Meta Rosalina Match-Up Analysis R2 - Diddy Kong

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Rosalina Match-Up Analysis R2 - Diddy Kong

Welcome to the Rosalina vs. Diddy Kong match-up analysis thread. This thread will be used to analyze Rosalina's match-up against Diddy Kong. For all the rules on the round 2 match-up discussions, please refer to the directory thread.

Last Updated: 7/5/2015

Special Moves Allowed| |
Default only | | ±0
Default + Custom | | +1

Spoiler: Score Inputs

Default only
mario123007: -1
shane3x: +1

Default + Custom
shane3x: +1

 

[ParanoidDrone]

I have not even the slightest clue who has the advantage after Diddy's nerfs, but I do think Guardian Luma is the better down special option for this matchup. Bananas count as items and are still pulled in while peanuts aren't really threatening enough to worry about IMO. (You can also pick them up with good timing so maybe they're items too? Need to test, but I'm away from my game for a few days.)

 

[JaggedToaster]

I have not even the slightest clue who has the advantage after Diddy's nerfs, but I do think Guardian Luma is the better down special option for this matchup. Bananas count as items and are still pulled in while peanuts aren't really threatening enough to worry about IMO. (You can also pick them up with good timing so maybe they're items too? Need to test, but I'm away from my game for a few days.)

I'm positive peanuts can be pulled in.

 

[mario123007]

Default
Diddy Kong
Pros

• Fast ground and air attacks, Smash attacks have a powerful launch power too.
• Has quite an impressive attack range
• Bananas can be an item to trip opponents, and peanut can stung opponents as well
• A quite fair backthrow

Cons

• Recovery is a bit hard to control. Easily get stage spiked.
• The Hoohah move has been nerfed, hard to say it's a fast ko move now.

Rosalina & Luma
Pros

• With Luma, it can be easy to pressure Diddy with consistent jab.
• More advantage when it comes to edguarding.

Cons

• Attacks are slow, easily get juggle by Diddy.
• Slower movements than Diddy.

I think Rosalina a bit slightly disadvantage, but a lot better compare to old patch.
-1

 

[DisidisiD]

I'm positive peanuts can be pulled in.

You are right. The only thing you might want GP for is the rocket pack if it goes flying off.

 

[shane3x]

I assume 1.0.8 would warrant a review of this.

 

[mario123007]

I assume 1.0.8 would warrant a review of this.

Did Diddy got more nerfs on 1.0.8 patch?

 

[shane3x]

Did Diddy got more nerfs on 1.0.8 patch?

For Diddy:

• Up Air
  • Start up increased 3 → 4 frames without animation changes (no longer hits below him)
  • Auto cancel altered from 15 → 27 frames
  • Base/Growth 65/99 → 100/89
• Up Throw Damage reduced 8% → 5%
• Down Throw Damage increased 6% → 7%
• Down Tilt Damage reduced 6% → 5.5%
• Jab Transition between third strike and multihit is now faster Grabs Ending frames increased (on all three)

For Rosa:

• Luma HP 47 → 50
• Rapid Jab End Knockback Growth Reduced 170 → 150

 

[mario123007]

For Diddy:

• Up Air
  • Start up increased 3 → 4 frames without animation changes (no longer hits below him)
  • Auto cancel altered from 15 → 27 frames
  • Base/Growth 65/99 → 100/89
• Up Throw Damage reduced 8% → 5%
• Down Throw Damage increased 6% → 7%
• Down Tilt Damage reduced 6% → 5.5%
• Jab Transition between third strike and multihit is now faster Grabs Ending frames increased (on all three)

For Rosa:

• Luma HP 47 → 50
• Rapid Jab End Knockback Growth Reduced 170 → 150

So both Diddy and Rosalina have nerfs and buffs.

 

[shane3x]

So both Diddy and Rosalina have nerfs and buffs.

Rosalina I would say got a relatively minor nerf and her buff has almost restored Luma's HP to was it was at launch, while Diddy's essentially taken quite a few blows.

 

[mario123007]

Rosalina I would say got a relatively minor nerf and her buff has almost restored Luma's HP to was it was at launch, while Diddy's essentially taken quite a few blows.

So it may take time to know which has advantage.

 

[shane3x]

Before any of the Diddy nerfs I'd say Diddy had a slight advantage, after the first nerf it would be even. Now? I'd have to through it a +1 in favour of Rosa. Luma is back to almost prepatch health which means Diddy has to do more to get rid of it and with one of his major aerial attacks nerfed out of the park he has to resort to other moves which dont have the kill power up air did.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Before any of the Diddy nerfs I'd say Diddy had a slight advantage, after the first nerf it would be even. Now? I'd have to through it a +1 in favour of Rosa. Luma is back to almost prepatch health which means Diddy has to do more to get rid of it and with one of his major aerial attacks nerfed out of the park he has to resort to other moves which dont have the kill power up air did.

Is this for the default only setting?

 

[shane3x]

Is this for the default only setting?

Oh yes sorry. Default is +1.

I'd also have to throw a +1 Rosa's way in the custom matchup. Shooting star bit is amazing at forcing diddy to you from the air, in which you can see when Diddy is coming and respond with her long range moves like Up tilt, Up smash or if diddy jumps too high up air.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Diddy Kong is being analyzed again for this week. If you have anything to contribute for the match-up, especially in regards to the newest software update, this is the place to do it.