Rhett Blank
Smash Rookie
- Joined
- Dec 19, 2017
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Most of yoshi's moves have almost no priority and are laughably easy to ignore. As a result I don't see how yoshi can control space in the neutral.
Watch PPMD zone plup off the platforms within the first four seconds of this https://youtu.be/bhkMB6Y67DA?t=56 match. Plup jumps to the right platform, ppmd covers him jumping to the center of the stage with the back of a nair. It misses. Plup then jumps to the left platform. PPMD once again covers the platform with a similiar nair and it connects with Plup at 7:57, punishing him for not respecting the space PPMD is controlling.
This type of engagement is replicated many times throughout a typical match. But, if you were to put a yoshi in a similiar position and asked him to control plup from to center stage, I don't see how Yoshi would be able to accomplish it.
The only option for Yoshi is to wait for sheik to move off the platform, giving up the space until sheik attacks so that yoshi can maneuver around it and punish with his own move. However, this is no longer zoning and can potentially give up center stage. Just throwing out a move in a similiar fashion as marth in this position accomplishes nothing because somebody like fox/falco can simply dair you out of any action.
Am I missing something? I feel the inability to control space is a giant limitation. How can a Yoshi control space with success as PPMD does in the beginning of this match?
Watch PPMD zone plup off the platforms within the first four seconds of this https://youtu.be/bhkMB6Y67DA?t=56 match. Plup jumps to the right platform, ppmd covers him jumping to the center of the stage with the back of a nair. It misses. Plup then jumps to the left platform. PPMD once again covers the platform with a similiar nair and it connects with Plup at 7:57, punishing him for not respecting the space PPMD is controlling.
This type of engagement is replicated many times throughout a typical match. But, if you were to put a yoshi in a similiar position and asked him to control plup from to center stage, I don't see how Yoshi would be able to accomplish it.
The only option for Yoshi is to wait for sheik to move off the platform, giving up the space until sheik attacks so that yoshi can maneuver around it and punish with his own move. However, this is no longer zoning and can potentially give up center stage. Just throwing out a move in a similiar fashion as marth in this position accomplishes nothing because somebody like fox/falco can simply dair you out of any action.
Am I missing something? I feel the inability to control space is a giant limitation. How can a Yoshi control space with success as PPMD does in the beginning of this match?