Has anyone ever seen this? We might have a new combo for us D3 mains..

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[CyberHyperPhoenix]

So it basically only intsa kills under the stage?

If it did that all the time, that would be some broke ass **** lol XD

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Heh heh.

@ IsmaR was telling me about this last night. Seems like it might be fun to **** around with, but idk if I would seriously consider using it to net wins.

Great stuff though.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Substitute]

Heh heh.

@ IsmaR was telling me about this last night. Seems like it might be fun to **** around with, but idk if I would seriously consider using it to net wins.

Great stuff though.

Smooth Criminal

Heh, Ismar helped me with this video! I think it would be fun on occasion just like swallowciding, if custom tournaments start happening more often that is.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Considering EVO's legalized them, I think that may be the case.

Can they not tech at all, I wonder?

Smooth Criminal

 

[Deleted member]

Interesting combo. Will have to try it out later.

 

[slavoslav]

I tend to pick Smashville fairly often these days in online tournaments that allow custom moves.
Dedede's neutral B custom Taste Test, when used while fast-falling next to the ledge, spits out opponents perfectly and instantly under the stage. It's absolutely beautiful. The move was tailor-made for this stage. And opposed to his regular Swallow the distance travelled of the Taste Test star is always at maximum, which is maybe a little less than half the length of the Smashville platform. Lots of characters can't recover from this. Thanks to Dedede's awesome recovery you can even keep pressuring them with a gordo or a fair if deemed necessary.

 

[toadster101]

This is a highly situational technique, but it's very satisfying if you manage to pull it off. Still, I'm not a big proponent of custom moves to begin with. Is it really worth sacrificing the utility of his other moves for some gimmicky strategy like this?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

It's not, in short, but it's an option/tactic all the same. Gotta be aware.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Ludiloco]

Can they really not tech this? Looks like there's a window where the Fox player could have but didn't.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Can they really not tech this? Looks like there's a window where the Fox player could have but didn't.

That's what I'm wondering, too.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Substitute]

This is a highly situational technique, but it's very satisfying if you manage to pull it off. Still, I'm not a big proponent of custom moves to begin with. Is it really worth sacrificing the utility of his other moves for some gimmicky strategy like this?

I'd argue that Taste Test and Rising Dedede are straight upgrades over the default moves for the King. Holding a player in when inhaled has lost it's utility due to King Dedede being killed first when swallowciding. The extra 3 percent of damage and full power blow from the inhale is amazing. Rising Dedede makes it harder to edge guard the King now when recovering back to the stage and it can also kill people pretty early if you want to risk it on stage. I think we all should support custom moves in the future for Dedede's sake and the future of the meta for Smash 4.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I'll give you Taste Test being "better" than vanilla Inhale because Regicide is kinda hollow now, but I would still take regular D3 jump over Rising Dedede. Default seems a little more well-rounded with its armored properties and horizontal movement to aid in recovery; Rising Dedede exchanges that for a non-disjointed hitbox that's great to combo into but might not be that great in the way of recovery. Can you imagine a situation off-stage where somebody trades with that? It'll more than likely not be in your favor, forcing you to waste more jumps and risk another attempt.

That's just my rationale, though. I agree that customs need to be a thing and be heavily considered in the future. Like it or not, they're likely here to stay.

Smooth Criminal

 

[IsmaR]

I personally think Quick Dedede Jump is better.

This one does have its uses, but it did in fact seem easier to gimp. Especially with windbox customs (Gust Cape riiiiiiiiiiiiip)

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Idk, Quick D3 Jump has next to no safeguards---no armor, no hitboxes, no nothing. It's literally up and away while being totally vulnerable. I think its horizontal distance is even less than that of the other two. Unless I'm not seeing something right here of course, why would you take that over the other two? It is certainly quicker, might help get you back to the stage faster.

Also, I think we should move this topic into the custom moves thread or even the moveset discussion thread. Less clutter.

Smooth Criminal

 

[dean.]

I actually pulled that combo off in my very first 3DS tournament lol... we don't have customs any more though. And I would be very surprised if there was no way to escape that.

 

[Girthquake]

I think rising dedede might be a decent mix up. I don't know how it's going to work at tourny play if you can switch your customs each match but if you find your opponent is trying to fall of back air stage spike you often when you're off the ledge this might be a good choice to mix things up with.

Other than that I dunno man. I think that a lot of the custom moves for DeDeDe are seriously lacking compared to others. They have their uses sure and taste test is without a doubt better than the standard default but that's about it. Customs have their place I think but just shoving them down evo's mouth with this kind of notice is not a good thing

 

[KeithTheGeek]

I honestly don't know if it would be worth to drop regular inhale for Taste Test. The thing is, inhale allows us to choose where and when we want to spit them out. Dedede might move slow as molasses while they're in his mouth, but at least move has some more options to it. Taste Test just seems more limited in its utility...but it might be better at doing the things it does well than Inhale is at what it does.

As far as Rising Dedede vs the regular Dedede Jump, I tend to prefer the default as well simply because you have more control over it. Not that this is a good idea or anything, but at the very least you can choose to land on stage if you want. Plus it does have that armor on it. Rising Dedede isn't terrible or anything, but if for any reason he's forced to land on a platform with it you suffer the exact same amount of end lag as the regular up b, with none of the potential (as few as they are) benefits from doing so. Maybe if Rising Dedede had significantly less landing lag I would consider it a straight upgrade.

This combo itself though makes me want to at least run those two moves in customs matches just for the possibility of getting some early kills with it.