Monster Mafia - Game Over! Was the Beast slain, or did evil overcome?

[Lore]

*bangs head against the ****in wall*

Hey town, do I have to answer all that? If anyone other than Giraffes wants me to, I will.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

@ Lore :

1. You were asking a question I already asked. You never asked it at first. Therefore, you were faking content. If you have agreed with my question initially, then you may have had points to your favor. Yet your first post was vague.
2. You never cared to ask Jerkus at first either (you had plenty of time to ask), you only said so to seem town because Zen reminded you by asking Jerkus for the reasoning. Why were you actively focused on Jerkus/Zen and not Macman/Gorf/Gheb?
3. He only had 3 votes on him by the time you entered. One more wouldn't have hurt, and this isn't a newbie game. Players know what to do when their wagon is at full steam. This is not a good excuse for you not to vote. Your excuse also doesn't excuse you from giving a concrete stance on BardulL. (From "I guess he might be scum" to "I think he is scum")
4. Refer to point 1. You specifically said his post was weird, not that he should have explained why he was voting Zen. So this shows you didn't know what was weird, you were just going along with it because he seemed to be a popular candidate. You then asked this to add onto your 'that's a weird post bardull' assertion. You should have been more specific originally.



Says the guy voting scary for lol reasons. Yo are you going to actually explain that? Who else is scum?

Your bad if you think I think Scary is scum

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Stop talking and start thinking Giraffe

 

[Ilovegiraffes]

Your bad if you think I think Scary is scum

Then who is scum?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Werekill, Ran's all about scum reads because of his perspective or opinion on why you'd do something, once he's decided how he'll take it that's how he takes it, as Gheb says he believes what he posted to be the truth, that being said, is Ran misinterpreting you DIRECTLY scummy, would you vote Giraffe over it ? Or do you think it's a misinterpretation that you should keep trying to explain ?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Vote Count

1. Nabe
2. Gorf
3. Jerkus (Circus/J) (1) - th3kuzinator
4. FrozenFlame (3) - ScaryLB59, BarDulL, Zack Fair
5. Macman
6. BarDulL (3) - Gorf, Gheb_01, Jerkus
7. Ilovegiraffes (Red Ryu/Ranmaru) (1) - Nabe
9. ScaryLB59 (1) - FullMetalLynch,
10. Gheb_01
11. Xatres
12. FullMetalLynch (Rake/Orboknown)
13. x WaNtEd x
14. Werekill (2) - Ilovegiraffes, Macman
15. Zack Fair

Not voting: FrozenFlame, Xatres, X WaNtEd X

 

[Ilovegiraffes]

Mod: I'm not voting Wanted anymore. Nabe is voting me.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

your also not voting two people unless you have a double vote

 

[Lore]

Werekill, Ran's all about scum reads because of his perspective or opinion on why you'd do something, once he's decided how he'll take it that's how he takes it, as Gheb says he believes what he posted to be the truth, that being said, is Ran misinterpreting you DIRECTLY scummy, would you vote Giraffe over it ? Or do you think it's a misinterpretation that you should keep trying to explain ?

After that series of questions, I can believe that he actually believes what he was saying was true. It isn't scummy to be completely wrong without malicious intent.

That being said, if he keeps doing it I'll start seeing him as scum. Fool me once, etc.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Mod: I'm not voting Wanted anymore. Nabe is voting me.

Sorry my mistake. Fixed.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

And im not sure how ff is voting himself since i dont even remember him posting

 

[Lore]

Wait FF is actually in this game? I thought it was a joke vote against a player not on the game. Oops! I must have missed his name completely.

 

[Lore]

*not in the game

 

[FullMetalLynch]

@ScaryLB59 LOL get fooled Scary. There is no korean bbq hydra.

@ #HBC | Mac Because they already got enough love.

Pri sure there is.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Wait FF is actually in this game? I thought it was a joke vote against a player not on the game. Oops! I must have missed his name completely.

Frozen is actually in the game

 

[FullMetalLynch]

he is and he hasnt even posted so unless thats a mod vote

 

[Lore]

he is and he hasnt even posted so unless thats a mod vote

I'm pretty sure a few people still have their little votes on him. They just never unvoted.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

After that series of questions, I can believe that he actually believes what he was saying was true. It isn't scummy to be completely wrong without malicious intent.

That being said, if he keeps doing it I'll start seeing him as scum. Fool me once, etc.

Even without malicious intent ? Can you make a distinction for me then ? Would you be voting Ran SPECIFICALLY because he's wrong about you and refusing to take his blinders off, or would you be voting him when you no longer feel like he's not misinterpreting you maliciously, also, what would you say is the line between non malicious and malicious intent

 

[Ilovegiraffes]

That being said, if he keeps doing it I'll start seeing him as scum. Fool me once, etc.

I haven't stopped, because you know, you haven't even responded to my accusations.

And im not sure how ff is voting himself since i dont even remember him posting

looool. He couldn't take the pressure. seriously tho. who is scum. Unless you only have town reads right now?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

I understand the fool me once bit but I want you to be more aggressive and tell me the line Giraffe would have to cross to get a vote from you.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Who needs scum reads when you have an abundance of town reads. Push comes to shove we'll POE it

 

[FullMetalLynch]

the only people i care to see posting now would be nabe, xatres, kuzi and wanted. I understand people are trying to make stuff happen but it's very obvious Werekill isn't scum and Bardull isn't scum either unless you think he's decided to try being bat **** crazy just because lol why not

 

[Lore]

I understand the fool me once bit but I want you to be more aggressive and tell me the line Giraffe would have to cross to get a vote from you.

He would have to continue to straight up lie and misrepresent me. I understand not being able to take blinders off (as Kuz can attest...), but lying shouldn't be a part of that.

Continued lying would equal malicious intent, to me. It would be purposefully bending the facts to make me look worse, which implies him wanting the town to see me as worse and lynch me. That's malicious intent to me.

 

[Lore]

On giraffes still:

The same goes for him doing it to anyone else. It's bad no matter what.

 

[Ilovegiraffes]

@ Lore

Besides bardull, who is scum? What are your reads on Macman, Gorf, and FullMetalLynch?

@ FullMetalLynch

Ok.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

too many ppl got my name in they mouths... you gotta realize even im scum i shan't be lynched till atleast day 3 cuz im just so valuable for town

vote: werekill i'm probably gonna scumread this slot all game so might as well get him out of here... yo ilovegiraffess, are you a hydra? how come you don't love otters or sloths?

zen y u so posty, what you tryna compensate for eh??????? (u town tho)

awe c'mon mac. really? werekill?

Werekill, Ran's all about scum reads because of his perspective or opinion on why you'd do something, once he's decided how he'll take it that's how he takes it, as Gheb says he believes what he posted to be the truth, that being said, is Ran misinterpreting you DIRECTLY scummy, would you vote Giraffe over it ? Or do you think it's a misinterpretation that you should keep trying to explain ?

comma comma comma comma comma comma comma comma comma comma comma comma

but aside from that this is precisely correct, and the exact reason why, @ Lore , for as long as i shamelessly defend you so you stay alive, you will be getting away with answering exactly zero of giraffe's posts that you feel may be extensive.

the only people i care to see posting now would be nabe, xatres, kuzi and wanted. I understand people are trying to make stuff happen but it's very obvious Werekill isn't scum and Bardull isn't scum either unless you think he's decided to try being bat **** crazy just because lol why not

decided to be bat**** crazy cuz lol why not? have you ever read kantrip's dk maf? oh and also did it ever occur to you that maybe he's faking comfort cuz rvs, and faking aggression cuz... ****ing rvs?

 

[Lore]

@ Lore

Besides bardull, who is scum? What are your reads on Macman, Gorf, and FullMetalLynch?

@ FullMetalLynch

Ok.

I'm actually feeling less solid about Bardull; he may have actually believed that it was rvs. Maybe after a reread I'll come around on it again, but meh.

Mac is actually my top pick right now, although that isn't really saying much. I really don't like how he came out of nowhere and voted me for a completely dumb reason when plenty of other people were FOSing too.

Gorf seems pretty chill, I haven't seen anything really questionable from him quite yet. Both him and FML are calling me town a good bit, which could either be just town defending town or scum defending town to look better.

HOWEVER that last bit is something that will only come up late in the game, not now. There's nothing at all making me think they're scum at the moment.

 

[Lore]

After a short reread I feel that mac may not have been voting me for just the fos bit, which makes me curious.

@ #HBC | Mac why exactly did you vote for me?

 

[Jerkus]

So I don't know if I declared it officially but J side will be VLA till at least Thursday because of cross country road trip and if someone could post it in the mini or social for me, I'd be really appreciative.

Just posting to say because I find the WK push bad and he is really town. People who are pushing it should feel bad. *cough* @ #HBC | Mac *cough*

I have no scum-reads at the moment and only really people who can die. I'm content though because I am beginning to garner town-reads rather quickly but would like to discuss it with the other sexy side of myself.

Id really like to post more and get my feet into the game but I can only phone post like this when I'm not driving.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

gotta stay away from drunken posting

@ Lore the FOS thing was mostly a gut reaction to ZEN's billions of FOSes

i was prolly asked other qs but the long n short is i got no real reads and i'm hungover af,

though i prolly will think werekill is scum for days, curious why ppl are town readin him?

 

[Jerkus]

A better question would be why do you scum-read him? Like you keep saying you will find him scum for days but what about his play makes you feel that way?

But please answer when not intoxicated/hungover. =P

 

[Lore]

@ #HBC | Mac So the fos thing was directed to everyone who did and not just me? I retract my statements then, although I still find it odd that you haven't explained why you find me scummy.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

haha honestly i was reading dudes posts and thinking he's either scum or has a playstyle i can't **** with so I should try to lynch him

but right now I can't really remember any of his posts other than the one where he asked bardull about his posts

in order to remember what was goin through my head i gotta recreate the scenario and reread the last 2 pages to

anyways I haven't looked at anything srsly and now i feel kinda bad for the potential derail of this thread / game

 

[#HBC | Mac]

nah I was saying everyone who FOSes is whack af cuz real ****** vote ppl

 

[Lore]

haha honestly i was reading dudes posts and thinking he's either scum or has a playstyle i can't **** with so I should try to lynch him

-snip-

anyways I haven't looked at anything srsly and now i feel kinda bad for the potential derail of this thread / game

That's an... Interesting statement. I suppose I'm fine with it since you admitted that you haven't really read anything seriously. I'll reform my opinion after you actually do that.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

oh i agree that he's got a playstyle not to be ****ed wit but like we can't chastise someone for that unless they're like breaking the game. rake's and ruy's would be lynched every d1 with that logic.

 

[Lore]

oh i agree that he's got a playstyle not to be ****ed wit but like we can't chastise someone for that unless they're like breaking the game. rake's and ruy's would be lynched every d1 with that logic.

What do you mean by that? I'm not calling you out or anything; I'm legitly asking. If I'm playing badly somehow, I'd love to have any critique so I can improve.

 

[#HBC | J]

You aren't, people sometimes just dislike others play styles. Like I dislike Gheb's nearly every game but that's just how he plays.

It's merely a difference of opinion WK. Wait till after the game is over to ask for critique and be forewarned about it too.

^how are people reading WK as scum? *smh* Really like uuuugh.

 

[Jerkus]

Drat I was doing so well. Please don't hate me circus swords haha

You aren't, people sometimes just dislike others play styles. Like I dislike Gheb's nearly every game but that's just how he plays.

It's merely a difference of opinion WK. Wait till after the game is over to ask for critique and be forewarned about it too.

^how are people reading WK as scum? *smh* Really like uuuugh.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

What do you mean by that? I'm not calling you out or anything; I'm legitly asking. If I'm playing badly somehow, I'd love to have any critique so I can improve.

re: j's response. basically not liking somebody's style is separate from deducing somebody's alignment.