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Except that is from Warioware... the half of his ~14 games that people are upset at being everything for Wario despite him being a face for it more than an actual active part of it.
While that is true, Ashley isn't from the Wario Land games, she's from WarioWare, which seems to be Wario's only form of representation for his own series (besides relation to the Mario sub-series). Wario Land content remains hopelessly abysmal.
Ya its still a Wario "thing" ,but DK is one of the "most popular" and at the same time "least recognized" franchises in Smash no matter which way you cut it. It has been that way since melee. I realize its not the only one neglected like Metroid, but still Metroid has 2 Assist Trophies in this game and Samus was good enough in Sakurai's eyes to make her 2 different unique characters. DK just hasn't got noticeable love from Sakurai besides Kremlings in Smash Run. That is just my opinion, but no denying that Donkey Kong being in the top popular and money making Nintendo franchises, has been more ignored than not.. for unknown reasons..unlike Pokemon, Legend of Zelda, Mario, and Kirby or Fire Emblem some would argue. Just puzzles me.
Sadly a fair bit of it being how much DK as a series was tied to the glory of the 4 Rareware titles. The fact that the Returns games only affected this by getting a stage is a problem.
But that is still so questionable. K. Rool was in mario sluggers, a 100% rareware created character. And so was... diddy kong... ... ... and... funky kong... *mario kart wii*, and ... all the kongs ... .
I don't think the rareware thing is the bigger deal at this point.
Not only that, but I figured since Namco was all over Sluggers, they would *wink wink* *nudge nudge*, go ahead and put King K in Smash Bros as well. Who knows maybe they talked about King K. RoOl before they game came out and couldn't finish him in time or Sakurai didn't see him as unique enough or something...But that is still so questionable. K. Rool was in mario sluggers, a 100% rareware created character. And so was... diddy kong... ... ... and... funky kong... *mario kart wii*, and ... all the kongs ... .
Except that Nintendo owns the full rights to those characters and the people chosen for Mario Spin-offs has a significantly different criteria than smash characters?But that is still so questionable. K. Rool was in mario sluggers, a 100% rareware created character. And so was... diddy kong... ... ... and... funky kong... *mario kart wii*, and ... all the kongs ... .
It could be that K Rool wasn't really on their minds given he hasn't had a recent appearance..
I see what you mean. All I'm saying is if the reason K. Rool won't be in smash is because of the rareware trade off AGES ago that's a silly argument to make and won't get a ton farther than outer speculation. Is all.
I was meaning on hesitation about how DK as an IP would develop because Rareware was bought out.
And Duck Hunt Dog was...? I honestly think *they* just pick and choose who *they* want.
Please don't try to justify "oh a recent importance doesn't matter at all" with a character SPECIFICALLY chosen as a retro.
A recent importance doesn't really matter. Sakurai can and will do whatever he wants when he wants, BUT that is what the Ballot is for hopefully. A chance for us to actually pick who we want. As long as the Smash Ballot isn't a Kroc then all should be well.
This basically.
Hey! If the man sees the way sakurai and crew does character selection one way let him be. He's completely entitled to believe so.
it doesnt matter how he "sees character selection" its the fact that he used an example which is specifically the exeception to the rule.
jinx, you owe me a kremkoin.Was walking through miiverse plaza when I saw some of these taped to several Mii's backs. Another major endorsement for the King! This time from the all-star from popstar.
yea but the thing with the other costumes is that those characters have already been playable in smash games. but this costume isn't just a hat or a shirt. Its the full character model looking like a inkling
Yes. He CAN chose a character at random. But all of our newcomers have a fairly recent title or are a retro. Edit: Now that I think about it... I think this rule can basically be held for the newcomers in EVERY Smash title, with
and having some of the largest gaps.: City Folk when chosen for the roster. New Leaf being released weeks before the game was announced.: Gaming ICON with last game being December 2012, with Street Fighter x Capcom.: Wii Fit U.: Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 8, Mario Galaxy 2.: Punch-Out!! Wii, honestly the "oldest" of new titles on this list.: Pokemon X/Y, was chosen from CONCEPT ART before the game was released.: Tomodachi Life. 3DS Street Plaza Titles./: Kid Icarus - Uprising, the game Sakurai was working on months before he started development on Smash 4.: Was honestly chosen as a retro, but we technically have Ghostly adventures.: Fire Emblem - Awakening: Xenoblade Chronicles: New Super Mario Bros./Luigi U.: Retro.
Just my opinion. I totally believe that relevance has nothing to do with picking a character, but it just always confused me as to why Sakurai does stuff the way he does. I just am one of those people that wants to personally ask him what his thought process is.
And this is why I am confident that King K. Rool fans are going to be rewarded in the long run. Even if King K. Rool isn't playable as DLC, there is no reason to ignore him any longer and I expect at the very least to see him return as the main antagonist of the DK franchise.
If anything, the fact that we get a second Capcom character and a fifth Fire Emblem character could indicate we're getting more than we thought we would.
So basically the argument is that King K. Rool wasn't added because he doesn't have a recent appearance yet a character who hasn't had a new game in over thirty years is good to go because of being "retro"? That's contradictory.
Simple answer. Kid Icarus gets more due to Sakurai creating the characters...same with Kirby. I love both franchises, but if a different person who didn't create their own franchises, made a game like this there would more than likely be much more *equality* so to speak.
I know you posed that last bit as a joke... but his last role as a villain was Barrel Blast.
Not contradictory because they're not the same. Duck Hunt is a retro character from a retro franchise, K Rool is a retro character from a healthy franchise. Naturally if Sakurai and co. were to look at "retro" characters they'd look at the retro franchises first and foremost, no?
I hope this is sarcasm.
How rude.
maybe.
Correction:Ok, guys. WE have a real tendency of going way off topic whenever smash related news is announced. I like that we speculate but maybe less argumentative? I'm no mod but would love to see more kindness and less showing each-other up.
True, True LOLLCorrection:
While brash in how it was pronounced, it was because your claim is flat-out incorrect.
was chosen because he embodies the Zapper as a controller medium and that is what his moveset revolves so heavily around. He was a retro chosen by hardware akin to as LCD "micro" games, as the toy he was, and for the arcade goodness of old Namco. The fact that they're a duo from the NES is all the similarity that lies between the two. They don't have anywhere near the same playstyle or true simlarity in moveset. It's a more wild claim than saying or replaced or respectively.
While brash in how it was pronounced, it was because your claim is flat-out incorrect.
I never said anything about moveset. I meant that since the Ice Climbers had to be cut, there was a need for a different NES character.
I would use the Dark King K Rool scheme in smash battles even the White Color. Also loving the new render but i'd take him either way rare or new design.I can't decide between these two. I'm pretty much throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks.
If anyone wants to see any specific colours, just tell me which to make what and I'll try my best.
going to take that advice.
