between jumping and landing on the platform.

 

[Tambor]

I tested it. It is fast but it doesnt ledge cancel perfectly, meaning there is no hangtime in between jumping and landing on the platform.

I thought ledge canceling meant, err, canceling something at a ledge.
Most of those you listed don't platform cancel perfectly, using your definition of it. And I see Luigi's full hop to the middle platform as way worse than what I listed for Falcon. Also, Falcon does get both hits of a fair and it works wonders for combos.

 

[Dan$inyi]

I thought ledge canceling meant, err, canceling something at a ledge.
Most of those you listed don't platform cancel perfectly, using your definition of it. And I see Luigi's full hop to the middle platform as way worse than what I listed for Falcon. Also, Falcon does get both hits of a fair and it works wonders for combos.

Everything on the list ledge cancels perfectly. Luigis full hop with the control stick does cancel perfectly on the middle platform, you just have to use the full potential of your jump. Some cancels like marios running on the left and right dont require specific timing.His cancel on the middle platform on the other hand requires specific timing on the double jump. Yes falcons fair works good on the left and right platforms but it doesnt ledge cancel perfectly, that is why I cant add that to the list

 

[3mmanu3lrc]

@Dan$inyi The thing is that these type of things are not for a Gude, maybe tips for low lvl.

 

[HellxBound]

Thanks for doing this, it's useful simply because it brings platform cancelling to the front of my mind. I'll now play (for the next few days at least) with the mindset of being careful with my jumps to increase my playspeed.

 

[Dan$inyi]

Implementing platform cancelling into your game will lengthen your combos and also help you learn new ways to combo that youve never thought would work =]

 

[Dan$inyi]

btw i saw like 8 guide threads about clans >_>

 

[Blue Yoshi]

They've all been closed, moved, or something. But yeah, adding "guide" to a clan thread...

 

[3mmanu3lrc]

@Dan$inyi IMO Tips for this thread title would have been more appropriate than guide.

Also, just for future references, try avoiding double+ posting.